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Ezri Konsa (p3. England U20 call up)

francis4england
francis4england Posts: 421
edited March 2017 in General Charlton
Been very impressed with him so far! First game looked nervous but still did well and last 2 games he has been solid. Quick, reads the game well and good in the tackle.

Is he the real deal?

And should he be keeping Bauer out the team?

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  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,725
    edited August 2016
    He's raw, makes the odd misjudgement but he does look good. another Gomez. puts himself about, has pace and is not afraid of any forwards.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    When Lennon is fit that gives us two very promising young CB's.
    Let's hope we can keep them and develop them, and not sell them
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280

    When Lennon is fit that gives us two very promising young CB's.
    Let's hope we can keep them and develop them, and not sell them

    Prob more likely Bauer and Tex will be sold - coz they are on much bigger wages.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    Very likely
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,228
    edited August 2016

    When Lennon is fit that gives us two very promising young CB's.
    Let's hope we can keep them and develop them, and not sell them

    Prob more likely Bauer and Tex will be sold - coz they are on much bigger wages.
    They are also better centre-backs... All for a slag off but he has potential, let's not be silly
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    Wouldn't mind seeing him moved into center midfield against Bolton, especially if The Skipper is out. When I've seen him play there at youth level he looks very good on the ball and quite mobile. Definitely a different level, but I feel like it's harder to come into central defense (may just be me).

    If he did play in central midfield it would in theory give us the tactical flexibility to switch between 4-4-2 and 5-2-3, with the later seeing him drop into defense, having Crofts and Foley (or JJ if fit) in central midfield, then Mcgennis and Holmes floating around Ajose looking to create for him. I know we're unlikely to see that level of tactical flexibility, but it's nice to pretend.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    SDAddick said:

    Wouldn't mind seeing him moved into center midfield against Bolton, especially if The Skipper is out. When I've seen him play there at youth level he looks very good on the ball and quite mobile. Definitely a different level, but I feel like it's harder to come into central defense (may just be me).

    If he did play in central midfield it would in theory give us the tactical flexibility to switch between 4-4-2 and 5-2-3, with the later seeing him drop into defense, having Crofts and Foley (or JJ if fit) in central midfield, then Mcgennis and Holmes floating around Ajose looking to create for him. I know we're unlikely to see that level of tactical flexibility, but it's nice to pretend.

    If jj is missing this is probably all we've got apart from lookman.
    Shows how badly we need a new cm ASAP
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Just imagine if we had a half decent owner and we could've been in the prem/top champ with Powell as manager, with potentially Gomez and this lad as a centre half pairing.

    You have to laugh or you'll cry.
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    Ducktapes next big pay day.
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,741
    What is his contract status? If he is on the usual 1 year for a youngster they need to sort that quickly.
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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384

    What is his contract status? If he is on the usual 1 year for a youngster they need to sort that quickly.

    Undisclosed (seriously).

    http://mobile.cafc.co.uk/news/article/charlton-athletic-new-contracts-academy-2846963.aspx

    Signed in December 2015 so I'd imagine it's until 2018 or 2019. Think there was something about deals not being allowed to be more than 3 years and an optional year for young players.

    One good thing RD/KM have done is get a lot of youngsters signed up. Could argue too many but I guess it's better to sign up too many on long deals than risk losing/letting a player go too early.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360

    Been very impressed with him so far! First game looked nervous but still did well and last 2 games he has been solid. Quick, reads the game well and good in the tackle.

    Is he the real deal?

    And should he be keeping Bauer out the team?

    looks good, probably too young too have too much pressure on him.

    Different player to Bauer. Also differs from Tex.

    If we keep all 4 I'm happy.
  • GlassHalfFull
    GlassHalfFull Posts: 2,351

    EK is developing fast and clearly has a football brain - he has a real chance. At the same age he doesn't have the sheer physicality of Rufus or the wonderful athleticism of Gomez but he is 100% genuine Konsa. He'll do for me.
  • Konsa has really impressed me - will get better with experience. Makes mistakes but is learning his trade and doesn't seem out of place.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,874
    Konsa seems to be a footballing centre half (he can play in midfield as well) and thus could be of interest to the big boys if he maintains his progress...
  • jamescafc
    jamescafc Posts: 1,831
    Scoham said:

    What is his contract status? If he is on the usual 1 year for a youngster they need to sort that quickly.

