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cabin crew to taser unruly passengers

letthegoodtimesrollletthegoodtimesroll
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According to an article I've been reading. Anyway, as this site is the font of all wisdom and total bollox, I was wondering, I take it as it's basically delivering an electric shock, should the person being tasered who, will no doubt be in the cramped space that is an aeroplane cabin, be touching somebody close by at the time then wont that person also get tasered ? And if that is the case, wouldn't using the taser in economy risk taking out 3 or 4 passengers ?

Also, as it's an oxygen/alcohol rich environment, is there not a danger of explosion ?

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  • NomadicAddickNomadicAddick
    Talking of total bollox...
  • LeuthLeuth
    Taser works by firing two spikes into you at high speed. Current passes between the two spikes. It's unlikely to be earthed through more than one person, even if their skins are touching.

    Anyway, this seems a bad idea because tasers are a bad idea
  • DRAddickDRAddick
    edited February 2017
    No, others touching the person tasered will not get shocked. The electric current only travels through the persons body in a line between the two metal probes (Same as a defibrillator). I s'pose if one probe went into one person and the second probe went into another it whilst they were holding tightly onto each other then in theory both being shocked is possible. But the probes will have been fired from such close range that the probes won't spread far enough apart to hit two people.

    I don't think oxygen levels on airplanes are significantly dangerous enough to cause an explosion. Indeed Stun guns have apparently already been used on airplanes successfully.

    Yes in theory flammable liquids can be set alight by a taser but it would have to be pure/ extremely high % alcohol which isn't going to be on an airplane. Hitting someones in flight beverage isn't going to do anything other than make the probes wet.

  • letthegoodtimesrollletthegoodtimesroll
    NomadicAddick said:

    Talking of total bollox...

    ...and up you pop ?
  • letthegoodtimesrollletthegoodtimesroll
    edited February 2017
    DRAddick said:

    No, others touching the person tasered will not get shocked. The electric current only travels through the persons body in a line between the two metal probes (Same as a defibrillator). I s'pose if one probe went into one person and the second probe went into another it whilst they were holding tightly onto each other then in theory both being shocked is possible. But the probes will have been fired from such close range that the probes won't spread far enough apart to hit two people.

    I don't think oxygen levels on airplanes are significantly dangerous enough to cause an explosion. Indeed Stun guns have apparently already been used on airplanes successfully.

    Yes in theory flammable liquids can be set alight by a taser but it would have to be pure/ extremely high % alcohol which isn't going to be on an airplane. Hitting someones in flight beverage isn't going to do anything other than make the probes wet.

    Re defibrillators, if the current can't pass from one person to another, why is it (on TV at least) the person who is about to give the shock says 'clear' to those around them ?
  • DRAddickDRAddick
    edited February 2017
    letthegoodtimesroll said:

    DRAddick said:

    No, others touching the person tasered will not get shocked. The electric current only travels through the persons body in a line between the two metal probes (Same as a defibrillator). I s'pose if one probe went into one person and the second probe went into another it whilst they were holding tightly onto each other then in theory both being shocked is possible. But the probes will have been fired from such close range that the probes won't spread far enough apart to hit two people.

    I don't think oxygen levels on airplanes are significantly dangerous enough to cause an explosion. Indeed Stun guns have apparently already been used on airplanes successfully.

    Yes in theory flammable liquids can be set alight by a taser but it would have to be pure/ extremely high % alcohol which isn't going to be on an airplane. Hitting someones in flight beverage isn't going to do anything other than make the probes wet.

