Best XI Roland Signings
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Rudd
Foley | Bauer | Teixeira | Chicksen
Gudmundsson | Buyens | Bulot
Vetokele | Magennis | Holmes0 -
4-3-3
Rudd
Tex....Ben Haim...Bauer...Chicksen*
...Buyens....Diarra...Coquelin
JBG.....Magennis....Bulot**
*Could see this being Page in a month or two
**Unlucky on Igor to miss out. We took a promising, athletically gifted young player and may have destroyed his career.1 -
RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):
1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien
2 Astrit Ajdarevic
3 Reza Ghoochannejhad
4 Loic Nego
5 Piotr Parzyszek
6 Marcus Tudgay
7 Davide Petrucci
8 Stephen Henderson
9 Tal Ben-Haim
10 Andre Bikey-Amougou
11 Johann Berg Gudmundsson
12 Yoni Buyens
13 Igor Vetokele
14 George Tucudean
15 Franck Moussa
16 Frederic Bulot
17 Francis Coquelin
18 Oguchi Onyewu
19 Neil Etheridge
20 Tony Watt
21 Marko Dmitrovic
22 Milos Veljkovic
23 Christophe Lepoint
24 Roger Johnson
25 Chris Eagles
26 Alou Diarra
27 Patrick Bauer
28 Ahmed Kashi
29 El-Hadji Ba
30 Simon Makienok
31 Zakarya Bergdich
32 Cristian Ceballos
33 Naby Sarr
34 Conor McAleny
35 Ricardo Vaz Te
36 Rhys Williams
37 Jorge Teixeira
38 Yaya Sanogo
39 Marco Motta
40 Rod Fanni
41 Yun Suk-Young
42 Declan Rudd
43 Kevin Foley
44 Andrew Crofts
45 Nicky Ajose
46 Ricky Holmes
47 Jason Pearce
48 Lee Novak
49 Josh Magennis
50 Jordan Botaka
51 Adam Chicksen
52 Fredrick Ulvestad
53 Lewis Page
54 Nathan Byrne
55 Jay Desilva
56 Jake Forster-Caskey8 -
For every good player in that list, there are uncountable s*** ones.Callumcafc said:RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):
1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien
2 Astrit Ajdarevic
3 Reza Ghoochannejhad
4 Loic Nego
5 Piotr Parzyszek
6 Marcus Tudgay
7 Davide Petrucci
8 Stephen Henderson
9 Tal Ben-Haim
10 Andre Bikey-Amougou
11 Johann Berg Gudmundsson
12 Yoni Buyens
13 Igor Vetokele
14 George Tucudean
15 Franck Moussa
16 Frederic Bulot
17 Francis Coquelin
18 Oguchi Onyewu
19 Neil Etheridge
20 Tony Watt
21 Marko Dmitrovic
22 Milos Veljkovic
23 Christophe Lepoint
24 Roger Johnson
25 Chris Eagles
26 Alou Diarra
27 Patrick Bauer
28 Ahmed Kashi
29 El-Hadji Ba
30 Simon Makienok
31 Zakarya Bergdich
32 Cristian Ceballos
33 Naby Sarr
34 Conor McAleny
35 Ricardo Vaz Te
36 Rhys Williams
37 Jorge Teixeira
38 Yaya Sanogo
39 Marco Motta
40 Rod Fanni
41 Yun Suk-Young
42 Declan Rudd
43 Kevin Foley
44 Andrew Crofts
45 Nicky Ajose
46 Ricky Holmes
47 Jason Pearce
48 Lee Novak
49 Josh Magennis
50 Jordan Botaka
51 Adam Chicksen
52 Fredrick Ulvestad
53 Lewis Page
54 Nathan Byrne
55 Jay Desilva
56 Jake Forster-Caskey
Uncountable.1 -
Mate, there's only 56 in total. It's only uncountable if there's less than three good players and you can't manage without using your fingers and your toes. Just say numerous, that'd do.10
