Which county is Middlesborough FC in? Not Cleveland as far as I've searched. I may be wrong.
Their current Wiki page is informative
Middlesbrough F.C. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Not to be confused with Smog City A.F.C. Middlesbrough F.C. Middlesbrough Football Club Crest Full name Middlesbrough Football Club Nickname(s) The Boro, The Rapists Smoggies[1][2][3][4] Short name MFC, Boro, MID Founded 1876; 140 years ago Ground Riverside Stadium Capacity 33,746[5] Owner Steve Gibson Chairman Steve Gibson Head Coach Aitor Karanka League Premier League 2015–16 Championship, 2nd (promoted) Website Club home page
Home colours
Away colours Current season Middlesbrough Football Club (/ˈmɪdəlzbrə/) is a "professional football team" with no history, with rapista for fans and have absolutely nothing to their name apart from some shitty ground and a couple of nonce fans they have played at the Riverside Stadium since 1995,[6] their second ground since turning professional in 1889. They played at Ayresome Park for 92 years, from 1903 to 1995.
They were one of the founding members of the Premier League in 1992 and became one of the first clubs to be relegated from it following the 1992/93 season. The club's main rivals are Sunderland and Newcastle United. There is also a rivalry with fellow Yorkshire club Leeds United.[7]
N E Lincs has Grimsby N Lincs has Scunthorpe Lincs has ad Lincoln & Boston
You are just inventing counties now.....
no .. these are actual 'counties; hived off from Lincolnshire, just as Avon from Somerset, Tyne and Wear from Northumberland and Durham, the various Yorkshires converted from 'ridings', Greater Manchester from Lancashire, Greater London from the home counties and so on .. get up to date mate @A-R-T-H-U-R BUT ... if you're talking 'traditional counties' then I would agree .. but that omits Hull, as 'East Yorkshire' is also a recently manufactured county, converted from 'The East Riding of Yorkshire'
N E Lincs has Grimsby N Lincs has Scunthorpe Lincs has ad Lincoln & Boston
You are just inventing counties now.....
no .. these are actual 'counties; hived off from Lincolnshire, just as Avon from Somerset, Tyne and Wear from Northumberland and Durham, the various Yorkshires converted from 'ridings', Greater Manchester from Lancashire, Greater London from the home counties and so on .. get up to date mate @A-R-T-H-U-R BUT ... if you're talking 'traditional counties' then I would agree .. but that omits Hull, as 'East Yorkshire' is also a recently manufactured county, converted from 'The East Riding of Yorkshire'
Are you possibly confusing Unitory Authorities with actual counties?
N E Lincs has Grimsby N Lincs has Scunthorpe Lincs has ad Lincoln & Boston
You are just inventing counties now.....
no .. these are actual 'counties; hived off from Lincolnshire, just as Avon from Somerset, Tyne and Wear from Northumberland and Durham, the various Yorkshires converted from 'ridings', Greater Manchester from Lancashire, Greater London from the home counties and so on .. get up to date mate @A-R-T-H-U-R BUT ... if you're talking 'traditional counties' then I would agree .. but that omits Hull, as 'East Yorkshire' is also a recently manufactured county, converted from 'The East Riding of Yorkshire'
Are you possibly confusing Unitory Authorities with actual counties?
a county is a county is a county .. see this complicated but comprehensive wiki entry .. incidentally, the article mentions south and north Humberside .. now renamed East Yorkshire and N E Lincolnshire .. just an example of recent and probably unnoticed changes (who cares about it one may ask) This is why I asked the question of whether you were thinking of the old pre 1974 county structure ? .. things have moved on a lot since then
N E Lincs has Grimsby N Lincs has Scunthorpe Lincs has ad Lincoln & Boston
You are just inventing counties now.....
no .. these are actual 'counties; hived off from Lincolnshire, just as Avon from Somerset, Tyne and Wear from Northumberland and Durham, the various Yorkshires converted from 'ridings', Greater Manchester from Lancashire, Greater London from the home counties and so on .. get up to date mate @A-R-T-H-U-R BUT ... if you're talking 'traditional counties' then I would agree .. but that omits Hull, as 'East Yorkshire' is also a recently manufactured county, converted from 'The East Riding of Yorkshire'
Are you possibly confusing Unitory Authorities with actual counties?
a county is a county is a county .. see this complicated but comprehensive wiki entry .. incidentally, the article mentions south and north Humberside .. now renamed East Yorkshire and N E Lincolnshire .. just an example of recent and probably unnoticed changes (who cares about it one may ask) This is why I asked the question of whether you were thinking of the old pre 1974 county structure ? .. things have moved on a lot since then
Perhaps leave wiki alone, my entry showing Middlesboroughs page shows how it isn't always the best source. Go to any current ONS page and see what they call counties and what they call unitary authorities
Blimey, i have a new respect for pub quiz masters!.
