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RD's remaining business plan for Charlton?

hoof_it_up_to_benty
hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,449
in General Charlton
Any idea what it is? The only plan in evidence seems to be constant cost cutting and little or no investment in the playing squad.
The losses seem guaranteed to continue and I can't see any way he can recoup them. He and KM have no interest in building a successful team and it just continues to be like watching a slow motion car crash.
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  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,285
    I fear he has this naïve thought we can get promoted fairly easily and his original plan will be back in place.
  • HarryLime
    HarryLime Posts: 1,295
    There is no plan, none of this makes any sense. I fear we a part of some kind of long running reality comic docu-drama played out weekly on Belgian prime time tv. We’ve probably got to wait until the rating figures go down and the series is cancelled.
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    I think our thin squad shows we are due half a dozen foreign nobodys any day soon.
  • Gumbo
    Gumbo Posts: 957
    It simply to piss off as many "customers" as you can, hes half way though his 5 year plan and I'm guessing hes on target
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
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  • BartleyPark
    BartleyPark Posts: 430
    "Hi, is that Katrien?"

    "I'll give you 50% off"

    "...I...I haven't said anything yet"
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    BartleyPark said:

    "Hi, is that Katrien?"

    "I'll give you 50% off"

    "...I...I haven't said anything yet"

    That's because she thought it was 50% off her nose.
  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,620
    Its the same plan that Boris Johnson has as Foreign Secretary.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Something like this.

    Roland's aim
    To show football clubs can break even yet remain competitive.

    Katrien's target is to work towards this each season.

    Katrien's KPIs - these have to improve year on year

    - Income from player sales.
    - Academy players in first team.
    - Crowds (eventually of 20k...!). This includes attracting more casual fans who come for a fun day out. This way they believe you maximise income and improve atmosphere (as these fans aren't bothered about poor results).
    - Replace sold players with academy and cheap players who will develop into players to be sold on in the future.

    KM has complete freedom to spend money on new ideas to attract fans such as new mascots, sex on the pitch advertisements, electronic turnstiles, new ticket strategies etc. She particularly enjoys developing her own novelty ideas such as the sofa and house music in the bar.

    Not much more to it other than they've moved away from network and European head coaches and signings.

    Can't be far off.
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  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    His latest plan is to bring in Baldrick who will advise Katrien
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    Johnnysummers5 said:

    His latest plan is to bring in Baldrick who will advise Katrien

    And I don't mean Airman Brown
  • Nug
    Nug Posts: 4,623
    edited July 2016
    DOUCHER said:

    Overall aim seems ok minus the gimmicks - hopefully now we have a new strategy hence a proper manager it might have more chance of working

    2-4-6-8 who do we appreciate....ROLAND!

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  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited July 2016
    DOUCHER said:

    Overall aim seems ok minus the gimmicks - hopefully now we have a new strategy hence a proper manager it might have more chance of working

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  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,699
    DOUCHER said:

    Overall aim seems ok minus the gimmicks - hopefully now we have a new strategy hence a proper manager it might have more chance of working

    Shouldn't this be in the joke category.

  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,900
    Nug said:

    DOUCHER said:

    Overall aim seems ok minus the gimmicks - hopefully now we have a new strategy hence a proper manager it might have more chance of working

    2-4-6-8 who do we appreciate....ROLAND!

    image
    you are boring nugget - if you went back pre roland - and before your fixation with his network and his evil ways and all the rest of it took hold wouldn't u have wanted a club that didn't spend beyond its means, had a strong academy and had a good proportion of home gtrown players in its first team - putting all the misguided way they have gone about it to one side - if you can for a moment - would those things not be what you would want? or do you want to be reliant on a sugar daddy or have a brief spell in the prem and be a whipping boy for the really big fish fora year or so? go on, be honest - rd and his team are on their way out, their strategy has failed but the goal is not a bad one is it or do you expect somebody to put there hand in their pocket evbery year to sustain the club and if so, who is that charitable person?

  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    DOUCHER said:

    Nug said:

    DOUCHER said:

    Overall aim seems ok minus the gimmicks - hopefully now we have a new strategy hence a proper manager it might have more chance of working

    2-4-6-8 who do we appreciate....ROLAND!

    image
    you are boring nugget - if you went back pre roland - and before your fixation with his network and his evil ways and all the rest of it took hold wouldn't u have wanted a club that didn't spend beyond its means, had a strong academy and had a good proportion of home gtrown players in its first team - putting all the misguided way they have gone about it to one side - if you can for a moment - would those things not be what you would want? or do you want to be reliant on a sugar daddy or have a brief spell in the prem and be a whipping boy for the really big fish fora year or so? go on, be honest - rd and his team are on their way out, their strategy has failed but the goal is not a bad one is it or do you expect somebody to put there hand in their pocket evbery year to sustain the club and if so, who is that charitable person?

    The goal is a bad one, because it is not achieveable.

    Goals should be "SMART".

    Specific, measureable, achieveable, realistic, time bound. IIRC.

    RD's "goal" fails on all 5 measures, so their "goal" is bad.

