Lets Stop Bickering and Get Behind the Team, Roland & Katrien!

OAndyHunt

Hi There

Been a fan of Charlton all my life and firstly I want to make it clear that this post is in no way Satire.

I Also would like to bring to the attention of any forum administrators that we are constantly shouting about Katrien shutting down free speech so I would like my voice to be heard and not be blocked or kicked off the forum for simply bringing this to discussion.

Why do we hate Katrien so much would be my first question? She has brought in some new ideas and is trying the best she can with the resources given to her. Its like we all like picking on her and being abusive because it makes us feel superior. I personally have seen a lot of positive changes and given time she could change Charlton for the better. I surely wasn't the only one who was glad to see the back of Chris Powell??? Boring Boring Boring, never saw him play as he was a bit before my time but his management skills were poor (And we all know that really)...Secondly, why the hate for Roland?? I mean to have that much money and influence in his life he clearly isn't stupid?? why is it bad if he is a businessman?? That's Great!! It means that he will be licking his lips at the idea of that Premier Leauge Money!! GIVE HIM TIME! Hes playing the long game and I can see that but others don't seem to be able too.

In Summary...Why the hate? Lets get behind the team, lets get behind Roland and lets give Katrien a break. Shes trying her best and yes some of the ideas haven't worked like the fan sofa (Shame on those who felt the need to rip it up), but shes clearly an intelligent astute women who WILL get things right. Also she has every right to ban fans who speak negatively and aggressively at her, how would you like the abuse she has received??

Finally whether we like it or not its ROLANDS club, yes we support the club but it is in no way ours, even though I love Charlton I understand its not mine, we need to chill out and let the people who are in the top seats do their job.

Surely someone out there can see what im saying???????

Isawsummersplay

To quote John McEnroe, you cannot be serious.

Charlton_Stu

Her best isn't good enough simple as that, she hasn't done anything that's good for Cafc.

ShootersHillGuru

Gawd help us. Couldn't disagree with OP more if I tried.

LuckyReds

Isawsummersplay said:

To quote John McEnroe, you cannot be serious.

He was pretty good on "A League Of Their Own" last week. That's a quality show actually.

OAndyHunt

TOO MUCH NEGATIVITY, GET BEHIND THE CLUB, ALL OF THE CLUB.

LuckyReds

ShootersHillGuru said:

Gawd help us. Couldn't disagree with OP more if I tried.

It's a WUM. Just look at the avatar. No point really arguing with it.

What are you having for dinner tonight? I'm gonna have a Chinese takeaway. #ThatFridayTaste

LargeAddick

God help us, there are none so blind as those that cannot see. Can only think that the OP is an ostrich.

Henry Irving

OAndyHunt said:

Hi There

Been a fan of Charlton all my life and firstly I want to make it clear that this post is in no way Satire.

I Also would like to bring to the attention of any forum administrators that we are constantly shouting about Katrien shutting down free speech so I would like my voice to be heard and not be blocked or kicked off the forum for simply bringing this to discussion.

Why do you think you'll be kicked off? You won't if you're not offensive or a troll but people will disagree with you

Why do we hate Katrien so much would be my first question? She has brought in some new ideas and is trying the best she can with the resources given to her.

No, she's not. She wastes resources attending conferences, buying players like Nabby Sarr and Polish Pete and on PR agencies. We are meant to have a top six budget. We're 18th.


Its like we all like picking on her and being abusive because it makes us feel superior.

Who's is we? Does that include you?

I personally have seen a lot of positive changes and given time she could change Charlton for the better.

Please tell us what these positive changes are? Relegation, smaller gates?


I surely wasn't the only one who was glad to see the back of Chris Powell??? Boring Boring Boring, never saw him play as he was a bit before my time but his management skills were poor (And we all know that really)...

We're you too young to see us walk league one or finish 9th in the Championship under boring Powell.
And even if you don't rate him he's six managers back now.


Secondly, why the hate for Roland?? I mean to have that much money and influence in his life he clearly isn't stupid?? why is it bad if he is a businessman?? That's Great!! It means that he will be licking his lips at the idea of that Premier Leauge Money!! GIVE HIM TIME! Hes playing the long game and I can see that but others don't seem to be able too.

But he's not taking us to the Premiership is he.

In Summary...Why the hate? Lets get behind the team, lets get behind Roland and lets give Katrien a break. Shes trying her best and yes some of the ideas haven't worked like the fan sofa (Shame on those who felt the need to rip it up), but shes clearly an intelligent astute women who WILL get things right. Also she has every right to ban fans who speak negatively and aggressively at her, how would you like the abuse she has received??

i don't hate them, I just want them out of MY club

Finally whether we like it or not its ROLANDS club, yes we support the club but it is in no way ours, even though I love Charlton I understand its not mine, we need to chill out and let the people who are in the top seats do their job.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. It is very much OUR club and not his.