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There's certainly at least twototal shore players for every half decent player. And that's even counting bikey as a half decent player0
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Seeing that really does highlight the level of incompetence demonstrated by Katrien Miere/RolyCallumcafc said:RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):
1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien
2 Astrit Ajdarevic
3 Reza Ghoochannejhad
4 Loic Nego
5 Piotr Parzyszek
6 Marcus Tudgay
7 Davide Petrucci
8 Stephen Henderson
9 Tal Ben-Haim
10 Andre Bikey-Amougou
11 Johann Berg Gudmundsson
12 Yoni Buyens
13 Igor Vetokele
14 George Tucudean
15 Franck Moussa
16 Frederic Bulot
17 Francis Coquelin
18 Oguchi Onyewu
19 Neil Etheridge
20 Tony Watt
21 Marko Dmitrovic
22 Milos Veljkovic
23 Christophe Lepoint
24 Roger Johnson
25 Chris Eagles
26 Alou Diarra
27 Patrick Bauer
28 Ahmed Kashi
29 El-Hadji Ba
30 Simon Makienok
31 Zakarya Bergdich
32 Cristian Ceballos
33 Naby Sarr
34 Conor McAleny
35 Ricardo Vaz Te
36 Rhys Williams
37 Jorge Teixeira
38 Yaya Sanogo
39 Marco Motta
40 Rod Fanni
41 Yun Suk-Young
42 Declan Rudd
43 Kevin Foley
44 Andrew Crofts
45 Nicky Ajose
46 Ricky Holmes
47 Jason Pearce
48 Lee Novak
49 Josh Magennis
50 Jordan Botaka
51 Adam Chicksen
52 Fredrick Ulvestad
53 Lewis Page
54 Nathan Byrne
55 Jay Desilva
56 Jake Forster-Caskey2 -
That's incredible. By my count that's 18 of 56 still with the club (excluding those out on loan and including Kashi), and 13 of which were signed for this season. A horrendous report on the club's transfer business under Duchatalet's short tenure.Callumcafc said:RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):
1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien
2 Astrit Ajdarevic
3 Reza Ghoochannejhad
4 Loic Nego
5 Piotr Parzyszek
6 Marcus Tudgay
7 Davide Petrucci
8 Stephen Henderson
9 Tal Ben-Haim
10 Andre Bikey-Amougou
11 Johann Berg Gudmundsson
12 Yoni Buyens
13 Igor Vetokele
14 George Tucudean
15 Franck Moussa
16 Frederic Bulot
17 Francis Coquelin
18 Oguchi Onyewu
19 Neil Etheridge
20 Tony Watt
21 Marko Dmitrovic
22 Milos Veljkovic
23 Christophe Lepoint
24 Roger Johnson
25 Chris Eagles
26 Alou Diarra
27 Patrick Bauer
28 Ahmed Kashi
29 El-Hadji Ba
30 Simon Makienok
31 Zakarya Bergdich
32 Cristian Ceballos
33 Naby Sarr
34 Conor McAleny
35 Ricardo Vaz Te
36 Rhys Williams
37 Jorge Teixeira
38 Yaya Sanogo
39 Marco Motta
40 Rod Fanni
41 Yun Suk-Young
42 Declan Rudd
43 Kevin Foley
44 Andrew Crofts
45 Nicky Ajose
46 Ricky Holmes
47 Jason Pearce
48 Lee Novak
49 Josh Magennis
50 Jordan Botaka
51 Adam Chicksen
52 Fredrick Ulvestad
53 Lewis Page
54 Nathan Byrne
55 Jay Desilva
56 Jake Forster-Caskey
And we bloody signed Roger Johnson twice.2 -
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Foley --- Bauer ---- Teixeira --- Chicksen
------Coquelin --- Diarra/Kashi
JBG --------- Holmes --------- Bulot
