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One sided local derbies

CAFCTrev
CAFCTrev Posts: 5,991
in General Charlton
It seems that most of the famous derbies only have maybe a 10 or 11 game win difference at worst. Millwall have won 24 more games then us which is insane, and in the world of football must be some kind of anomaly. As far as I know even our derbies against the nigels and most other London teams of a similar size to us are far more even (maybe not Fulham).

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  • twiggyaddick
    twiggyaddick Posts: 1,565
    Nigel at work reckons their record against millwall is not much better than ours, said it is just something about them......

    I am getting pity from a Nigel, stop the world I want to get off
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    I think Chelsea always seem to come out on top against Spurs, or draw..
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,782
    Our record against Palarse is also bloody terrible.
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,027
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:

    I think Chelsea always seem to come out on top against Spurs, or draw..

    and I was in a really good mood this morning until you mentioned that.
    Sat, 10th Feb 1990.

    Grrrr.

    Christ, I think we've managed to win once at Highbury and once at the Cameldome since then too.

    Spursy :)

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,575
    So have just gone through some of the obvious Derbies from the below link...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports_rivalries_in_the_United_Kingdom#Central

    Only one game is worse than ours which is pretty understanding between the gulf in money that Chelsea (they've won 41 times) have compared to Fulham (have only won on nine occasions)

    You've then got the following games which have just one or two games in it...

    Brentford (21) v QPR (22)
    Peterborough (11) v Cambridge (10)
    Rochdale (15) v Bury (16)
    Blackburn Rovers (38) v Burnley (36)
    Bolton Wanderers (12) v Wigan Athletic (13)
    Chesterfield (25) v Mansfield (26)
    Stoke (16) v Port Vale (13)

    And even the rest there isnt much between the sides:

    Everton (57) v Liverpool (75)
    Man City (44) v Man Utd (61)
    Arsenal (64) v Tottenham (50)
    Sunderland (47) v Newcastle (51)
    Watford (25) v Luton (32)
    West Ham (8) v Millwall (5)
    Crystal Palace (32) v Brighton (35)
    Oxford (11) v Swindon (21)
    Norwich (32) v Ipswich (35)
    Colchester (23) v Southend (27)
    Cardiff (19) v Swansea (21)
    Portsmouth (8) v Southampton (14)
    Bristol City (24) v Bristol Rovers (34)
    Preston North End (38) v Blackpool (30)
    Sheffield Wednesday (36) v Sheffield United (42)
    Huddersfield (18) v Oldham Athletic (10)
    Accrington (15) v Morcambe (4)
    Birmingham (36) v Aston Villa (45)
    Coventry (23) v Leicester (36)
    Nottingham Forest (35) v Notts County (28)
    Nottingham Forest (36) v Derby County (32)
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,105
    twiggyaddick said:

    Nigel at work reckons their record against millwall is not much better than ours, said it is just something about them......

    I am getting pity from a Nigel, stop the world I want to get off

    Going by soccerbase, We've won 15% of our games vs Millwall. Palace have won 30% of games vs Millwall.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,685
    What's our record like against Welling?
  • Boysie
    Boysie Posts: 701
    ForeverAddickted said:

    So have just gone through some of the obvious Derbies from the below link...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports_rivalries_in_the_United_Kingdom#Central

    Only one game is worse than ours which is pretty understanding between the gulf in money that Chelsea (they've won 41 times) have compared to Fulham (have only won on nine occasions)

    You've then got the following games which have just one or two games in it...

    Brentford (21) v QPR (22)
    Peterborough (11) v Cambridge (10)
    Rochdale (15) v Bury (16)
    Blackburn Rovers (38) v Burnley (36)
    Bolton Wanderers (12) v Wigan Athletic (13)
    Chesterfield (25) v Mansfield (26)
    Stoke (16) v Port Vale (13)

    And even the rest there isnt much between the sides:

    Everton (57) v Liverpool (75)
    Man City (44) v Man Utd (61)
    Arsenal (64) v Tottenham (50)
    Sunderland (47) v Newcastle (51)
    Watford (25) v Luton (32)
    West Ham (8) v Millwall (5)
    Crystal Palace (32) v Brighton (35)
    Oxford (11) v Swindon (21)
    Norwich (32) v Ipswich (35)
    Colchester (23) v Southend (27)
    Cardiff (19) v Swansea (21)
    Portsmouth (8) v Southampton (14)
    Bristol City (24) v Bristol Rovers (34)
    Preston North End (38) v Blackpool (30)
    Sheffield Wednesday (36) v Sheffield United (42)
    Huddersfield (18) v Oldham Athletic (10)
    Accrington (15) v Morcambe (4)
    Birmingham (36) v Aston Villa (45)
    Coventry (23) v Leicester (36)
    Nottingham Forest (35) v Notts County (28)
    Nottingham Forest (36) v Derby County (32)


    Huddersfield v Oldham ???
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,575
    Millwall (34) v Crystal Palace (26) in terms of League matches...
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,157
    edited December 2016
    Boysie said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    So have just gone through some of the obvious Derbies from the below link...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports_rivalries_in_the_United_Kingdom#Central

    Only one game is worse than ours which is pretty understanding between the gulf in money that Chelsea (they've won 41 times) have compared to Fulham (have only won on nine occasions)

    You've then got the following games which have just one or two games in it...