    Re defibrillators, if the current can't pass from one person to another, why is it (on TV at least) the weapon who is about to give the shock says 'clear' to those around them ?
    Didn't say it couldn't, just that it is highly unlikely. It's good practice to make sure someone isn't touching the patient between the two pads where the electricity is passing which increases the risk of the second person getting a shock. Also the second person may be wearing metals which could increase the risk of secondary shock. Just as an important a reason is that In the case of a difribulater it is a sensitive computer that is constantly monitoring the persons heart rhythm and someone else touching can (again a small chance) effect the reading of the machine if it picks up the other persons heart rhythm too. (Edit - Please note I'm only talking about the defibs used in the street. I have no knowledge or experience of the ones used in hospitals. I'd imagine they're a lot more powerful).
  • letthegoodtimesrollletthegoodtimesroll
    DRAddick said:

    letthegoodtimesroll said:

    DRAddick said:

    No, others touching the person tasered will not get shocked. The electric current only travels through the persons body in a line between the two metal probes (Same as a defibrillator). I s'pose if one probe went into one person and the second probe went into another it whilst they were holding tightly onto each other then in theory both being shocked is possible. But the probes will have been fired from such close range that the probes won't spread far enough apart to hit two people.

    I don't think oxygen levels on airplanes are significantly dangerous enough to cause an explosion. Indeed Stun guns have apparently already been used on airplanes successfully.

    Yes in theory flammable liquids can be set alight by a taser but it would have to be pure/ extremely high % alcohol which isn't going to be on an airplane. Hitting someones in flight beverage isn't going to do anything other than make the probes wet.

    Re defibrillators, if the current can't pass from one person to another, why is it (on TV at least) the weapon who is about to give the shock says 'clear' to those around them ?
    Didn't say it couldn't, just that it is highly unlikely. It's good practice to make sure someone isn't touching the patient between the two pads where the electricity is passing which increases the risk of the second person getting a shock. Also the second person may be wearing metals which could increase the risk of secondary shock. Just as an important a reason is that In the case of a difribulater it is a computer that is constantly monitoring the persons heart rhythm and someone else touching can (again a small chance) effect the reading of the machine if it picks up the other persons heart rhythm too.
    Great answers, thanks for that
  • LincsaddickLincsaddick
    tasers on stun Mr Spock
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  • Powell Is PleasantPowell Is Pleasant
    @DRAddick you might be talking total rubbish, but you say it with such authority, I simply have to believe you.
  • letthegoodtimesrollletthegoodtimesroll
    Powell Is Pleasant said:

    @DRAddick you might be talking total rubbish, but you say it with such authority, I simply have to believe you.

    Perhaps DRAddick is actually representative of Doctor Addick and not somebody with a Dartford postcode as I've always assumed
  • Covered EndCovered End
    DA = Dartford.
  • blackpool72blackpool72
    DR =dresdon
  • jimmymelrosejimmymelrose
    My children are unruly. At least this will help a bit.
  • ElfsborgAddickElfsborgAddick
    Looks like Otto will have to behave on the flight back from Amsterdam then.
  • ForeverAddicktedForeverAddickted
    What happens though if they taser someone who isnt that well

    Tasers can easily kill if you've not got a strong heart?
  • Big_Bad_WorldBig_Bad_World
    ForeverAddickted said:

    What happens though if they taser someone who isnt that well

    Tasers can easily kill if you've not got a strong heart?

    It'll teach others who aren't well not to act like complete members on a flight.
  • NomadicAddickNomadicAddick
    letthegoodtimesroll said:

    NomadicAddick said:

    Talking of total bollox...

    ...and up you pop ?
    God you're boring.
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  • charltonkestoncharltonkeston
    letthegoodtimesroll said:

    According to an article I've been reading. Anyway, as this site is the font of all wisdom and total bollox, I was wondering, I take it as it's basically delivering an electric shock, should the person being tasered who, will no doubt be in the cramped space that is an aeroplane cabin, be touching somebody close by at the time then wont that person also get tasered ? And if that is the case, wouldn't using the taser in economy risk taking out 3 or 4 passengers ?

    Also, as it's an oxygen/alcohol rich environment, is there not a danger of explosion ?

    Least line of resistance, the current flows from one barb to the other. So its very unlikely for others to get a bolt.
    Its not oxygen rich in an aircraft, it will be about the same or less as it is on the ground. The cabin is pressurised but not to the same as ground level, I think it is the equivalent to a few thousand feet. That why the tea tastes shite, the water is not hot enough.
  • LincsaddickLincsaddick
    A suitable case for a good tasering or two ?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38899472
  • sralansralan
    If you fly with Ryanair expect an electric bill to follow the tazing :-)
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