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I've basically gone through it and highlighted who I think had/has been good, taking into account length of time they've been here/played. I left out the last 4 as they are new arrivals.Callumcafc said:RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):
1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien - no
2 Astrit Ajdarevic - yes
3 Reza - no
4 Loic Nego - no
5 Piotr Parzyszek - no
6 Marcus Tudgay - no
7 Davide Petrucci - no
8 Stephen Henderson - yes
9 Tal Ben-Haim - yes
10 Andre Bikey-Amougu - no
11 Johann Berg Gudmundson - yes
12 Yoni Buyens - yes
13 Igor Vetokele - no
14 George Tucudean - no
15 Franck Moussa - no
16 Frederic Bulot - yes
17 Francis Coquelin - yes
18 Oguchi Onyewu - no
19 Neil Etheridge - yes
20 Tony Watt - no
21 Marko Dmitrovic - no
22 Milos Veljokic - no
23 Christophe Lepoint - no
24 Roger Johnson - no
25 Chris Eagles - no
26 Alou Diarra - yes
27 Patrick Bauer - yes
28 Ahmed Kashi - no
29 El-Hadji Ba - no
30 Simon Makienok - no
31 Zakarya Bergdich - no
32 Cristian Ceballos - no
33 Naby Sarr - no
34 Conor McAleny - no
35 Ricardo Vaz Te - no
36 Rhys Williams - no
37 Jorge Teixeira - yes
38 Yaya Sanogo - no
39 Marco Motta - yes
40 Rod Fanni - yes
41 Yun Suk-Young - yes
42 Declan Rudd - yes
43 Kevin Foley - no
44 Andrew Crofts - yes
45 Nicky Ajose - no
46 Ricky Holmes - yes
47 Jason Pearce - yes
48 Lee Novak - no
49 Josh Magennis - yes
50 Jordan Botaka - no
51 Adam Chicksen - yes
52 Fredrick Ulvestad - no
53 Lewis Page
54 Nathan Byrne
55 Jay Desilva
56 Jake Forster-Caskey
With players like Vetokele being a no, it doesn't mean I don't think they're a good player, it's more have we had good value over the life of that player's contract. One half a season is nowhere enough. I know he got injured, but if it had been handled the right way then he would be an option for us this season. These are simply my metrics, but in total that's 32 no's and 20 yes'
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The amazing thing about Callum's list is the sheer number of players who I can remember very little about. I was a season ticket holder up until this summer, so I really ought to know about the majority of them. But for many, the fleeting nature of their appearances combined with a keen inbuilt psychological defence mechanism means that all I have is a vague recollection that, 'that name sounds a bit familiar'.6
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I honestly reckon Fanni was probably the best of the bunch, him or Johann.0
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Johann was without the best... How we got him on a Free Transfer I'll never knowcafc_harry said:I honestly reckon Fanni was probably the best of the bunch, him or Johann.
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Rudd
Fanni Teixeira TBH Chicksen
JBG Buyens Kashi Bulot
Igor Magennis
A decent team that, though a bit misleading as with the massive turnover of players we've gone through 2 squads worth in 3 years...
