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The 'fans' behind the goal vs Welling

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  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,232
    ValleyGary said:

    It was probably a load of local shits with nothing better to do on Saturday. I bet only a couple were even Charlton 'fans' and the rest supported other clubs. Can't even afford to get too and into the valley on a Saturday so won't even see them this year. Wouldn't worry about it.

    except that they bought flares before the game so quite deliberate
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,232
    ValleyGary said:

    I'm glad there's not been an overreaction to the whole thing

    glad you like understatement.

    The first pitch invader was captured on the game video.

    Hope he's banned from the Valley.

    Throwing flares or smoke bombs is a criminal act and, if convicted, could result in a big fine or jail and will affect employment prospects.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,850
    Crusty54 said:

    ValleyGary said:

    I'm glad there's not been an overreaction to the whole thing

    glad you like understatement.

    The first pitch invader was captured on the game video.

    Hope he's banned from the Valley.

    Throwing flares or smoke bombs is a criminal act and, if convicted, could result in a big fine or jail and will affect employment prospects.
    Wow
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Off_it said:

    What flares?

    Seriously. Do people not understand the difference between a flare and a smoke bomb?

    To me theres a whole world of difference. Both will hurt if they hit you on the head, but they "work" in totally different ways.

    I wouldn't say a whole world of difference.

    More like comparing a dildo with a vibrator. Or so I've been told.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,227
    Addickted said:

    Off_it said:

    What flares?

    Seriously. Do people not understand the difference between a flare and a smoke bomb?

    To me theres a whole world of difference. Both will hurt if they hit you on the head, but they "work" in totally different ways.

    I wouldn't say a whole world of difference.

    More like comparing a dildo with a vibrator. Or so I've been told.
    Never liked the Vibrators but I thought Dildos first album was good and I liked that collaboration she did with Eminen.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    What?

    Pure Mania was the archetypal Punk album. Ira Robbins described the album as a "treasure trove of memorable ditties".
  • Isawsummersplay
    Isawsummersplay Posts: 1,428
    edited July 2016
    In my view, club employees should not post on social media. Frustrating as this may be for them, I'm afraid this goes with the territory, particularly as players are free to say what they like when they like.
  • waldo
    waldo Posts: 495
    Henry Irving said:

    Addickted said:

    CAFCOlly said:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=bnvOt7A8jd4

    I knew I recognised them from somewhere.

    Is it just me, but why do so many white kids in London talk like they're the 'Windrush generation'
    Adopting outsider language for status.

    Yes, I've been helping my son with his English Language A Level revision.
    But then you have an English degree. degree
  • rikofold
    rikofold Posts: 4,051
    Henry Irving said:

    Isawsummersplay said:

    In my view, club employees should not post on social media. Frustrating as this may be for them, I'm afraid this goes with the territory, particularly as players are free to say what they like when they like.

    Disagree. I think that they provide interesting and useful information and clarification especially in these unique times.

    What we need is more two way communication not less and I think Olly and Mick walk a very thin line very well in order to do that despite what must be the strong temptation to react to some of the nasty and mindless abuse they receive.

    Spot on Henry.
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  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,149
    Did the smoke bombs /anti regime singing / goons on the pitch help the team , hinder the team or make no difference whatsoever but get the back up of the apologists who are still trying to blame football performances on the fans
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,792
    Henry Irving said:

    altrinchamaddick said:

    My concern with flares and pitch invasions by individuals. and chanting anti regime songs at a pre-season friendly is that it will continue into the season, because the mantra of wanting the Belgiums out is now so ingrained into the mentality of a lot of Charlton supporters. The theme of support the team, not the regime is clearly not working. The chanting of we want Roland out, and other less savory songs against the regime during the game is NOT supporting the team. Players will be affected by such behaviour. The only way to support the team is to sing songs supporting the team, throughout the game. Any other songs about the regime should be saved for the West Stand carpark, before and after the game.

    I would like to see all anti-regime chanting to stop within the game, only then could Charlton fans say we support the team and not the regime.

    Clearly you're wrong as the chants happened and yet we won 4 - 1.

    So either the chants help the players or what is more likely they have no impact on results either way.

    If you don't like the protest, or if you do, then fine but don't hide behind "it affects the players" because all the evidence say no it doesn't.
    Come on, Henry, you know that without the chants we'd have won 8-1.
  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,039
    Henry Irving said:

    Isawsummersplay said:

    In my view, club employees should not post on social media. Frustrating as this may be for them, I'm afraid this goes with the territory, particularly as players are free to say what they like when they like.

    Disagree. I think that they provide interesting and useful information and clarification especially in these unique times.