  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,900
    says who - a management book? r u saying it is impossible not to lose money every year in football? cobblers



  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    You can get promoted to the Premier League! That brings a profit. You can downsize so you are so small, that your costs are minimal, but Charlton are a certain size of club that can't be viable where they are.
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  • FORD
    FORD Posts: 627
    His plan is to sell up and take KM with him. End of, no other option.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,900
    palace pretty much got promoted to the prem on the strength of selling an academy player and loaning him back - we need to produce players of that quality more often - other than defoe, who was nicked from us - when did we last produce a striker of any note? 2 centre mids yes - parker and bowyer - but both moved on to bigger clubs but in 30 years they are the only 2 we have got really decent money for so i'm all for the academy plans, just don't like all the rest of it
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,621
    DOUCHER said:

    palace pretty much got promoted to the prem on the strength of selling an academy player and loaning him back - we need to produce players of that quality more often - other than defoe, who was nicked from us - when did we last produce a striker of any note? 2 centre mids yes - parker and bowyer - but both moved on to bigger clubs but in 30 years they are the only 2 we have got really decent money for so i'm all for the academy plans, just don't like all the rest of it

    Palace got promoted on the back of having a manager who got that little bit extra out of his team that was just enough to see them scrape into the PL
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    DOUCHER said:

    palace pretty much got promoted to the prem on the strength of selling an academy player and loaning him back - we need to produce players of that quality more often - other than defoe, who was nicked from us - when did we last produce a striker of any note? 2 centre mids yes - parker and bowyer - but both moved on to bigger clubs but in 30 years they are the only 2 we have got really decent money for so i'm all for the academy plans, just don't like all the rest of it

    We may have in Lookman, but we won't get anywhere near what Palace got! Part of the reason for that is where we are and how badly we are run. If you think they are competent, good luck to you. I think that notion can only be a wind up!
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,900
    letthegoodtimesroll said:

    DOUCHER said:

    palace pretty much got promoted to the prem on the strength of selling an academy player and loaning him back - we need to produce players of that quality more often - other than defoe, who was nicked from us - when did we last produce a striker of any note? 2 centre mids yes - parker and bowyer - but both moved on to bigger clubs but in 30 years they are the only 2 we have got really decent money for so i'm all for the academy plans, just don't like all the rest of it

    Palace got promoted on the back of having a manager who got that little bit extra out of his team that was just enough to see them scrape into the PL
    is that the same manager that relegated millwall? Anyway, point is - manager and funds from academy sale
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,900
    DOUCHER said:

    letthegoodtimesroll said:

    DOUCHER said:

    palace pretty much got promoted to the prem on the strength of selling an academy player and loaning him back - we need to produce players of that quality more often - other than defoe, who was nicked from us - when did we last produce a striker of any note? 2 centre mids yes - parker and bowyer - but both moved on to bigger clubs but in 30 years they are the only 2 we have got really decent money for so i'm all for the academy plans, just don't like all the rest of it

    Palace got promoted on the back of having a manager who got that little bit extra out of his team that was just enough to see them scrape into the PL
    is that the same manager that relegated millwall? Anyway, point is - manager and funds from academy sale
    or was that pullis - anyway - zaha funds and loan back tipped it
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,568
    DOUCHER said:

    palace pretty much got promoted to the prem on the strength of selling an academy player and loaning him back - we need to produce players of that quality more often - other than defoe, who was nicked from us - when did we last produce a striker of any note? 2 centre mids yes - parker and bowyer - but both moved on to bigger clubs but in 30 years they are the only 2 we have got really decent money for so i'm all for the academy plans, just don't like all the rest of it

    We won't keep anyone with quality for long enough to make a decent bit of profit off of them. Out the door at the first sniff of money.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,900
    moutuakilla said:

    DOUCHER said:

    palace pretty much got promoted to the prem on the strength of selling an academy player and loaning him back - we need to produce players of that quality more often - other than defoe, who was nicked from us - when did we last produce a striker of any note? 2 centre mids yes - parker and bowyer - but both moved on to bigger clubs but in 30 years they are the only 2 we have got really decent money for so i'm all for the academy plans, just don't like all the rest of it

    We won't keep anyone with quality for long enough to make a decent bit of profit off of them. Out the door at the first sniff of money.
    didnt say we would - i am looking objectively at the aim / goal - not this regime
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,568
    DOUCHER said:

    moutuakilla said:

    DOUCHER said:

    palace pretty much got promoted to the prem on the strength of selling an academy player and loaning him back - we need to produce players of that quality more often - other than defoe, who was nicked from us - when did we last produce a striker of any note? 2 centre mids yes - parker and bowyer - but both moved on to bigger clubs but in 30 years they are the only 2 we have got really decent money for so i'm all for the academy plans, just don't like all the rest of it

    We won't keep anyone with quality for long enough to make a decent bit of profit off of them. Out the door at the first sniff of money.
    didnt say we would - i am looking objectively at the aim / goal - not this regime
    Was it cleared up whether Standard got the sell on clause for batshuayi or if RD took it? I don't know the answer as I missed if that ever got cleared up.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,024
    DOUCHER said:

    letthegoodtimesroll said:

    DOUCHER said:

    palace pretty much got promoted to the prem on the strength of selling an academy player and loaning him back - we need to produce players of that quality more often - other than defoe, who was nicked from us - when did we last produce a striker of any note? 2 centre mids yes - parker and bowyer - but both moved on to bigger clubs but in 30 years they are the only 2 we have got really decent money for so i'm all for the academy plans, just don't like all the rest of it

    Palace got promoted on the back of having a manager who got that little bit extra out of his team that was just enough to see them scrape into the PL
    is that the same manager that relegated millwall? Anyway, point is - manager and funds from academy sale
    To get those decent player Sales you need a good source of players (our source is about to dry up as people see the club for what is). You also need decent negotiators unlike the joker in charge of these matters at Charlton. Do let me know when we get that £10m fee won't you.

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