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Don't laugh: 3 new fan engagement initiatives

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  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,943
    LeaburnForEngland said:

    Off_it said:

    Is it too early to start another fresh start, new era, etc since the last one earlier today?

    We already did, about a minute ago, you missed it.

    Ah

    Hang on

    Spoke too soon.

    A fresh start just happened. New era starts NOW
    Right. Well I for one am more than happy to give them another go. I mean, they've not done a lot wrong since the new fresh start 5 minutes ago.

  • bazjonster
    bazjonster Posts: 2,875
    Taken from the link:

    'The club with run a Meet the Manager Evening at The Valley in September for season ticket holders, giving them the opportunity to meet Charlton’s new manager Russell Slade'............. Unquote

    How about 'the club will also provide English and Grammar lessons for its Comms team' !!!!! Does anybody actually review what they write before it's published? Amateurs!!!
  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,885
    These meet the manger meetings will prove useful seeing as there are likely to be quite a few in a short space of time.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Katrien Meire arrived for work at the Valley today at a quarter to two. She swept past us in her Range Rover seventy five minutes before kick off.
    This is a fresh start for her as previously she used to arrive about half an hour earlier.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,090
    seth plum said:

    Katrien Meire arrived for work at the Valley today at a quarter to two. She swept past us in her Range Rover seventy five minutes before kick off.
    This is a fresh start for her as previously she used to arrive about half an hour earlier.

    Not travelling by train any more?
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,880
    Another own goal via the surveys.

    Or they just won't read them.
  • FORD
    FORD Posts: 627
    Does anyone mind if we start a new era now, didn't quite like the new new era, but thinking that a new new new era might be what we need. I'll start it at 23:47 if that's okay!? All in favour say squirrel features and do 2 u-turns.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,490
    PragueAddick said:

    Well as of now the Supporters Trust has received no information from the Club about these meetings, still less confirmation that the Club thinks the Trust is one of these 'official" groups. Although you have to assume they do. In the eyes of the football authorities a properly constituted Supporters Trust, registered with Supporters Direct and with a membership that is almost certainly the biggest in Division Three, does not come more official.

    Of course in a Thesaurus, the words "official" and "compliant" do not come up together.

    This has started well.

    Do you think CARD count as an official supporters group? They seem to have a lot of followers...
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,575
    Just to advise that we are not the biggest Trust in Div Three. Bolton claim around 6k -their Trust just being formed in January as part of their takeover. So just another 5k for us to go. And they charge £10 membership while we are £5.
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,559
    A-R-T-H-U-R said:

    I am encouraged by this announcement.
    After the appointment of Slade, it's a small step in the right direction.
    At the very least it is an acknowledgement by them that CARD have a valid point about the way the club is run.

    No it isn't at all.

    It is an acknowledgment that all clubs have been ordered to meet with fans groups.

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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    The meetings will consist of the fans in a plebian gaggle whilst folk from the club will be at a 'top table ' showing a power point that does not work.
    It is ironic in the extreme that they framed the letter in signacontractforaseasonticketgate, as somehow in response to fans concerns.
    I am concerned for example that this regime won't talk to potential buyers, will they respond to my concerns without telling downright lies.
    I am concerned that they employ Tony Keohane, will they respond by sacking him?
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,217
    edited August 2016
    Weegie Addick said:

    Just to advise that we are not the biggest Trust in Div Three. Bolton claim around 6k -their Trust just being formed in January as part of their takeover. So just another 5k for us to go. And they charge £10 membership while we are £5.

    Does Trust membership give them a share in the club, as at Swansea? ( I haven't really followed their takeover)

  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,771
    seth plum said:

    The meetings will consist of the fans in a plebian gaggle whilst folk from the club will be at a 'top table ' showing a power point that does not work.
    It is ironic in the extreme that they framed the letter in signacontractforaseasonticketgate, as somehow in response to fans concerns.
    I am concerned for example that this regime won't talk to potential buyers, will they respond to my concerns without telling downright lies.
    I am concerned that they employ Tony Keohane, will they respond by sacking him?

    Hmm.

    Anyone have Peter Varney's number ?

    A newly formed Supporter Group (probably best not to call themselves Ebbsfleet Addicks ) could surely request an invitation to one of these meetings.....