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An expensive catalogue of cack.Callumcafc said:RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):
1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien
2 Astrit Ajdarevic
3 Reza Ghoochannejhad
4 Loic Nego
5 Piotr Parzyszek
6 Marcus Tudgay
7 Davide Petrucci
8 Stephen Henderson
9 Tal Ben-Haim
10 Andre Bikey-Amougou
11 Johann Berg Gudmundsson
12 Yoni Buyens
13 Igor Vetokele
14 George Tucudean
15 Franck Moussa
16 Frederic Bulot
17 Francis Coquelin
18 Oguchi Onyewu
19 Neil Etheridge
20 Tony Watt
21 Marko Dmitrovic
22 Milos Veljkovic
23 Christophe Lepoint
24 Roger Johnson
25 Chris Eagles
26 Alou Diarra
27 Patrick Bauer
28 Ahmed Kashi
29 El-Hadji Ba
30 Simon Makienok
31 Zakarya Bergdich
32 Cristian Ceballos
33 Naby Sarr
34 Conor McAleny
35 Ricardo Vaz Te
36 Rhys Williams
37 Jorge Teixeira
38 Yaya Sanogo
39 Marco Motta
40 Rod Fanni
41 Yun Suk-Young
42 Declan Rudd
43 Kevin Foley
44 Andrew Crofts
45 Nicky Ajose
46 Ricky Holmes
47 Jason Pearce
48 Lee Novak
49 Josh Magennis
50 Jordan Botaka
51 Adam Chicksen
52 Fredrick Ulvestad
53 Lewis Page
54 Nathan Byrne
55 Jay Desilva
56 Jake Forster-Caskey2 -
Where's Koc ? I've been looking for Koc without any joy.1
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I'd put Diarra in the team ahead of TBH but otherwise that is a decent championship side that could challenge for promotion.killerandflash said:Rudd
Fanni Teixeira TBH Chicksen
JBG Buyens Kashi Bulot
Igor Magennis
A decent team that, though a bit misleading as with the massive turnover of players we've gone through 2 squads worth in 3 years...3 -
I'll do this for permanent signings only....
Henderson
Teixeira TBH Bauer
JBG Diarra Kashi Chicksen
Holmes Watt
Magennis
Bench: Dmitrovic, Pearce, Bikey, Page, Crofts, JFC, Vetokele
A bit light on bench attacking options but really not bad3 -
Lack of proven left back means I'm going 3-5-2 (maybe in a few months I'll be able to have Page or Chicksen in but not yet).
Henderson
Fanni TBH Tex
JBG Diarra Kashi Adjarevic Bulot
Vetokele Watt
Subs; Rudd Motta Suk Buyens Bauer Magennis Holmes0 -
4-4-2
Rudd
Fanni TBH Tex Chicksen
JBG Diarra Buyens Bulot
Igor(non broken version) Magennis
Worst 11
Thuram-Ulien
Nego Williams Sarr Bergdich
McAleny LePoint Ba Moussa
Reza Polish Pete0 -
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Perhaps some might disagree with one or two but that's not the point. What becomes strikingly obvious from the list in this format, is the all the "no"s from 28-36 inclusive.cabbles said:
I've basically gone through it and highlighted who I think had/has been good, taking into account length of time they've been here/played. I left out the last 4 as they are new arrivals.Callumcafc said:RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):
1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien - no
2 Astrit Ajdarevic - yes
3 Reza - no
4 Loic Nego - no
5 Piotr Parzyszek - no
6 Marcus Tudgay - no
7 Davide Petrucci - no
8 Stephen Henderson - yes
9 Tal Ben-Haim - yes
10 Andre Bikey-Amougu - no
11 Johann Berg Gudmundson - yes
12 Yoni Buyens - yes
13 Igor Vetokele - no
14 George Tucudean - no
15 Franck Moussa - no
16 Frederic Bulot - yes
17 Francis Coquelin - yes
18 Oguchi Onyewu - no
19 Neil Etheridge - yes
20 Tony Watt - no
21 Marko Dmitrovic - no
22 Milos Veljokic - no
23 Christophe Lepoint - no
24 Roger Johnson - no
25 Chris Eagles - no
26 Alou Diarra - yes
27 Patrick Bauer - yes
28 Ahmed Kashi - no
29 El-Hadji Ba - no
30 Simon Makienok - no
31 Zakarya Bergdich - no
32 Cristian Ceballos - no
33 Naby Sarr - no
34 Conor McAleny - no
35 Ricardo Vaz Te - no
36 Rhys Williams - no
37 Jorge Teixeira - yes
38 Yaya Sanogo - no
39 Marco Motta - yes
40 Rod Fanni - yes
41 Yun Suk-Young - yes
42 Declan Rudd - yes
43 Kevin Foley - no
44 Andrew Crofts - yes
45 Nicky Ajose - no
46 Ricky Holmes - yes
47 Jason Pearce - yes
48 Lee Novak - no
49 Josh Magennis - yes
50 Jordan Botaka - no
51 Adam Chicksen - yes
52 Fredrick Ulvestad - no
53 Lewis Page
54 Nathan Byrne
55 Jay Desilva
56 Jake Forster-Caskey
With players like Vetokele being a no, it doesn't mean I don't think they're a good player, it's more have we had good value over the life of that player's contract. One half a season is nowhere enough. I know he got injured, but if it had been handled the right way then he would be an option for us this season. These are simply my metrics, but in total that's 32 no's and 20 yes'
And then all of the "yes"s from 37 on.
