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Holmes out injured for 2 months?

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  • I think you have to take the fact that Port Vale were terrible into account. We might not have missed him at home to them but we may well miss him against Bradford, Sheff Utd and some of the better sides.

  • Ricky Holmes has the willingness to collect the ball and drive forwards, like my old hero Paddy Powell used to do.

    We'll miss his ability to create something out of nothing.




  • Worth remembering that this was the result of a deliberate challenge which our commentary boys said warranted at least a yellow, but went unpunished.

    Like so many injuries to Charlton players in the past, starting with Matty Holmes.

    There should be retrospective punishment for stuff like this but our precious referees won't countenance having any of their decisions reviewed, even though we would forgive things they miss due to human error, so long as the culprits are dealt with after video evidence.

    "Warranted" can be a matter of opinion, and the only one that counts it that of the referee.
    There is retrospective punishment, when the referee has not seen the incident.
    "Countenance" is absolutely nothing to do with the referee. It's the FA, having consulted other bodies such as the clubs, LMA, that determine reviews.

    That apart, the article is quite accurate :-)
  • Oggy Red said:


    Ricky Holmes has the willingness to collect the ball and drive forwards, like my old hero Paddy Powell used to do.

    We'll miss his ability to create something out of nothing.

    Haven't seen him play live yet, but from highlights and commentary he's struck me as the closest we have come to Andy Reid since he left - an attacking creative player who is not unwilling to help out the defence behind him, but comes alive when we have the ball and wants it all the time and when he has it wants to make things happen. Doesn't seem to overdo it often either - so many skillful players fall into the trap of wanting one more step over or to beat one more player, Ricky seems, from a far at least, to use his skill efficiently - beat the man as quickly as possible and as soon as a better placed teammate is available or shooting opportunity presents itself let the ball go.

    We've had far too few like that in my 30 years as an Addick.
  • Oggy Red said:


    Ricky Holmes has the willingness to collect the ball and drive forwards, like my old hero Paddy Powell used to do.

    We'll miss his ability to create something out of nothing.

    Haven't seen him play live yet, but from highlights and commentary he's struck me as the closest we have come to Andy Reid since he left - an attacking creative player who is not unwilling to help out the defence behind him, but comes alive when we have the ball and wants it all the time and when he has it wants to make things happen. Doesn't seem to overdo it often either - so many skillful players fall into the trap of wanting one more step over or to beat one more player, Ricky seems, from a far at least, to use his skill efficiently - beat the man as quickly as possible and as soon as a better placed teammate is available or shooting opportunity presents itself let the ball go.

    We've had far too few like that in my 30 years as an Addick.
    1) Do not invoke the name of the Irish Maradona unless it's fully warranted
    2) I think Reid had a far better range of passing than Holmes, and looked to exploit that. I think Holmes is a more natural winger, whereas by the time he got to us Reid was more of a creator (and scored some banging goals as well).

    I miss him. I have a build similar to his and always felt bad that people called him fat. Sometimes he was, but when you have that stocky build and Neanderthal chest (as I do) you always look fat!
  • Is he back yet :sweat_smile:
  • Dazzler21 said:

    Is he back yet :sweat_smile:

    I don't think so - maybe we should have a whip round and get him an appointment with drip doctors
  • Going by the below picture of Ricky Holmes at the Upbeats Christmas Party I'd say he's still a way off training seeing that he's still wearing a protected boot... So guessing he's not even started running or anything yet

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  • That's a great photo.
  • LoOkOuT said:

    That's a great photo.

    indeed .. and let's not overlook lovely Chris Solly looking as though he's having a good time
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  • Would really like him back for the Millwall game but that doesn't look likely.
  • Think that photo is at least three weeks old now.
  • Addickted said:

    Think that photo is at least three weeks old now.

    so what ?
  • Solly and Holme's both 5' 3
  • Dazzler21 said:

    Solly and Holme's both 5' 3

    lol .. according to wiki, both are 5' 8" .. but we can't let facts overrule the lyrics of a very popular chant .. after all, Solly is better than John Tereeeee .. at least at right back
  • cafc999 said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    Is he back yet :sweat_smile:

    I don't think so - maybe we should have a whip round and get him an appointment with drip doctors
    he'd be so knackered after a spell with the Barbies that his 'recovery' would be set back by three months .. if he were so lucky
  • edited December 2016
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  • Addickted said:

    Addickted said:

    Think that photo is at least three weeks old now.

    so what ?
    So he's likely to be out of the protective footwear by now.

    ah .. gotcha .. good spot .. I thought you were saying that it was just old news
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  • Calm down and think before you post Lincs , so aggressive , no wonder you're all over RJ
  • Calm down and think before you post Lincs , so aggressive , no wonder you're all over RJ

    pots and kettles old chap
  • Calm down and think before you post Lincs , so aggressive , no wonder you're all over RJ

    pots and kettles old chap
    Point of order Lincs. You surely can't be suggesting that oohaah is aggressive?

    Pessimistic, caustic and depressingly accurate, yes, but never aggressive.
  • edited January 2017

    Worth remembering that this was the result of a deliberate challenge which our commentary boys said warranted at least a yellow, but went unpunished.

    Like so many injuries to Charlton players in the past, starting with Matty Holmes.

    There should be retrospective punishment for stuff like this but our precious referees won't countenance having any of their decisions reviewed, even though we would forgive things they miss due to human error, so long as the culprits are dealt with after video evidence.

    I think this is a good point and one KR made is relation to Lookman in his post Southend interview. Referees at this level have to do their jobs better - they really do. It isn't Sunday league and if you can't set out to injure a player in the Premiership - which you can't - you shouldn't ref League One any differently. I think too many of our refs are a complete disgrace. I think this applies to the Championship too - I recall Plymouth trying to assault Todorov a few years back and the ref could have prevented the serious injury he sadly recieved in that game had he seen it. It was pretty obvious from the off. I don't think he even punished the defender for what was effectively an assault.

    I think it holds our football back. I want our games reffed the same as they are abroad. We need players to be able to develop in the lower leagues if we want success for this country.
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