    What we need is more two way communication not less and I think Olly and Mick walk a very thin line very well in order to do that despite what must be the strong temptation to react to some of the nasty and mindless abuse they receive.

    It's a real Catch 22 isn't it. If you work for the club and do your job well you can't avoid supporting Duchatelet. Which makes any communication you make as a fan suspect.
    Glad I don't have to square that circle.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,792
    Baldybonce said:

    blackpool72 said:

    Fuck me we are divided. Don't know where this will end
    And don't say when the regime leaves couse it could take fuckin years

    It would be a bloody dull forum if everyone agreed all the time.
    Oh no it wouldn't.
  • charltonkeston
    charltonkeston Posts: 7,365
    altrinchamaddick said:

    My concern with flares and pitch invasions by individuals. and chanting anti regime songs at a pre-season friendly is that it will continue into the season, because the mantra of wanting the Belgiums out is now so ingrained into the mentality of a lot of Charlton supporters. The theme of support the team, not the regime is clearly not working. The chanting of we want Roland out, and other less savory songs against the regime during the game is NOT supporting the team. Players will be affected by such behaviour. The only way to support the team is to sing songs supporting the team, throughout the game. Any other songs about the regime should be saved for the West Stand carpark, before and after the game.

    I would like to see all anti-regime chanting to stop within the game, only then could Charlton fans say we support the team and not the regime.

    Posting without reading the many pages on this thread.

    Just a thought here, maybe the players are on our side wanting this regime gone as well as a lot of us.
    Roland and co have given them a relegation on their cv's and probably effected their careers and earnings now and in the future.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Off_it said:

    Crusty54 said:

    ValleyGary said:

    I'm glad there's not been an overreaction to the whole thing

    glad you like understatement.

    The first pitch invader was captured on the game video.

    Hope he's banned from the Valley.

    Throwing flares or smoke bombs is a criminal act and, if convicted, could result in a big fine or jail and will affect employment prospects.
    Wow
    Ditto.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    Ollywozere said:

    Bexleyheath_Red said:

    BartleyPark said:

    Ollywozere said:

    Not to mention the guy who picked up our GoPro camera from inside the goal and tried shoving it in his bag. Luckily our camerman apprehended him.
    Embarassed by a lot of what went on today.

    As a professional I understand why you don't post criticism of the idiots running our club, on this site but you're pretty quick to jump on, as a fan, to criticise fellow supporters.
    Olly sides with the regime. Understand that as his employed by them. But smarmy comments and being over critical of fans support has been noticed. I'd steer clear of commenting on fans in the future.
    My comments regarding today were as a lifelong supporter and as somebody who has gone to pretty much every one of these Welling fixtures over the last decade. Whether I worked for the club or not, I was embarrassed by what I saw and I expressed that opinion.

    Not sure about smarmy, but I'll agree I criticised a section of our support last season when they jeered and cheered a certain player's substitution, as did many others, and I stand by that, once again, as a supporter.
    Past that, I'm not sure when else I've been over critical?
    Indeed, I praised our support countless times via social media last season and will always do so.

    I do understand that any comment I make on here or on social media will come under scrutiny or even get people's backs up and I get that it might be hard for people to seperate the employee from the fan, particularly at times like these.

    With that in mind, I'll try my best to stick to business on here. I don't ever, nor would I ever wish to wind anybody up. There's enough squabbling going on around here as it is!


    As a lifelong supporter what do you make of how the club has been run for the last two years?
  • Essex_Al
    Essex_Al Posts: 3,582
    charltonkeston said:

    altrinchamaddick said:

    My concern with flares and pitch invasions by individuals. and chanting anti regime songs at a pre-season friendly is that it will continue into the season, because the mantra of wanting the Belgiums out is now so ingrained into the mentality of a lot of Charlton supporters. The theme of support the team, not the regime is clearly not working. The chanting of we want Roland out, and other less savory songs against the regime during the game is NOT supporting the team. Players will be affected by such behaviour. The only way to support the team is to sing songs supporting the team, throughout the game. Any other songs about the regime should be saved for the West Stand carpark, before and after the game.

    I would like to see all anti-regime chanting to stop within the game, only then could Charlton fans say we support the team and not the regime.

    Posting without reading the many pages on this thread.

    Just a thought here, maybe the players are on our side wanting this regime gone as well as a lot of us.
    Roland and co have given them a relegation on their cv's and probably effected their careers and earnings now and in the future.
    I've heard it all now!