What changed?
Quite simply Riga returned and his initial comments featured this understatement "we need to make less mistakes when signing players"
Between Riga and Slade they stabilised things and we now have Robinson making a few changes.
The last six games are unbeaten and we are on two points a game with Magennis back soon. Let's not kid ourselves about how this season might end but it does appear that we have followed Riga's advice. And that's before we assess the final four on the list, three of whom have great promise.
Let's see what the squad looks like in August.2 -
Rudd, Fanni, Tex, Bauer, TBH, JBG, Buyens, Coq, Bulot, Ajdarevic, Vetokele1
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I truly believe it will be lop sided and mal nourishedseriously_red said:
Perhaps some might disagree with one or two but that's not the point. What becomes strikingly obvious from the list in this format, is the all the "no"s from 28-36 inclusive.cabbles said:
I've basically gone through it and highlighted who I think had/has been good, taking into account length of time they've been here/played. I left out the last 4 as they are new arrivals.Callumcafc said:RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):
1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien - no
2 Astrit Ajdarevic - yes
3 Reza - no
4 Loic Nego - no
5 Piotr Parzyszek - no
6 Marcus Tudgay - no
7 Davide Petrucci - no
8 Stephen Henderson - yes
9 Tal Ben-Haim - yes
10 Andre Bikey-Amougu - no
11 Johann Berg Gudmundson - yes
12 Yoni Buyens - yes
13 Igor Vetokele - no
14 George Tucudean - no
15 Franck Moussa - no
16 Frederic Bulot - yes
17 Francis Coquelin - yes
18 Oguchi Onyewu - no
19 Neil Etheridge - yes
20 Tony Watt - no
21 Marko Dmitrovic - no
22 Milos Veljokic - no
23 Christophe Lepoint - no
24 Roger Johnson - no
25 Chris Eagles - no
26 Alou Diarra - yes
27 Patrick Bauer - yes
28 Ahmed Kashi - no
29 El-Hadji Ba - no
30 Simon Makienok - no
31 Zakarya Bergdich - no
32 Cristian Ceballos - no
33 Naby Sarr - no
34 Conor McAleny - no
35 Ricardo Vaz Te - no
36 Rhys Williams - no
37 Jorge Teixeira - yes
38 Yaya Sanogo - no
39 Marco Motta - yes
40 Rod Fanni - yes
41 Yun Suk-Young - yes
42 Declan Rudd - yes
43 Kevin Foley - no
44 Andrew Crofts - yes
45 Nicky Ajose - no
46 Ricky Holmes - yes
47 Jason Pearce - yes
48 Lee Novak - no
49 Josh Magennis - yes
50 Jordan Botaka - no
51 Adam Chicksen - yes
52 Fredrick Ulvestad - no
53 Lewis Page
54 Nathan Byrne
55 Jay Desilva
56 Jake Forster-Caskey
With players like Vetokele being a no, it doesn't mean I don't think they're a good player, it's more have we had good value over the life of that player's contract. One half a season is nowhere enough. I know he got injured, but if it had been handled the right way then he would be an option for us this season. These are simply my metrics, but in total that's 32 no's and 20 yes'
And then all of the "yes"s from 37 on.
What changed?