Surely someone out there can see what im saying???????

No, not really. A rather poorlt put together list of cliches and falsehood with no substance. 2/10 trolling that even PL54 would be ashamed of

OAndyHunt

LargeAddick said:

God help us, there are none so blind as those that cannot see. Can only think that the OP is an ostrich.

Its you who can not see, things will get better, give them time.

twiggyaddick

OAndyHunt said:

Hi There

Been a fan of Charlton all my life and firstly I want to make it clear that this post is in no way Satire.

I Also would like to bring to the attention of any forum administrators that we are constantly shouting about Katrien shutting down free speech so I would like my voice to be heard and not be blocked or kicked off the forum for simply bringing this to discussion.

Why do we hate Katrien so much would be my first question? She has brought in some new ideas and is trying the best she can with the resources given to her. Its like we all like picking on her and being abusive because it makes us feel superior. I personally have seen a lot of positive changes and given time she could change Charlton for the better. I surely wasn't the only one who was glad to see the back of Chris Powell??? Boring Boring Boring, never saw him play as he was a bit before my time but his management skills were poor (And we all know that really)...Secondly, why the hate for Roland?? I mean to have that much money and influence in his life he clearly isn't stupid?? why is it bad if he is a businessman?? That's Great!! It means that he will be licking his lips at the idea of that Premier Leauge Money!! GIVE HIM TIME! Hes playing the long game and I can see that but others don't seem to be able too.

In Summary...Why the hate? Lets get behind the team, lets get behind Roland and lets give Katrien a break. Shes trying her best and yes some of the ideas haven't worked like the fan sofa (Shame on those who felt the need to rip it up), but shes clearly an intelligent astute women who WILL get things right. Also she has every right to ban fans who speak negatively and aggressively at her, how would you like the abuse she has received??

Finally whether we like it or not its ROLANDS club, yes we support the club but it is in no way ours, even though I love Charlton I understand its not mine, we need to chill out and let the people who are in the top seats do their job.

Surely someone out there can see what im saying???????

Powell a bit before your time but your name is OAndyHunt, a player and chant from from the same Era...


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Hi Katrien/Tony/Roland/Thomas (delete as applicable

JollyRobin

Hi Sue, I didn't realise you were a member here.

Don't suppose you had any luck getting me some comp tickets for the Coventry game?

LeaburnForEngland

Hmm... @OAndyHunt 's previous posts on the subject -

"I will 100% return when they go!"

"i agree with disgustedofdulwich If Roland still has the club next year i would love to see no one buy a season ticket at the Valley."

"lets sack Charlton off and all go to Bromley or Welling!"

So.... WUM or liquid lunch Friday?

CHG

OAndyHunt said:

i agree with disgustedofdulwich

If Roland still has the club next year i would love to see no one buy a season ticket at the Valley. Then if everyone made that extra effort to get to the away games we will supporting the players without giving Roland & Co a penny. It could also be fun for us customers!!

You have changed your tune..........

OAndyHunt

LeaburnForEngland said:

Hmm... @OAndyHunt 's previous posts on the subject -

"I will 100% return when they go!"

"i agree with disgustedofdulwich If Roland still has the club next year i would love to see no one buy a season ticket at the Valley."

"lets sack Charlton off and all go to Bromley or Welling!"

So.... WUM or liquid lunch Friday?

Ive changed my mind, I had a moment of clarity and truly believe we are all being to harsh. im dead serious.

MountsfieldPark

The pod people are taking over.

LuckyReds

OAndyHunt said:

LargeAddick said:

God help us, there are none so blind as those that cannot see. Can only think that the OP is an ostrich.

Its you who can not see, things will get better, give them time.

We agree.

He will leave and things will get better.

mistrollingin

Back in your box mate.

Wrinkley_Addick_SE9

Nice try Katrien, not fooling anyone.

Scratchingvalleycat

Katrien is a lawyer and sees herself as an advisor which is her training rather than being a decision maker which is what a CEO should be. She cant take decisions without deferring to Roland who as you rightly say is described as a businessman. So is Phillip Green so was Robert Maxwell. Just being described as a business man does not qualify them to run a football club. Most of the idiots that go onto the apprentice describe themselves as businessmen but it doesn't mean a thing. Judge people by results
Roland -absentee owner of a football club
Katrien - a CEO in name only who has made such wonderful decisions as the ever improving manager line up and the fans sofa
Chris Powell - a highly respected football player turned manager. Achieved promotion from league one on a tiny percentage of the budget that has been wasted this season alone.