N E Lincs has Grimsby N Lincs has Scunthorpe Lincs has ad Lincoln & Boston
You are just inventing counties now.....
no .. these are actual 'counties; hived off from Lincolnshire, just as Avon from Somerset, Tyne and Wear from Northumberland and Durham, the various Yorkshires converted from 'ridings', Greater Manchester from Lancashire, Greater London from the home counties and so on .. get up to date mate @A-R-T-H-U-R BUT ... if you're talking 'traditional counties' then I would agree .. but that omits Hull, as 'East Yorkshire' is also a recently manufactured county, converted from 'The East Riding of Yorkshire'
Are you possibly confusing Unitory Authorities with actual counties?
a county is a county is a county .. see this complicated but comprehensive wiki entry .. incidentally, the article mentions south and north Humberside .. now renamed East Yorkshire and N E Lincolnshire .. just an example of recent and probably unnoticed changes (who cares about it one may ask) This is why I asked the question of whether you were thinking of the old pre 1974 county structure ? .. things have moved on a lot since then
Perhaps leave wiki alone, my entry showing Middlesboroughs page shows how it isn't always the best source. Go to any current ONS page and see what they call counties and what they call unitary authorities
Blimey, i have a new respect for pub quiz masters!.
I know .. step into what looks a nice flat field and find you're in a quick sand .. excuse the florid analogy ((:>)
Presumably, you would have to count Middlesbrough Ironopolis as being in the same county as Middlesbrough. Mind you is Middlesbro in Teeside or North Yorkshire? Cleveland is, I think, defunct. Presumably, Middlesbrough Ironopolis were in Yorkshire at the time of their existence not North Yorkshire. Rule clarification needed!
I meant that where Palace are the cesspit of eternal damnation in South Norwood used to be part of Surrey before 1963? I'm not sure where exactly the London boundary was beforehand
yes - what's now Croydon Borough (and what's now Merton Borough which includes Wimbledon) were not part of the County of London that was formed in the 1890s and stayed in place until the Greater London Council was formed and the boroughs reorganised in the mid 60s.
With a few minor adjustments round the edges, what's now Wandsworth, Lambeth, Southwark, Lewisham, Greenwich were within the County of London - anything further out was either Kent or Surrey.
(as an aside, bits of North Woolwich were in the old Woolwich Borough and previously in Kent - but they got given to Newham borough in the 60s)
If I have to think about what's north of the river - the 1890s London boundary didn't include West Ham (Essex) or Tottenham (Middlesex).
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Which club is that then?
I think.
Not Cleveland as far as I've searched. I may be wrong.
Their current Wiki page is informative
Middlesbrough F.C.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Not to be confused with Smog City A.F.C.
Middlesbrough F.C.
Middlesbrough Football Club Crest
Full name Middlesbrough Football Club
Nickname(s) The Boro, The Rapists Smoggies[1][2][3][4]
Short name MFC, Boro, MID
Founded 1876; 140 years ago
Ground Riverside Stadium
Capacity 33,746[5]
Owner Steve Gibson
Chairman Steve Gibson
Head Coach Aitor Karanka
League Premier League
2015–16 Championship, 2nd (promoted)
Website Club home page
Home colours
Away colours
Current season
Middlesbrough Football Club (/ˈmɪdəlzbrə/) is a "professional football team" with no history, with rapista for fans and have absolutely nothing to their name apart from some shitty ground and a couple of nonce fans they have played at the Riverside Stadium since 1995,[6] their second ground since turning professional in 1889. They played at Ayresome Park for 92 years, from 1903 to 1995.
They were one of the founding members of the Premier League in 1992 and became one of the first clubs to be relegated from it following the 1992/93 season. The club's main rivals are Sunderland and Newcastle United. There is also a rivalry with fellow Yorkshire club Leeds United.[7]
Gwent is correct for 21.
And there is a bonus 22nd county with only one team!
Wrexham? Bloody ruins them.
But already in.
you are in the right area though!
Or South Glamorgan for Cardiff
Or Wiltshire for Sweden?
So because I cant add up, that may be 24 counties (21 English) with only one league team representing them.
So far Herefordshire and Worcestershire with only one team ever representing them, but to be honest I dont know the real answer to this perplexity.
BUT ... if you're talking 'traditional counties' then I would agree .. but that omits Hull, as 'East Yorkshire' is also a recently manufactured county, converted from 'The East Riding of Yorkshire'
This is why I asked the question of whether you were thinking of the old pre 1974 county structure ? .. things have moved on a lot since then
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counties_of_England
Go to any current ONS page and see what they call counties and what they call unitary authorities
Blimey, i have a new respect for pub quiz masters!.
Just found this, a bit out of date, list on the ONS website
Counties and Unitary Authorities
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20160105160709/http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/guide-method/geography/beginner-s-guide/administrative/england/counties--non-metropolitan-districts-and-unitary-authorities/map-of-the-uk-counties-and-unitary-administrations.pdf
With a few minor adjustments round the edges, what's now Wandsworth, Lambeth, Southwark, Lewisham, Greenwich were within the County of London - anything further out was either Kent or Surrey.
(as an aside, bits of North Woolwich were in the old Woolwich Borough and previously in Kent - but they got given to Newham borough in the 60s)
If I have to think about what's north of the river - the 1890s London boundary didn't include West Ham (Essex) or Tottenham (Middlesex).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_boroughs probably tells you more than you want to know...