Quite simply Riga returned and his initial comments featured this understatement "we need to make less mistakes when signing players"
Between Riga and Slade they stabilised things and we now have Robinson making a few changes.
The last six games are unbeaten and we are on two points a game with Magennis back soon. Let's not kid ourselves about how this season might end but it does appear that we have followed Riga's advice. And that's before we assess the final four on the list, three of whom have great promise.
Let's see what the squad looks like in August.
I think RD's will to put anything substantial in this summer will be minimal2 -
28 of the 56 played 20 or fewer games, with 11 playing 5 or less. Of the 56 players, only JBG, Yoni Buyens and Igor have so far got into double figures with goals.Callumcafc said:RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):
1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien - Time at Club - 4 months - number of games - 4
2 Astrit Ajdarevic - 4 momths - 15(2 goals)
3 Reza Ghoochannejhad - 29 months - 38(3goals)
4 Loic Nego - 19 months - 1 game
5 Piotr Parzyszek - 24 months - 1 game
6 Marcus Tudgay - 1 month - 2 games
7 Davide Petrucci - 2 months - 5 games
8 Stephen Henderson - 24 months - 54 games
9 Tal Ben-Haim - 10 months - 37 games
10 Andre Bikey-Amougou - 15 months - 34(1 goal)
11 Johann Berg Gudmundsson - 24 months - 86 (17 goals)
12 Yoni Buyens - 11 months - 40 (8 goals)
13 Igor Vetokele - 24 months - 61 (12 goals)
14 George Tucudean - 24 months - 20 (2 goals)
15 Franck Moussa - 19 months - 19 (1 goal)
16 Frederic Bulot - 9 months - 28 (5 goals)
17 Francis Coquelin - 1 months - 5 games
18 Oguchi Onyewu - 7 months - 3 games
19 Neil Etheridge - 6 months - 2 games
20 Tony Watt - 24 months - 40 (8 goals)
21 Marko Dmitrovic - 18 months - 5 games
22 Milos Veljkovic - 1 month - 3 games
23 Christophe Lepoint - 6 months - 6 games
24 Roger Johnson - 12 months - 12 games
25 Chris Eagles - 3 months - 15 (2 goals)
26 Alou Diarra - 17 months - 45 (1 goal)
27 Patrick Bauer - 18 months - 45 (4 goals)
28 Ahmed Kashi - 17 months - 13 (2 goals)
29 El-Hadji Ba - 18 months - 28 games
30 Simon Makienok - 10 months - 37 (5 goals)
31 Zakarya Bergdich - 13 months - 16 games
32 Cristian Ceballos - 13 months - 7 games
33 Naby Sarr - 11 months - 16 (1 goal)
34 Conor McAleny - 2 months - 6 games
35 Ricardo Vaz Te - 2 months - 7 games
36 Rhys Williams - 1 month - 3 games
37 Jorge Teixeira - 18 months - 30 (3 goals)
38 Yaya Sanogo - 3 months - 8 (3 goals)
39 Marco Motta - 3 months - 12 (1 goal)
40 Rod Fanni - 3 months - 14 games
41 Yun Suk-Young - 3 months - 9 games
42 Declan Rudd - 6 months - 22 game
43 Kevin Foley - 5 months - 19 games
44 Andrew Crofts - 7 months - 34 (1 goal)
45 Nicky Ajose - 8 months - 28(7 goals)
46 Ricky Holmes - 8 months - 20 (4 goals)
47 Jason Pearce - 6 months - 18 games
48 Lee Novak - 8 months - 22 (2 goals)
49 Josh Magennis - 6 months - 26 (8 goals)
50 Jordan Botaka - 6 months - 18 games
51 Adam Chicksen - 6 months - 17 (2 goals)
52 Fredrick Ulvestad - 6 months - 23 (1 goal)
53 Lewis Page
54 Nathan Byrne
55 Jay Desilva
56 Jake Forster-Caskey1 -
I'd buy this - and the subs would be: Henderson, Suk-Young, Pearce, Ajdareic, Diarra, Ghoochannejhad and WattI-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:Rudd, Fanni, Tex, Bauer, TBH, JBG, Buyens, Coq, Bulot, Ajdarevic, Vetokele
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Ah..........delete Ajdarevis from the subs and replace with Holmes :-)simonmatthews said:
I'd buy this - and the subs would be: Henderson, Suk-Young, Pearce, Ajdareic, Diarra, Ghoochannejhad and WattI-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:Rudd, Fanni, Tex, Bauer, TBH, JBG, Buyens, Coq, Bulot, Ajdarevic, Vetokele
56 new players in 3 years. Blimey: bit different from the time we'd have 3-4 per season at best.0 -
That list reads like Headstones in the cementary that is Charlton Athletic football club.
