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Charlton launches internal investigation over allegation of historical sexual abuse of former player
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Shocking if true.0
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When clubs sack a coach for this behaviour but not warn other clubs what is happening, will mean it could go on at any club. Why do senior management consider that sacking the person or as in the church, move them to another area, means they have done all they need to do. From the church, BBC and now football, to name the most famous cases, senior people know it happens but hope to sweep it under the carpet, this makes them just as guilty as the perpetrator, and if found to be the case should be prosecuted for aiding and abetting, after all, that is what it is.5
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Horrible, horrible story. I hope we can all keep harmful speculation off this thread, for everyone's sake.1
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Understandable that the club should make a statement, but it's very hard to see what an "internal" investigation could look at, given that the club itself has no records from that time and nobody who was involved then is part of the club now. indeed, it was a different company.15
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Is Eddie Heath still alive?
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I've posted various archive stuff on the other thread, which I'll bring here. He died in 1983.smudge7946 said:Is Eddie Heath still alive?
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He died in 1983.smudge7946 said:Is Eddie Heath still alive?
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Was going to ask the same thing. How exactly do they investigate it?Airman Brown said:Understandable that the club should make a statement, but it's very hard to see what an "internal" investigation could look at, given that the club itself has no records from that time and nobody who was involved then is part of the club now. indeed, it was a different company.
What i don't get is, this guy was sacked by Chelsea when Geoff Hurst was manager and suspected he was up to no good. One of their ex players has said "everyone knew he was a nonce". Now people obviously talk within football, so how was Heath then able to get a job at other clubs and with us?0 -
Ray Wilkins seemed pretty shocked and was still speaking highly of him even upto late last week.0
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...Heath I'm talking about0
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Am I right in thinking he worked under Lennie Lawrence and Eddie May at Charlton?0
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It will be interesting to see what this internal investigation achieves. The alleged perpetrator has been dead longer than most CAFC staff have been alive, very few if any staff will remember him and the club have changed ownership many times since.
Is the internal investigation over resignation-gate still on going?0 -
I think you're nitpicking unnecessarily over the term internal. It is the same club.Airman Brown said:Understandable that the club should make a statement, but it's very hard to see what an "internal" investigation could look at, given that the club itself has no records from that time and nobody who was involved then is part of the club now. indeed, it was a different company.
I just hope it's as thorough and open as victim(s) deserve. Considering there's nothing on the os/twitter it's not a great start.
On that note, I was impressed the Chelsea statement was addressed on motd last night.0 -
To be honest it might as well not be, given the records available, the turnover of staff and officials since 1983, and the people who have since died. It may be that the museum has something via Colin Cameron, but AFAIK the club wouldn't have anything at all. It wouldn't even know who worked there in 1983. The only way the club could investigate this is by interviewing third parties outside the organisation, which is presumably the job of the police or a wider inquiry. I'm not criticising the statement, I just don't think the person responsible will appreciate that there simply isn't anyone or anything under the club's control to look at. Maybe that's what it will determine.olster said:
I think you're nitpicking unnecessarily over the term internal. It is the same club.Airman Brown said:Understandable that the club should make a statement, but it's very hard to see what an "internal" investigation could look at, given that the club itself has no records from that time and nobody who was involved then is part of the club now. indeed, it was a different company.
I just hope it's as thorough and open as victim(s) deserve. Considering there's nothing on the os/twitter it's not a great start.
On that note, I was impressed the Chelsea statement was addressed on motd last night.2 -
But it is the same club, the same club where alleged sexual abuse took place and if it did, there needs to be an investigation.Airman Brown said:
To be honest it might as well not be, given the records available, the turnover of staff and officials since 1983, and the people who have since died. It may be that the museum has something via Colin Cameron, but AFAIK the club wouldn't have anything at all. It wouldn't even know who worked there in 1983. The only way the club could investigate this is by interviewing third parties outside the organisation, which is presumably the job of the police or a wider inquiry. I'm not criticising the statement, I just don't think the person responsible will appreciate that there simply isn't anyone or anything under the club's control to look at. Maybe that's what it will determine.olster said:
I think you're nitpicking unnecessarily over the term internal. It is the same club.Airman Brown said:Understandable that the club should make a statement, but it's very hard to see what an "internal" investigation could look at, given that the club itself has no records from that time and nobody who was involved then is part of the club now. indeed, it was a different company.
I just hope it's as thorough and open as victim(s) deserve. Considering there's nothing on the os/twitter it's not a great start.
On that note, I was impressed the Chelsea statement was addressed on motd last night.
The fact that there has been staff turnover since then is immaterial; they can't all be dead and those people who worked with Heath need to be interviewed for Russel Harvey's sake if nothing else.
To not do so would be inexcusable.
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Yes to Lennie, although if he'd been there three years, he can't have been recruited by LL, who arrived in 1982. At the time, the youth set-up reported to the manager. These days it reports to the chief exec, and has since 1998 under academy rules.sammy391 said:Am I right in thinking he worked under Lennie Lawrence and Eddie May at Charlton?
So it looks as if Heath was appointed by either Mike Bailey or Alan Mullery, who took over in 1981. He also appears he worked at Millwall after leaving Chelsea, which must have been quite brief. So one question is why he left Millwall.0 -
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That's what I would imagine.Airman Brown said:Maybe that's what it will determine.
You may well be more aware of what is/isn't available then those writing the statement, but I could hardly imagine them not saying anything or looking to pass off any responsibility to the police/authorities immediately.
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Fair enough.olster said:
That's what I would imagine.Airman Brown said:Maybe that's what it will determine.
You may well be more aware of what is/isn't available then those writing the statement, but I could hardly imagine them not saying anything or looking to pass off any responsibility to the police/authorities immediately.0 -
I believe we 'headhunted' him from Millwall. He took a few players with him to Charlton. I have a few old mates who played under him at both clubs.0
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Interesting. I have found no reference to him at Charlton before 1982.ChicagoAddick said:I believe we 'headhunted' him from Millwall. He took a few players with him to Charlton. I have a few old mates who played under him at both clubs.
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I think we should close this blog...so we/the club don't jeopardisy evidence against the alledge..let the authorities now investigate and get the xxxx (sorry to swear)0
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Bit difficult, seeing as he died 33 years ago.1
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Was thinking exactly the same....something very wrong.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Was going to ask the same thing. How exactly do they investigate it?Airman Brown said:Understandable that the club should make a statement, but it's very hard to see what an "internal" investigation could look at, given that the club itself has no records from that time and nobody who was involved then is part of the club now. indeed, it was a different company.
What i don't get is, this guy was sacked by Chelsea when Geoff Hurst was manager and suspected he was up to no good. One of their ex players has said "everyone knew he was a nonce". Now people obviously talk within football, so how was Heath then able to get a job at other clubs and with us?0 -
They can try to find out what happened then, was it known about or reported/covered up and do the current policies prevent it happening again.
Has this been on the OS yet?1 -
Lead story on BBC local news in the SE - Tory MP for Folkestone, who is chair of the DCMS select committee, says Charlton can't investigate themselves. In fairness to him, looked like the BBC SE had been struggling to find someone to comment.0
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Paul Collins was on BBC 5 Live with Adrian Chiles this morning about 12.20 - there's an extended interview with him on the 5 Live website.0