  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,090
    Fanny Fanackapan said:

    seth plum said:

    The meetings will consist of the fans in a plebian gaggle whilst folk from the club will be at a 'top table ' showing a power point that does not work.
    It is ironic in the extreme that they framed the letter in signacontractforaseasonticketgate, as somehow in response to fans concerns.
    I am concerned for example that this regime won't talk to potential buyers, will they respond to my concerns without telling downright lies.
    I am concerned that they employ Tony Keohane, will they respond by sacking him?

    Hmm.

    Anyone have Peter Varney's number ?

    A newly formed Supporter Group (probably best not to call themselves Ebbsfleet Addicks ) could surely request an invitation to one of these meetings.....

    There's an interesting idea :smile:
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,374
    Fanny Fanackapan said:

    seth plum said:

    The meetings will consist of the fans in a plebian gaggle whilst folk from the club will be at a 'top table ' showing a power point that does not work.
    It is ironic in the extreme that they framed the letter in signacontractforaseasonticketgate, as somehow in response to fans concerns.
    I am concerned for example that this regime won't talk to potential buyers, will they respond to my concerns without telling downright lies.
    I am concerned that they employ Tony Keohane, will they respond by sacking him?

    Hmm.

    Anyone have Peter Varney's number ?

    A newly formed Supporter Group (probably best not to call themselves Ebbsfleet Addicks ) could surely request an invitation to one of these meetings.....

    He surely just needs to take out membership with one of the supporters club branches. Or, preferably, all of them.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 8,000
    Was told on Saturday that East Kent Addicks had received an invite for a meeting prior to the Bolton game.
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,771
    bolloxbolder said:

    Was told on Saturday that East Kent Addicks had received an invite for a meeting prior to the Bolton game.

    Break this news to Henry very gently.....

  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,174
    I hope the official groups share what's said and work with CARD.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,575
    edited August 2016
    The Red Robin said:

    I hope the official groups share what's said and work with CARD.

    The Trust are part of CARD but so far have not been contacted about this initiative by the club.

    @PragueAddick I believe Bolton ST were part of the takeover but would need to check details of what finally went through.

  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,490
    Weegie Addick said:

    The Red Robin said:

    I hope the official groups share what's said and work with CARD.

    The Trust are part of CARD but so far have not been contacted about this initiative by the club.

    @PragueAddick I believe Bolton ST were part of the takeover but would need to check details of what finally went through.

    Going from their website it looks like they only have 2k (or at least they have a banner on their site that says "2k and growing," could obviously be old). It also doesn't look like it has any ownership in the club.

    http://www.bwfcst.co.uk/faqs/

    Also worth noting that, from what I remember, Swansea's takeover resulted in a payout to certain owners, but not their trust.

    According to this, it sounds like the Trust (who own 21%) weren't even consulted on the takeover:

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/21/swansea-takeover-steve-kaplan-jason-levien

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  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,217
    SDAddick said:

    Weegie Addick said:

    The Red Robin said:

    I hope the official groups share what's said and work with CARD.

    The Trust are part of CARD but so far have not been contacted about this initiative by the club.

    @PragueAddick I believe Bolton ST were part of the takeover but would need to check details of what finally went through.

    Going from their website it looks like they only have 2k (or at least they have a banner on their site that says "2k and growing," could obviously be old). It also doesn't look like it has any ownership in the club.

    http://www.bwfcst.co.uk/faqs/

    Also worth noting that, from what I remember, Swansea's takeover resulted in a payout to certain owners, but not their trust.

    According to this, it sounds like the Trust (who own 21%) weren't even consulted on the takeover:

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/21/swansea-takeover-steve-kaplan-jason-levien
    The Swansea affair is depressing. What it basically shows is that unless fans have 51% minimum, they are screwed.

    The German model is basically the only one that consistently works in the best interests of fans.

  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,130
    If that model existed in England, would fans be expected for cough up 51% of the losses? How exactly does that work in Germany?
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,217
    Stu_of_Kunming said:

    If that model existed in England, would fans be expected for cough up 51% of the losses? How exactly does that work in Germany?

    Thats a very good question, and I dont have the complete answer to hand, will try to get it.

    Generally though, the system is credited with preventing the racking up of losses, admin, and collapse, that marks out our leagues.

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