So depressing, bad results are no problem, but this complete lack of respect from some fucking scum bag just makes my blood boil, how much more can we suffer?
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Ghoochannejhad. Really?simonmatthews said:
I'd buy this - and the subs would be: Henderson, Suk-Young, Pearce, Ajdareic, Diarra, Ghoochannejhad and WattI-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:Rudd, Fanni, Tex, Bauer, TBH, JBG, Buyens, Coq, Bulot, Ajdarevic, Vetokele
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What are you hoping/expecting to be different? Under RD it has always been the same - some good individuals, 1 or 2 players short and a feeling that there are too many young and inexperienced players.seriously_red said:
Perhaps some might disagree with one or two but that's not the point. What becomes strikingly obvious from the list in this format, is the all the "no"s from 28-36 inclusive.cabbles said:
I've basically gone through it and highlighted who I think had/has been good, taking into account length of time they've been here/played. I left out the last 4 as they are new arrivals.Callumcafc said:RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):
1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien - no
2 Astrit Ajdarevic - yes
3 Reza - no
4 Loic Nego - no
5 Piotr Parzyszek - no
6 Marcus Tudgay - no
7 Davide Petrucci - no
8 Stephen Henderson - yes
9 Tal Ben-Haim - yes
10 Andre Bikey-Amougu - no
11 Johann Berg Gudmundson - yes
12 Yoni Buyens - yes
13 Igor Vetokele - no
14 George Tucudean - no
15 Franck Moussa - no
16 Frederic Bulot - yes
17 Francis Coquelin - yes
18 Oguchi Onyewu - no
19 Neil Etheridge - yes
20 Tony Watt - no
21 Marko Dmitrovic - no
22 Milos Veljokic - no
23 Christophe Lepoint - no
24 Roger Johnson - no
25 Chris Eagles - no
26 Alou Diarra - yes
27 Patrick Bauer - yes
28 Ahmed Kashi - no
29 El-Hadji Ba - no
30 Simon Makienok - no
31 Zakarya Bergdich - no
32 Cristian Ceballos - no
33 Naby Sarr - no
34 Conor McAleny - no
35 Ricardo Vaz Te - no
36 Rhys Williams - no
37 Jorge Teixeira - yes
38 Yaya Sanogo - no
39 Marco Motta - yes
40 Rod Fanni - yes
41 Yun Suk-Young - yes
42 Declan Rudd - yes
43 Kevin Foley - no
44 Andrew Crofts - yes
45 Nicky Ajose - no
46 Ricky Holmes - yes
47 Jason Pearce - yes
48 Lee Novak - no
49 Josh Magennis - yes
50 Jordan Botaka - no
51 Adam Chicksen - yes
52 Fredrick Ulvestad - no
53 Lewis Page
54 Nathan Byrne
55 Jay Desilva
56 Jake Forster-Caskey
With players like Vetokele being a no, it doesn't mean I don't think they're a good player, it's more have we had good value over the life of that player's contract. One half a season is nowhere enough. I know he got injured, but if it had been handled the right way then he would be an option for us this season. These are simply my metrics, but in total that's 32 no's and 20 yes'
And then all of the "yes"s from 37 on.
