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  • Obviously I would say this but......always speak to a Financial Advisor, preferably a "whole of market" one (the term has now sadly superseded "Independent"). Either by referral from a friend or colleague or failing that by looking up the FCA register. 

    The advisor market has really been cleaned up since the 1980's. No more dodgy ex-car salesmen (yes, I've worked with a few of them in the past) as the level of Compliance & testing that goes on now has weeded them out. 


    I need a review of my pension arrangements from somebody in my local area, SE10 - hard to know who to go to as recommendations may not be objective. Difficult to know where to start.

    Something I should have done a few years ago. 
  • On a non pension note I see Bitcoin is now $19.4K  with a projection to double by 2030. Have to admit I just can’t get my head around Crypto Currencies & mining companies, anyone know a decent link that explains it a very simply logical way. I am not looking to invest directly into Bitcoin but am interested in the technical aspects of mining. 

    I just want to expand my very limited understanding, I have a few shares in ARB (UK mining company) which are showing a healthy return but in all honesty bought these not through any research from myself but from a recommendation from an old mate. 
  • Can't help on Bitcoin, I dabbled, made a decent bit and sold up, as I just can't understand what drives the many up's and down's!

    On another note, Premium bond day tomorrow. Good luck everyone who holds some.


  • Rob7Lee said:
    Can't help on Bitcoin, I dabbled, made a decent bit and sold up, as I just can't understand what drives the many up's and down's!

    On another note, Premium bond day tomorrow. Good luck everyone who holds some.


    Ta Rob7Lee 👍
  • Rob7Lee said:
    Can't help on Bitcoin, I dabbled, made a decent bit and sold up, as I just can't understand what drives the many up's and down's!

    On another note, Premium bond day tomorrow. Good luck everyone who holds some.


    The two big prizes have gone to people (both female) in South Manchester and Gloucestershire apparently.  :(
  • Chaz Hill said:
    The two big prizes have gone to people (both female) in South Manchester and Gloucestershire apparently.  :(
    yer I read that, blood sexist is NS&I  :D

    Still a few £100k one's up for grabs though ........
  • Might be worth a read for those who understand those sort of thing, 

    https://apple.news/Am5z8F4MuRJC2qH0JqzWrxg
  • You just know that is going to be Mouthall's partner! 
    Don't think you can buy Premium Bonds with a credit card!
  • Rob7Lee said:
    yer I read that, blood sexist is NS&I  :D

    Still a few £100k one's up for grabs though ........
    Ashers said:
    Don't think you can buy Premium Bonds with a credit card!
    Oi Premium Bonds what about us in Deepest Darkest Daarrzzett  ;);)  
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  • On a non pension note I see Bitcoin is now $19.4K  with a projection to double by 2030. Have to admit I just can’t get my head around Crypto Currencies & mining companies, anyone know a decent link that explains it a very simply logical way. I am not looking to invest directly into Bitcoin but am interested in the technical aspects of mining. 

    I just want to expand my very limited understanding, I have a few shares in ARB (UK mining company) which are showing a healthy return but in all honesty bought these not through any research from myself but from a recommendation from an old mate. 
    I think I've lost more money investing in miners than any other way, particularly small ones. 

    Even if you avoid the charlatans and crooks, they are effectively an option on the commodity they mine due to high, more or less fixed costs.  Once the commodity goes above the cost of production, they can go up quickly.  If the price sinks below cost, they plummet.  

    The explorers are even riskier - some of them are binary on finding sources and then require huge amount of capital to set up and often chew through early equity investors and end up getting owned by the banks.  

    On top of that they operate in challenging environments and subject to all sorts of disruptions due to the weather, wars, strikes, accidents, disputes with local government, etc.  I'm going back to mining pooled funds ....

    Bitcoin, you can think more of as a gold alternative.  Add in that the jury is still out on whether its a safe store of value, hence the wild gyrations.
  • I think the mining he was Referring to was the mining of Bit Coin, which is I believe how new BitCoins are created.  
  • I think I've lost more money investing in miners than any other way, particularly small ones. 

    Even if you avoid the charlatans and crooks, they are effectively an option on the commodity they mine due to high, more or less fixed costs.  Once the commodity goes above the cost of production, they can go up quickly.  If the price sinks below cost, they plummet.  

    The explorers are even riskier - some of them are binary on finding sources and then require huge amount of capital to set up and often chew through early equity investors and end up getting owned by the banks.  

    On top of that they operate in challenging environments and subject to all sorts of disruptions due to the weather, wars, strikes, accidents, disputes with local government, etc.  I'm going back to mining pooled funds ....

    Bitcoin, you can think more of as a gold alternative.  Add in that the jury is still out on whether its a safe store of value, hence the wild gyrations.
    Appreciate the response #WishIdStayedinthePub  
  • I need a review of my pension arrangements from somebody in my local area, SE10 - hard to know who to go to as recommendations may not be objective. Difficult to know where to start.

    Something I should have done a few years ago. 
    Are you suggesting that a financial advisor might recommend a course of action that is not in your best interests and merely trying to line his own pocket ?
  • Are you suggesting that a financial advisor might recommend a course of action that is not in your best interests and merely trying to line his own pocket ?
    Well it's not impossible.🤔
  • Bonds day. £25 for me, nought for the Mrs.
  • Obviously I would say this but......always speak to a Financial Advisor, preferably a "whole of market" one (the term has now sadly superseded "Independent"). Either by referral from a friend or colleague or failing that by looking up the FCA register. 

    The advisor market has really been cleaned up since the 1980's. No more dodgy ex-car salesmen (yes, I've worked with a few of them in the past) as the level of Compliance & testing that goes on now has weeded them out. 



    A Thai friend went on a course two weeks ago. Three days. She now has cards and a Facebook page with the term Financial Advisor as the job description. I prefer to refer to her as an unqualified insurance salesperson.

    They are years behind the Western world here.
  • Diddly-squat for me this month.
  • Diddly-squat for me this month.
    And me, and the wife!
  • Rob7Lee said:
    And me, and the wife!
    Yep no Xmas for me either
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  • Maybe the system messed up! 
  • I don't normally get an email until about the 4th of the month. Still hoping!!!
  • I don't normally get an email until about the 4th of the month. Still hoping!!!
    Just type your bond number in on the website.
  • Quiet month all round on the PB front by the looks of it. 2x£25 for the wife and nothing for me and the boy :'(
  • Are you suggesting that a financial advisor might recommend a course of action that is not in your best interests and merely trying to line his own pocket ?
    Perish the very thought. 
  • £50 for me. 
  • £50.00 for me, not sure about wifey she’s lost her bond number, she awaits the email or non email, still we know it ain’t the biggy 🤨
  • This is the first draw after the prize winning rates have been cut. Less money in the prize pot, less winners. Get used to reduced prizes I'm afraid. 
  • Bugger all this month.
  • As per usual my Father in law won, £150. It's now been over 3 years since he last didn't win and only 4 times has he won less than £100! Some people get all the luck.
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