I am obviously in the minority on this one. I like the post Gabriel Genesis (loved the original stuff) and Phil's early solo work was ok. Genesis were the first band I saw live I think in 86.
I'd like to be as shit, talentless and poor as him.
Talentless? Hmm.
As a jazz/funk musician, I'm gonna have to disagree. His drumming is pretty much exactly what everyone wants - highly nuanced and developed sense of rhythm; great "groove"; responsive to other musicians; and some very very solid chops.
Not my choice - I much prefer Tony Williams; Buddy Rich; and Sput Searight (for a more modern flavour) - but a quality drummer.
His songwriting is also pretty on point - Sussudio is a solid tune with clear knowledge of harmony and theory, even though I don't think he was the guy behind the horn arrangements etc in the big band version (which, btw, is far superior to the pop version imo).
If he can't drum nowadays, though, then that's a bit gutting.
I'd like to be as shit, talentless and poor as him.
Talentless? Hmm.
As a jazz/funk musician, I'm gonna have to disagree. His drumming is pretty much exactly what everyone wants - highly nuanced and developed sense of rhythm; great "groove"; responsive to other musicians; and some very very solid chops.
Not my choice - I much prefer Tony Williams; Buddy Rich; and Sput Searight (for a more modern flavour) - but a quality drummer.
His songwriting is also pretty on point - Sussudio is a solid tune with clear knowledge of harmony and theory, even though I don't think he was the guy behind the horn arrangements etc in the big band version (which, btw, is far superior to the pop version imo).
If he can't drum nowadays, though, then that's a bit gutting.
I was being sarcastic.
Ah, fair. T'internet doesn't always put sarcasm across well!
After seeing him on The Jonathan Ross show on Saturday, I'm not convinced the gigs will happen. Phil Collins could hardly stand up & looked to be in a lot of pain hobbling around
Apparently old Phil has always been a bit "up himself".
One of my previous firms did work for Chelsea back in the Bates days. So the story goes Phil Collins turned up at the box office one day demanding tickets for a sold out game.
He was politely told all the tickets were sold and started giving it the old Charlie big potatoes - "Do you know who I am?" Etc and throwing a paddy.
He then comes out with, "I'm going to report you to the chairman. If Ken Bates were here now he would sort me out a ticket"
At which point Ken Bates, who was actually in the ticket office at the time and had heard everything, pops his head around the window and says, "No he wouldn't, fuck off!"
After seeing him on The Jonathan Ross show on Saturday, I'm not convinced the gigs will happen. Phil Collins could hardly stand up & looked to be in a lot of pain hobbling around
agree , i felt very sorry for him ...surely he cant need the money that much ...i would hope his health means more to him
Shame - I'm a big Phil Collins fan & probably in the minority by saying I prefer the post Gabriel Genesis - Trick of the Tail gets in my ALL TIME top 10 albums with Face Value & No Jacket Required getting into the top 25.
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He played (in the air tonight ) solo and his drumming was second to none
What can I say? I've sobbed many a drunken tear to that song........
One of my previous firms did work for Chelsea back in the Bates days. So the story goes Phil Collins turned up at the box office one day demanding tickets for a sold out game.
He was politely told all the tickets were sold and started giving it the old Charlie big potatoes - "Do you know who I am?" Etc and throwing a paddy.
He then comes out with, "I'm going to report you to the chairman. If Ken Bates were here now he would sort me out a ticket"
At which point Ken Bates, who was actually in the ticket office at the time and had heard everything, pops his head around the window and says, "No he wouldn't, fuck off!"
Phil and a bit of ABBA wrapped up together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p98PjtSfNWo
He came across as a bit of a twat & somewhat like the Wealdstone raider.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3417011/Frail-Phil-Collins-hobbles-Miami-walking-stick-continues-recovery-major-surgery-year.html