    Ffs!
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,149
    No way , that relegation didn't happen , I'm not having it , it was the protestors fault
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  • tom_k
    tom_k Posts: 1,207
    Flares or smoke bombs and a pitch invasion at Welling makes us look like the Nigels.

    These culprits should be banned for that alone.
  • CyrilDavies
    CyrilDavies Posts: 855
    Essex_Al said:

    charltonkeston said:

    altrinchamaddick said:

    My concern with flares and pitch invasions by individuals. and chanting anti regime songs at a pre-season friendly is that it will continue into the season, because the mantra of wanting the Belgiums out is now so ingrained into the mentality of a lot of Charlton supporters. The theme of support the team, not the regime is clearly not working. The chanting of we want Roland out, and other less savory songs against the regime during the game is NOT supporting the team. Players will be affected by such behaviour. The only way to support the team is to sing songs supporting the team, throughout the game. Any other songs about the regime should be saved for the West Stand carpark, before and after the game.

    I would like to see all anti-regime chanting to stop within the game, only then could Charlton fans say we support the team and not the regime.

    Posting without reading the many pages on this thread.

    Just a thought here, maybe the players are on our side wanting this regime gone as well as a lot of us.
    Roland and co have given them a relegation on their cv's and probably effected their careers and earnings now and in the future.
    I've heard it all now!

    Ffs!
    What!!!!. Relegation and they are off...only the supporters that care or the likes of those players with a strong affinity to the club..
    perhaps that's why Bergdich stayed at home!.
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,232
    edited July 2016
    AFKABartram said:

    Well having had a quick social media round up, many congratulations to CARD yesterday with their unbelievably lifelike disguises as 12 year old boys.

    You think those are good, wait to you see the thousands of red seat disguises CARD apparently have planned for this season.

    the first pitch invader was much older than 12.

    I paid to watch a game of football not idiots wrecking the afternoon. BTW cans were also thrown at the Welling goalkeeper.

    If you don't like a new manager putting out a very much British Isles team stay away from the club and work to find a new buyer who has real money to buy it.

    Getting punishment from the Football League for match disruption does not help the cause.

    CARD needs to be positive not negative.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,156
    This thread seems to be a good way of identifying who used to be pwopa naughty when they were younger...
  • East_Stand_Loopy
    East_Stand_Loopy Posts: 2,205
    guinnessaddick said:

    Welling has seen it before.

    Still the best bit of football banter EVER...
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    Crusty54 said:

    AFKABartram said:

    Well having had a quick social media round up, many congratulations to CARD yesterday with their unbelievably lifelike disguises as 12 year old boys.

    You think those are good, wait to you see the thousands of red seat disguises CARD apparently have planned for this season.

    the first pitch invader was much older than 12.

    I paid to watch a game of football not idiots wrecking the afternoon. BTW cans were also thrown at the Welling goalkeeper.

    If you don't like a new manager putting out a very much British Isles team stay away from the club and work to find a new buyer who has real money to buy it.

    Getting punishment from the Football League for match disruption does not help the cause.

    CARD needs to be positive not negative.
    "Wrecking the afternoon"
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,982
    Crusty54 said:

    ValleyGary said:

    It was probably a load of local shits with nothing better to do on Saturday. I bet only a couple were even Charlton 'fans' and the rest supported other clubs. Can't even afford to get too and into the valley on a Saturday so won't even see them this year. Wouldn't worry about it.

    except that they bought flares before the game so quite deliberate
    Yeah I bet they held meetings in their tree house for months to go too all the meticulous plannig. Surprised Mi5 didn't act sooner to stop it.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited July 2016
    Henry Irving said:

    Isawsummersplay said:

    In my view, club employees should not post on social media. Frustrating as this may be for them, I'm afraid this goes with the territory, particularly as players are free to say what they like when they like.

    Disagree. I think that they provide interesting and useful information and clarification especially in these unique times.

    What we need is more two way communication not less and I think Olly and Mick walk a very thin line very well in order to do that despite what must be the strong temptation to react to some of the nasty and mindless abuse they receive.

    And indeed the mindless behaviour of the people above them.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,227
    Airman Brown said:

    Henry Irving said:

    Isawsummersplay said:

    In my view, club employees should not post on social media. Frustrating as this may be for them, I'm afraid this goes with the territory, particularly as players are free to say what they like when they like.

    Disagree. I think that they provide interesting and useful information and clarification especially in these unique times.

    What we need is more two way communication not less and I think Olly and Mick walk a very thin line very well in order to do that despite what must be the strong temptation to react to some of the nasty and mindless abuse they receive.

    And indeed the mindless behaviour of the people above them.
    You can say that, they couldn't possibly comment

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