What changed?
Quite simply Riga returned and his initial comments featured this understatement "we need to make less mistakes when signing players"
Between Riga and Slade they stabilised things and we now have Robinson making a few changes.
The last six games are unbeaten and we are on two points a game with Magennis back soon. Let's not kid ourselves about how this season might end but it does appear that we have followed Riga's advice. And that's before we assess the final four on the list, three of whom have great promise.
Let's see what the squad looks like in August.
It's always about hope rather than expectation that it'll all come together.1 -
He didn't say August of which year tbf.Scoham said:
What are you hoping/expecting to be different? Under RD it has always been the same - some good individuals, 1 or 2 players short and a feeling that there are too many young and inexperienced players.seriously_red said:
Perhaps some might disagree with one or two but that's not the point. What becomes strikingly obvious from the list in this format, is the all the "no"s from 28-36 inclusive.cabbles said:
I've basically gone through it and highlighted who I think had/has been good, taking into account length of time they've been here/played. I left out the last 4 as they are new arrivals.Callumcafc said:RD signings ordered by debut (therefore doesn't include Anil Koc or others who didn't get any minutes):
1 Yohann Thuram-Ulien - no
2 Astrit Ajdarevic - yes
3 Reza - no
4 Loic Nego - no
5 Piotr Parzyszek - no
6 Marcus Tudgay - no
7 Davide Petrucci - no
8 Stephen Henderson - yes
9 Tal Ben-Haim - yes
10 Andre Bikey-Amougu - no
11 Johann Berg Gudmundson - yes
12 Yoni Buyens - yes
13 Igor Vetokele - no
14 George Tucudean - no
15 Franck Moussa - no
16 Frederic Bulot - yes
17 Francis Coquelin - yes
18 Oguchi Onyewu - no
19 Neil Etheridge - yes
20 Tony Watt - no
21 Marko Dmitrovic - no
22 Milos Veljokic - no
23 Christophe Lepoint - no
24 Roger Johnson - no
25 Chris Eagles - no
26 Alou Diarra - yes
27 Patrick Bauer - yes
28 Ahmed Kashi - no
29 El-Hadji Ba - no
30 Simon Makienok - no
31 Zakarya Bergdich - no
32 Cristian Ceballos - no
33 Naby Sarr - no
34 Conor McAleny - no
35 Ricardo Vaz Te - no
36 Rhys Williams - no
37 Jorge Teixeira - yes
38 Yaya Sanogo - no
39 Marco Motta - yes
40 Rod Fanni - yes
41 Yun Suk-Young - yes
42 Declan Rudd - yes
43 Kevin Foley - no
44 Andrew Crofts - yes
45 Nicky Ajose - no
46 Ricky Holmes - yes
47 Jason Pearce - yes
48 Lee Novak - no
49 Josh Magennis - yes
50 Jordan Botaka - no
51 Adam Chicksen - yes
52 Fredrick Ulvestad - no
53 Lewis Page
54 Nathan Byrne
55 Jay Desilva
56 Jake Forster-Caskey
With players like Vetokele being a no, it doesn't mean I don't think they're a good player, it's more have we had good value over the life of that player's contract. One half a season is nowhere enough. I know he got injured, but if it had been handled the right way then he would be an option for us this season. These are simply my metrics, but in total that's 32 no's and 20 yes'
And then all of the "yes"s from 37 on.
What changed?
Quite simply Riga returned and his initial comments featured this understatement "we need to make less mistakes when signing players"
Between Riga and Slade they stabilised things and we now have Robinson making a few changes.
The last six games are unbeaten and we are on two points a game with Magennis back soon. Let's not kid ourselves about how this season might end but it does appear that we have followed Riga's advice. And that's before we assess the final four on the list, three of whom have great promise.
Let's see what the squad looks like in August.
It's always about hope rather than expectation that it'll all come together.2