As I have said elsewhere - Roland may own the assets but we own the goodwill. His assets are diminished in value without the fans goodwill and he hasn't got mine.

Isawsummersplay

Sorry Pal, I have been a supporter for almost 60 years, and during that time thought I had seen it all - until this shower came along. They are a cancer that needs to be eradicated before it becomes terminal. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but I have to say I disagree with everything you have written. And, of course, you have written this to deliberately provoke a response.

eaststandmike

OAndyHunt said:

LargeAddick said:

God help us, there are none so blind as those that cannot see. Can only think that the OP is an ostrich.

Its you who can not see, things will get better, give them time.

How much time have you got in mind, when we are bottom of the National League. Could you also list me five positive changes you have "personally seen" please, your words, not mine.

bobmunro

LeaburnForEngland said:

Hmm... @OAndyHunt 's previous posts on the subject -

"I will 100% return when they go!"

"i agree with disgustedofdulwich If Roland still has the club next year i would love to see no one buy a season ticket at the Valley."

"lets sack Charlton off and all go to Bromley or Welling!"

So.... WUM or liquid lunch Friday?

No, East Kent member - he's been got at.

You wait, after the meeting Bromley have before the Coventry game Henry will be on here saying things like:

'Stand by Katrien - she knows what she's doing'
'Exterminate, exterminate .....'

And davo55 will turn into Davros.

stonemuse

Someone is trying to up their LOL count.

Not very well done to be honest.

Try again.

Scoham

I think we should listen to @OhAndyHunt, given that Powell as a player (last Charlton appearance in 2008) was before his time and Hunt's last game was in 2000. He clearly has access to some sort of time travelling device.

I assume therefore given his support of RD and KM he has found out that they eventually turn it around and take us back to the Premier League.

GreenWithEnvy

To the OP I am sorry to do this but A HA HA AHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAH AH HA AH HAH HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!

Redmidland

@OAndyHunt Firstly let me say welcome to the forum, and yes free speech is a given on here as far as I'm aware. With that said, and I hasten to add I'm not a member of CARD and I speak only for myself, KM is probably the worst CEO of any business I have ever come across. I have worked with and for one of the most powerful and richest (although this is not about money) people in Asia and certainly the world and I learnt from working with him and others that people, from all walks of life, will at sometime make mistakes. However I also learn't that its one thing to make 1 or 2 mistakes, but a whole host of them, especially in a position of CEO would and cant be tolerated. He would never have allowed any CEO to continue after the mistakes made by KM. I ask you to think about Gerald Ratner, he was CEO of a once large jewelry company called 'Ratners', you may have heard of them, but in one, just one, ill-judged comment he had to resign, he told a conference (sound familiar) that the goods his company sold were cheap because they were crap!!
Now lets look at some of KM's comments, well in fact lets not, I'm sure you are well aware of them. However in any other business she would have been dismissed or forced to resign for her ineptitude and lack of understanding.
It may well be that RD could have deflected some of the angst against him if he just had the gumption to realise that KM is not suited to a CEO/COO role in football and certainly not here.
Moving on to supporting the team, yes we all want to do that and for many many many years 1,000's have, but in the end you want to at least see a team trying to win and put in a performance, currently our incumbent manager RS is unable to deliver this and we are at our lowest point in about 90 years.
Whilst I continue to hope RS will get it right on the pitch, there are many things off the pitch which are wrong, most of which can be put down to a very poor SMT lead by KM.

I hope that explains why, as a personal voice, I would like to see KM now moved on, that way we might be able to rescue what is left of the club.

OAndyHunt

stonemuse said:

Someone is trying to up their LOL count.

Not very well done to be honest.

Try again.

Im genuinely trying to get behind the Club, all of you are a bunch of NEGATIVE NANCYS.

We don't all hate Katrien and Roland. And I don't think these marches will prove anything.

WSS

He's got a name like a fanny...

stonemuse

OAndyHunt said:

stonemuse said:

Someone is trying to up their LOL count.

Not very well done to be honest.

Try again.

Im genuinely trying to get behind the Club, all of you are a bunch of NEGATIVE NANCYS.

We don't all hate Katrien and Roland. And I don't think these marches will prove anything.

Oh shit, I gave him another LOL

OAndyHunt

Somebody asked me what positive changes she has made, and off the top of my head I cant think of any she has for the club, but for me personally, I was given a free season at an event and that's really changed my mind about her.