Trying to think if it was sensible of them to do it that way or whether they should have the other way round
A lot of factors in that, including, presumably, finance. I'm not one who thinks Roland is in this for a quick buck, but most clubs will need to understand their budget for the upcoming year, and then plan accordingly. Cousins and JBG should not have been a surprise to the club. I get the impression they wanted to hold on to Pope.
At the start of the summer I expected that Kashi, Bauer, and Tex would all be on their way out as well. Given injuries for the first two, I'm not sure it will happen now, though for Bauer it might be a loan with a view to buy toward the end of the window when he's fit. As for Tex, I think it's pretty clear that, unfortunately, he wants to go and doesn't want to play League One football.
For me, the real mark of incompetence will be if we don't have 2-3 lined up already and have them in the door within the next week. We're now playing catch-up, which again, should have been expected.
Either the money for risking frost bite and trench foot on Burnley's bench is unturndownable or life at Sparrows Lane and Floyd Road is properly miserable. Nick's chosen league cup appearances and hoping that Tom Heaton gets injured over being first choice and proving exactly how good he can be. The experience gained from playing regularly would be invaluable for such a young goalie. Good luck Nick, hope your decision works well for you.
Either the money for risking frost bite and trench foot on Burnley's bench is unturndownable or life at Sparrows Lane and Floyd Road is properly miserable. Nick's chosen league cup appearances and hoping that Tom Heaton gets injured over being first choice and proving exactly how good he can be. The experience gained from playing regularly would be invaluable for such a young goalie. Good luck Nick, hope your decision works well for you.
The money must play a significant part, 3 or 4 times his current salary (at a wild guess) is hard to turn down, and all it takes is Heaton to get injury, and he'll be playing in the PL
Sarr loan Vetokele loan 3 transfered one missing X amount injured
all going well so far
Watt loan (seemingly to Hearts) imminent too. Injuries will be high as well this season as a back lash of last season's work and lack of professional training/constant changing of style of play - it taxes the body.
Buy first - get some ST sales by saying all is well and let the money be hit onto us for promotion - then sell all that is good. And people still fall for RD when he tries to soften you up, a tiger's stripes don't change.
Sarr loan Vetokele loan 3 transfered one missing X amount injured
all going well so far
Watt loan (seemingly to Hearts) imminent too. Injuries will be high as well this season as a back lash of last season's work and lack of professional training/constant changing of style of play - it taxes the body.
Buy first - get some ST sales by saying all is well and let the money be hit onto us for promotion - then sell all that is good. And people still fall for RD when he tries to soften you up, a tiger's stripes don't change.
I think the timing is more coincidence really, the players who have gone (other than perhaps Pope) are ones that the majority of supporters would have expected to leave. I doubt anyone would have renewed expecting to see JBG and Cousins next season!
Why is it always an 'undisclosed' fee these days? Is it the same case in other clubs?
I've always felt that its because clubs dont want their rivals to know how much money we've got.
i.e. If we released information which said that Pope was sold for £1m and then went to sign the Accrington goalkeeper for £10k, the Accrington response could instantly be: Piss off, we know you've just got £1m so can stump up a lot more cash than that!!
Why is it always an 'undisclosed' fee these days? Is it the same case in other clubs?
I've always felt that its because clubs dont want their rivals to know how much money we've got.
i.e. If we released information which said that Pope was sold for £1m and then went to sign the Accrington goalkeeper for £10k, the Accrington response could instantly be: Piss off, we know you've just got £1m so can stump up a lot more cash than that!!
Sure there's some truth in that, but it wasn't the case with Gomez last year.
Liverpool: "we paid about £3m for Joe Gomez". Charlton: "we sold Joe Gomez for an undisclosed fee, but don't listen to the scousers, it was loads more than £3m."
As long as we got a decent price for Pope, I'm fairly glad that he's been sold. Myself and my lad always used to call him 'Soap-on-a-rope' Pope because he never filled us full of confidence. He always seemed a bit lightweight.
Though he did make a couple of fine saves last season.
Best of luck to him. Could've been our best keeper since Deano if we weren't a shambles.
Sorry what? I'm annoyed he's gone and obviously annoyed by the manner at which he's left but best keeper since Deano? Are we talking about the same keeper who continually spilt free kicks and used to chuck them in for fun?!
Like many of our departures the last couple of years, while I'm not desperately upset to see him go (though he's definitely improved a lot and would be good at L1 level) the problem is that I have no confidence he'll be adequately replaced...
Best of luck to him. Could've been our best keeper since Deano if we weren't a shambles.
Sorry what? I'm annoyed he's gone and obviously annoyed by the manner at which he's left but best keeper since Deano? Are we talking about the same keeper who continually spilt free kicks and used to chuck them in for fun?!
Could've been ie with a year or two more growth. He will be a PL regular very very soon IMO.
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Trying to think if it was sensible of them to do it that way or whether they should have the other way round
Vetokele loan
3 transfered
one missing
X amount injured
all going well so far
At the start of the summer I expected that Kashi, Bauer, and Tex would all be on their way out as well. Given injuries for the first two, I'm not sure it will happen now, though for Bauer it might be a loan with a view to buy toward the end of the window when he's fit. As for Tex, I think it's pretty clear that, unfortunately, he wants to go and doesn't want to play League One football.
For me, the real mark of incompetence will be if we don't have 2-3 lined up already and have them in the door within the next week. We're now playing catch-up, which again, should have been expected.
Good luck Nick, hope your decision works well for you.
Buy first - get some ST sales by saying all is well and let the money be hit onto us for promotion - then sell all that is good. And people still fall for RD when he tries to soften you up, a tiger's stripes don't change.
Thanks Katrien, I'm really enjoying this unique experience.
i.e. If we released information which said that Pope was sold for £1m and then went to sign the Accrington goalkeeper for £10k, the Accrington response could instantly be: Piss off, we know you've just got £1m so can stump up a lot more cash than that!!
Liverpool: "we paid about £3m for Joe Gomez".
Charlton: "we sold Joe Gomez for an undisclosed fee, but don't listen to the scousers, it was loads more than £3m."
Though he did make a couple of fine saves last season.
As far as promotion is concerned we haven't got a prayer now
Good luck Nicky.