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How much does staging a game at the Valley cost the club?

CAFCTrev
CAFCTrev Posts: 5,978
in General Charlton
With crowds now a fraction of what they were 10 years ago, if we have another poor season (likely given the squad) could RD decide there is no point in having all 4 stands open for league games because of the cost?

Are there FL rules that require you to have all of your stands open even if they are sparsely populated?

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  • Atletico Addick
    Atletico Addick Posts: 5,843
    Already part of their thinking. They ideally would like to shut North Upper (shows how much they really care) and I believe parts of others.

    Sad state of affairs, there's something quite eerie about any part of our Valley being closed for any proper Charlton match. Something needs to change and it's not in the stands that are open.
  • SheffieldRed
    SheffieldRed Posts: 3,772

    Yes

    No, Leeds closed a ~8000 seat section.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    The savings from closing stands are marginal and always likely to be offset by lost season ticket holders. Closing a stand doesn't affect the police bill, street cleaning or traffic management arrangements, which are significant costs.
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,978
    Bradford is another team with a big ground at our level, but as far I know they havent closed stands down even at their worst times.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,812
    Bradford have still got something like 16,000 ST holders
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I have it on good authority that whilst Roland may be ambivalent about income, he is obsessed with cutting costs.
    I would like to think that any games I attend next season will cost Roland more than he planned for. I intend to get my money's worth as an individual.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,223
    Airman Brown said:

    The savings from closing stands are marginal and always likely to be offset by lost season ticket holders. Closing a stand doesn't affect the police bill, street cleaning or traffic management arrangements, which are significant costs.

    Would also complicate the arrangement with the Caterers Deleware North although I think that relationship is going too well anyway.

    If they could save a quid by closing a stand they would look into it and do it.

    But even they would be embarrassed to have an empty East Stand, for example, for a league game surely?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited July 2016
    Henry Irving said:

    Airman Brown said:

    The savings from closing stands are marginal and always likely to be offset by lost season ticket holders. Closing a stand doesn't affect the police bill, street cleaning or traffic management arrangements, which are significant costs.

    Would also complicate the arrangement with the Caterers Deleware North although I think that relationship is going too well anyway.

    If they could save a quid by closing a stand they would look into it and do it.

    But even they would be embarrassed to have an empty East Stand, for example, for a league game surely?
    About 900 season ticket holders in there even now. I think they'd lose a big chunk of those if they shut the stand as it's a pretty clear signal of hopelessness.

    Upper west most likely but that entails other problems.
  • Bigbadbozman
    Bigbadbozman Posts: 1,775
    Elthamaddick said:

    Bradford have still got something like 16,000 ST holders

    I see them quite a lot the ground is generally pretty full. They do a lot of incentive work for the fans to get them to keep renewing. The in laws have had st's for years. As an example of how they treat their fans.. A couple of seasons ago they played Chelsea in the FA cup the in laws couldn't get tickets because of the way BCFC put them up for sale, father in law emailed the club explaining that they had attended all cup matches home & away for 2/3 seasons previously. He got a swift reply from their CEO who invited to meet with them in his office and when there gave him 2 tickets gratis and gave them a full apology!!! That is customer service and how to build relationships with your fans.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I think we can learn a lot from the way Bradford City have tried to sustain attendances.
    The Gods of Football decided to reward the club by creating the greatest cup upset of all time.
    Nothing can take away from the Bradford fans and regime how good that comeback victory at Chelsea must have felt
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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,014
    CAFCTrev said:

    Bradford is another team with a big ground at our level, but as far I know they havent closed stands down even at their worst times.


    Capacity is about 25k and they had the 2nd highest average attendance in league one last season
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,223
    Would be an opportunity to not sell the tickets around the dug out so allowing room to rebuild and expand them.

    Not nice for people who've had ST there for a long time but at least now can offer alternative seats and a discount/free ST to those that they move.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,037
    Bigbadbozman said:

    Elthamaddick said:

    Bradford have still got something like 16,000 ST holders

    I see them quite a lot the ground is generally pretty full. They do a lot of incentive work for the fans to get them to keep renewing. The in laws have had st's for years. As an example of how they treat their fans.. A couple of seasons ago they played Chelsea in the FA cup the in laws couldn't get tickets because of the way BCFC put them up for sale, father in law emailed the club explaining that they had attended all cup matches home & away for 2/3 seasons previously. He got a swift reply from their CEO who invited to meet with them in his office and when there gave him 2 tickets gratis and gave them a full apology!!! That is customer service and how to build relationships with your fans.
    That sounds like another world from what we've been saddled with doesn't it.
  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    Bigbadbozman said:

    Elthamaddick said:

    Bradford have still got something like 16,000 ST holders

    I see them quite a lot the ground is generally pretty full. They do a lot of incentive work for the fans to get them to keep renewing. The in laws have had st's for years. As an example of how they treat their fans.. A couple of seasons ago they played Chelsea in the FA cup the in laws couldn't get tickets because of the way BCFC put them up for sale, father in law emailed the club explaining that they had attended all cup matches home & away for 2/3 seasons previously. He got a swift reply from their CEO who invited to meet with them in his office and when there gave him 2 tickets gratis and gave them a full apology!!! That is customer service and how to build relationships with your fans.
    The real irony is our Club wrote the manual on building a rapport with it's supporters, developing the stadium and filling it. All that happened was everyone involved in doing that has since been sacked and we have a grossly incompetent, personally deluded and arrogant Belgian ego maniac running the club. Most of those with real insight and capability support CARD because they realise there ia only one way out of the current predicament.
  • Atletico Addick
    Atletico Addick Posts: 5,843
    Henry Irving said:

    Would be an opportunity to not sell the tickets around the dug out so allowing room to rebuild and expand them.

    We need smaller dugouts at this rate, not bigger!

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