    Undisclosed (seriously).

    http://mobile.cafc.co.uk/news/article/charlton-athletic-new-contracts-academy-2846963.aspx

    Signed in December 2015 so I'd imagine it's until 2018 or 2019. Think there was something about deals not being allowed to be more than 3 years and an optional year for young players.

    One good thing RD/KM have done is get a lot of youngsters signed up. Could argue too many but I guess it's better to sign up too many on long deals than risk losing/letting a player go too early.
    And then let them go for peanuts
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,814
    Got to pay the monkeys somehow.
  • Konsa seems to be a footballing centre half (he can play in midfield as well) and thus could be of interest to the big boys if he maintains his progress...

    And looked no mug as right back against Orient...
  • Fiiiiiish
    Fiiiiiish Posts: 1,671
    Very good talent, will make mistakes and learn.

    Very shakey (understandably) v Northampton in the first half. Heard a few calls for him to be subbed at half time, which is not the way to develop. Glad Slade stook by him and got his confidence up.

    Best thing is he will only continue to get better.
  • When Lennon is fit that gives us two very promising young CB's.
    Let's hope we can keep them and develop them, and not sell them

    Cawley has tweeted saying that Lennon will be playing for the U23's later today
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  • Konsa reminds me of Gomez, would like to watch him play and learn over the next year or two. Having breaks as required.
  • Absolute monster of a lad for 18/19 years old. He was solid against Walsall and looks a very exciting prospect.
  • Bangkokaddick
    Bangkokaddick Posts: 4,297

    Konsa reminds me of Gomez, would like to watch him play and learn over the next year or two. Having breaks as required.

    I hope you don't mean the same sort of breaks as Gomez at Liverpool!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,874

    When Lennon is fit that gives us two very promising young CB's.
    Let's hope we can keep them and develop them, and not sell them

    Cawley has tweeted saying that Lennon will be playing for the U23's later today
    No need to rush Lennon back, which is a nice situation to be in
  • When Lennon is fit that gives us two very promising young CB's.
    Let's hope we can keep them and develop them, and not sell them

    Cawley has tweeted saying that Lennon will be playing for the U23's later today
    No need to rush Lennon back, which is a nice situation to be in
    Oh am sure we're not anymore...

    But is a lovely situation to be in as means we may not need Johnson's name on the bench soon!!
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I feel sure experienced watchers such as dickplum and bolloxbolder would agree that he really does have talent compared with others of his age.
    Having seen a lot of youth and academy football it is possible to develop a good vibe for those who have a chance, and although there are pitfalls along the way for any young footballer, I would say Konsa has a real chance.
    I would also say he needs to be managed well for the benefit of all concerned.
  • The main point is there is enough depth at Centre Back for Lennon not to be rushed back.

    Play him in behind the doors friendlies and U23 matches to get his match fitness back at that level. It will be a step up to the first team but a huge difference to being rushed of the treatment table into the deep end because there is nobody else.

    It should not really be a lovely situation it should be the norm.

    For Konsa it is a very promising start for a talented lad. He like most youngsters needs to have his game time managed. Playing at this senior level over a protracted period is a big physical and mental ask. I am not saying he cannot do it but he and the manager should have the time to let him grow into the job.

    It should be what the Duchatlet strategy is about.

    If there is some mysterious long term plan for the club then the player development plan should go with it. I still doubt however the Staprix data & financial analysts work to such a basic principle of a people business. If you are running a factory then why would you.

    From the way the club handle Konsas' future it will be interesting to see if anything has really changed.
  • Splodge
    Splodge Posts: 514
    I expect that if/when Konsa is taken out of the team for a breather it'll be with Bauer partnering Pearce. Once Lennon is fit that gives us 4 decent centre halves, if you consider Tex as gone and Johnson as an over-rated prima dona.

    Pity RoJo was kept on... He'll just take the money and do as little as he can for it.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Splodge said:

    I expect that if/when Konsa is taken out of the team for a breather it'll be with Bauer partnering Pearce. Once Lennon is fit that gives us 4 decent centre halves, if you consider Tex as gone and Johnson as an over-rated prima dona.

    Pity RoJo was kept on... He'll just take the money and do as little as he can for it.

    by who???
  • Konsa reminds me of Gomez, would like to watch him play and learn over the next year or two. Having breaks as required.

    I hope you don't mean the same sort of breaks as Gomez at Liverpool!
    Poor choice of words, noted.