TBH, most arguments ive seen on this seem to concentrate on tradition . Dont you think its time to 'think outside the box?' - i dont have any problem with a 5pm kick-off, but others might - but dont come along with the tradition argument - look at the England teams performances recently- theyve done really well havnt they? For me, its time for change.
Why? Any reason or just for the sake of change?
Its not a case of change for change sake - its just the general reluctance to change. Using the two main examples, neither England nor Charlton seem to be pulling trees up for the past x years, so maybe we(they) should be looking to do things differently and not stick to tried and trusted failure.
What would changing kick off time do?
As a club we've struggled in recent years because an owner has come in and tried to do things differently.
TBH, most arguments ive seen on this seem to concentrate on tradition . Dont you think its time to 'think outside the box?' - i dont have any problem with a 5pm kick-off, but others might - but dont come along with the tradition argument - look at the England teams performances recently- theyve done really well havnt they? For me, its time for change.
Why? Any reason or just for the sake of change?
Its not a case of change for change sake - its just the general reluctance to change. Using the two main examples, neither England nor Charlton seem to be pulling trees up for the past x years, so maybe we(they) should be looking to do things differently and not stick to tried and trusted failure.
What would changing kick off time do?
As a club we've struggled in recent years because an owner has come in and tried to do things differently.
Oh come on, it's obvious. If Charlton & England KO at 5pm, Charlton will be in The Prem within a few seasons and England will win the next world cup. Why didn't anyone think of this before ?
Claiming that a survey revealed X is easy. Harder when asked to provide evidence of survey or even find someone who has been consulted ... and no, Katrien, EKA and SE7 Valiants does not constitute a cross-section of fanseven if they are the only ones who are nice to you.
Another fairly obvious Squirrel Face strategy. Claim that a daft idea which you have dreamed up actually originated with fans. Bad news, Katrien ... we are not languishing in League 1 with a reputation as a shambles because we start matches at 3pm.
TBH, most arguments ive seen on this seem to concentrate on tradition . Dont you think its time to 'think outside the box?' - i dont have any problem with a 5pm kick-off, but others might - but dont come along with the tradition argument - look at the England teams performances recently- theyve done really well havnt they? For me, its time for change.
England don't kick off at 3 anymore. Not one of the 10 forthcoming fixtures on the FA website is a 3PM kick off, Pres.
They can kick-off at midnight as far as I'm concerned - if that's what everyone wants. However, don't come along with tradition and sentiment as being the reason not to change- the old 'oh, we've always done it that way' scenario.
They can kick-off at midnight as far as I'm concerned - if that's what everyone wants. However, don't come along with tradition and sentiment as being the reason not to change- the old 'oh, we've always done it that way' scenario.
Why not, where there appears to be no real reason to change it?
And if you're not bothered, then why do you care if it stays at 3pm?
@Airman Brown is this the same meeting where they were openly sniggering at her suggestion to move kick offs to 5pm on Saturday?
That was before Christmas last year.
I always thought there should be a thread that just listed all the mighty ideas and wise comments our Interim CEO has graced us with over the last couple of years. It might cause CL to crash with the volume of posts, but any passing journo could hand pick a few to flavour their future stories about us.
Always thought the same, would makes things so much easier and be a great laugh at times too. I personally couldn't start it as I don't know as much as people on here.
Well she doesn't actually get up until 3pm on weekends so this would allow her to keep her routine
Oi, you been peering through my windows?? Theres a reason she hasn't the energy to get up before mid afternoon........
@Airman Brown is this the same meeting where they were openly sniggering at her suggestion to move kick offs to 5pm on Saturday?
That was before Christmas last year.
I always thought there should be a thread that just listed all the mighty ideas and wise comments our Interim CEO has graced us with over the last couple of years. It might cause CL to crash with the volume of posts, but any passing journo could hand pick a few to flavour their future stories about us.
Always thought the same, would makes things so much easier and be a great laugh at times too. I personally couldn't start it as I don't know as much as people on here.
Well she doesn't actually get up until 3pm on weekends so this would allow her to keep her routine
Oi, you been peering through my windows?? Theres a reason she hasn't the energy to get up before mid afternoon........
For away fans a 12 midday or a 5pm are very inconvenient. For this alone there is no reason to change kick-off times.
There's the reason. Other countries generally don't travel in numbers like they do in the English game so having late and early kick off's else where can work. If kick off's were 5 o clock then I probably wouldn't go to half the amount of aways I go to due to getting back stupidly late or having to stay over.
The only country that is on par with the english game is Germany.Most games kick off 3pm and when teams play in europe are given 24hours grace same as in england.Fans travel all over Germany in numbers without trouble same as in England.Freedom to travel is what makes the games tick.
Get over to watch a germain game well worth it.An eye opener just as in england.Beer and eats aswell.
Reason for sticking to 3pm is not just tradition, it's the watershed. No televised football helping protecting the gate revenue for the whole football pyramid. See what happens when the FL goes up against Champions League etc in midweek. Plus away fans.
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As a club we've struggled in recent years because an owner has come in and tried to do things differently.
Another fairly obvious Squirrel Face strategy. Claim that a daft idea which you have dreamed up actually originated with fans. Bad news, Katrien ... we are not languishing in League 1 with a reputation as a shambles because we start matches at 3pm.
However, don't come along with tradition and sentiment as being the reason not to change- the old 'oh, we've always done it that way' scenario.
And if you're not bothered, then why do you care if it stays at 3pm?
If he also owns the bar he may not have bought that drink at all....
Have you been out with Swisdom recently?
Get over to watch a germain game well worth it.An eye opener just as in england.Beer and eats aswell.