    Brentford (21) v QPR (22)
    Peterborough (11) v Cambridge (10)
    Rochdale (15) v Bury (16)
    Blackburn Rovers (38) v Burnley (36)
    Bolton Wanderers (12) v Wigan Athletic (13)
    Chesterfield (25) v Mansfield (26)
    Stoke (16) v Port Vale (13)

    And even the rest there isnt much between the sides:

    Everton (57) v Liverpool (75)
    Man City (44) v Man Utd (61)
    Arsenal (64) v Tottenham (50)
    Sunderland (47) v Newcastle (51)
    Watford (25) v Luton (32)
    West Ham (8) v Millwall (5)
    Crystal Palace (32) v Brighton (35)
    Oxford (11) v Swindon (21)
    Norwich (32) v Ipswich (35)
    Colchester (23) v Southend (27)
    Cardiff (19) v Swansea (21)
    Portsmouth (8) v Southampton (14)
    Bristol City (24) v Bristol Rovers (34)
    Preston North End (38) v Blackpool (30)
    Sheffield Wednesday (36) v Sheffield United (42)
    Huddersfield (18) v Oldham Athletic (10)
    Accrington (15) v Morcambe (4)
    Birmingham (36) v Aston Villa (45)
    Coventry (23) v Leicester (36)
    Nottingham Forest (35) v Notts County (28)
    Nottingham Forest (36) v Derby County (32)


    Huddersfield v Oldham ???
    Well if Palace v Brighton counts... :wink:

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  • SheffieldRed
    SheffieldRed Posts: 3,772
    Boysie said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    So have just gone through some of the obvious Derbies from the below link...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports_rivalries_in_the_United_Kingdom#Central

    Only one game is worse than ours which is pretty understanding between the gulf in money that Chelsea (they've won 41 times) have compared to Fulham (have only won on nine occasions)

    You've then got the following games which have just one or two games in it...

    Brentford (21) v QPR (22)
    Peterborough (11) v Cambridge (10)
    Rochdale (15) v Bury (16)
    Blackburn Rovers (38) v Burnley (36)
    Bolton Wanderers (12) v Wigan Athletic (13)
    Chesterfield (25) v Mansfield (26)
    Stoke (16) v Port Vale (13)

    And even the rest there isnt much between the sides:

    Everton (57) v Liverpool (75)
    Man City (44) v Man Utd (61)
    Arsenal (64) v Tottenham (50)
    Sunderland (47) v Newcastle (51)
    Watford (25) v Luton (32)
    West Ham (8) v Millwall (5)
    Crystal Palace (32) v Brighton (35)
    Oxford (11) v Swindon (21)
    Norwich (32) v Ipswich (35)
    Colchester (23) v Southend (27)
    Cardiff (19) v Swansea (21)
    Portsmouth (8) v Southampton (14)
    Bristol City (24) v Bristol Rovers (34)
    Preston North End (38) v Blackpool (30)
    Sheffield Wednesday (36) v Sheffield United (42)
    Huddersfield (18) v Oldham Athletic (10)
    Accrington (15) v Morcambe (4)
    Birmingham (36) v Aston Villa (45)
    Coventry (23) v Leicester (36)
    Nottingham Forest (35) v Notts County (28)
    Nottingham Forest (36) v Derby County (32)


    Huddersfield v Oldham ???
    El Pennine Classico
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,349
    stackitsteve said:

    twiggyaddick said:

    Nigel at work reckons their record against millwall is not much better than ours, said it is just something about them......

    I am getting pity from a Nigel, stop the world I want to get off

    Going by soccerbase, We've won 15% of our games vs Millwall. Palace have won 30% of games vs Millwall.
    In the last 20 years we've played palace 14 times, in which they've only won twice. Prior to that they had a really good spell v us. Ten or so years they seemed to beat us every time we played, usually by some flukey goal when we had totally dominated. It was during this period I developed my ingrained hatred for all things stripey.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,632
    Anybody know the exact statistic for this fixture ?
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Anybody know the exact statistic for this fixture ?

    3-1 to Millwank

    ; )
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,105
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Anybody know the exact statistic for this fixture ?

    http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/head_to_head.sd?team_id=527&team2_id=1699
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,105
    The last 4 seasons we've played Millwall we've had 1 defeat and 1 draw each time. So a draw in a few weeks time looks nailed on.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,366
    We both have eleven
    We both play on grass
    A match made in Heaven?
    No. a pain in the arse!
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,047
    Well at least we won't be the worst as i can't imagine Espanyol or Torino do too well v Barca and Juve.

    However for sides on a relatively level playing field, it's simply bizarre how our record is so bad.

    Aside from Kim grant in the snow and John Hendry at Upton park, i can't think of too many other victories i've seen v them.

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