Genuinely scared of relegation now. This could easily turn into a slide we can't arrest. Ohh the irony if our terrible form is what keeps Russell Slade's Coventry up.
If it doesn't happen this season it could easily next. Especially with the Chris O'laughable Thomas Driesen dream team overseeing our summer transfer business
Wasn't there .. was surprised at the selection .. Botaka scores for the first time in a blue moon on Saturday .. so leave him out .. Watt puts in a good shift on Saturday .. so leave him out .. we were dire at Oldham, decent at Rochdale and presumably rubbish tonight although the BBC stats indicate quite an even game .. that's the last chance for a play off spot gone, Oxford could well push on to get in the top six .. I just hope that for the rest of the season the squad does not down tools .. there are a lot of games to play and the paying customers deserves some respect and reward for watching some of the rubbish laid before them this season Robinson ? .. shut the fuck up or resign .. put more effort into getting the team in decent order and less in talking a load of stream of conscience tosh which is embarrassing for you and infuriates all who have to listen to it ..
I wonder what show will be put on against Bury and Shrewsbury, teams who are making a decent fist against relegation .. don't forget to tune in folks
Decided to stay in and vote with my feet tonight. Last home league game I missed was Spurs in Apr 2007, so nearly ten years. I really enjoyed the Man City v Monaco game on BT, so didn't miss it at all.
Although I'm included in the official attendance, the club will know the true attendance and the number of season ticket stayaways. Last seasons stay-aways became this seasons lapsed season ticket holders, so they will be getting an indication on how many more will not renew next season. If they are bothered, which I very much doubt, they have been served notice. The Restaurant hasn't moved, but the food is shite, the service is shite and the atmosphere is shite, so customers are dwindling away. I wouldn't be surprised if there are cockroaches in the kitchen.
Can the true attendance be disclosed by a FOI request?
Sadly not from the club, as they are not a public authority and, so, not covered by the legislation.
If, however, the Metropolitan Police are informed of the actual attendance by the club, and they "hold" a record of this, then a request can be made to them. I'd be very surprised if they could justifiably withhold the information if they did hold it. I may be being overly optimistic that they will hold this information, but I would have thought it was needed for security and health and safety reasons.
If someone was really cunning, they could make a request for all attendances from the start of the 2013-2014 season, it'd be interesting to plot a graph of the regime's success.
If that cunning person was involved with other supporters' groups, they might consider making a suggestion that it be the kind of information (for all football grounds) that should be made available under Open Data (I think the website to look at would be www.data.gov.uk)
I would imagine that the Police and also the Ambulance service (who have an officer and I believe a radio operator in the control room) would need to know should an incident happen while the gates are open.
Genuinely scared of relegation now. This could easily turn into a slide we can't arrest. Ohh the irony if our terrible form is what keeps Russell Slade's Coventry up.
If it doesn't happen this season it could easily next. Especially with the Chris O'laughable Thomas Driesen dream team overseeing our summer transfer business
It might not happen this year, although it's not out of the question, but with Roland as owner it's just a matter of time.
The system KR insists on is not working, we did look slightly better when he did eventually changed to 424 until Solly was sent off.
I've decided Baur is shit, the whole team is not worthy of wearing the shirt other than Mivididi or whatever his name is. Have we got anybody with any bottle, strength or a brain in the team.
F of Roland and take Daisy and the scouser with you , clueless the lot of them.
We got exactly what we deserved tonight - nothing. Oxford were always sharper than us and controlled the game whereas we kept giving the ball away and couldn't string 2 passes together. I don't particularly want to see KR go, as we need some stability, but we can't keep playing like this and if we lose again on Saturday I think he's in real trouble. We seem to have some fight away from home, but at the Valley we are a soft touch. 5 wins out of 16 is disgraceful. I'm just thankful we have 42 points and should be OK but long term prospects are hardly encouraging.
Witless prick manager stuffing the team with shameless charlatan passengers. Which is precisely what the owner deserves. Our problem is we pay to attend in the hope it might be different.
If last Tuesday was 'the enlightenment', I shall call tonight 'purgatory by the shutters'
As per my pre match prediction where both heart and head said 1-1, I was destroyed when come the final whistle Bauer's header had been cleared off the line and we only have 14 games left in which to secure 6 draws and beat the current club record for the season.
On top of this I'm now beginning to worry whether or not this consolidationist movement started by Slade can be finished by KR? We look anxiously over our shoulders now and it is imperative we get to 50 pts as quickly as possible (ideally with 9 draws).
I must remind everyone of a lifer's post match comments this time last week. The insightful soul said we have 3 month's of nothingness to manouvere. I will not see a late collapse and 3 pts from 15 threaten what was seemingly a pointless end to the season......
PS @leuth I look forward to your Alice in Wonderland take on how that little spell between the 55th - 60th minute when Mavididi hit the post as sufficient for us to all just get behind the team ;-)
We look disjointed becuause half of our team have barely played for us. We are supposed to heading for promotion and have five or six players in the 14 who have played under 10 games for the club and some who have not played together at all and it really showed this evening. How can we succeed with that many new players? Although it is not an excuse, a lack of togetherness is a potential reason for a team not being at it, but what really made for our defeat tonight was a lack of desire-Oxford wanted it much more than us and I would love to know what Robinson says about that.
The only players I would give any credit are Holmes, Solly and Mavidi. Crofts and the rest of the defence tried their best but the former can't play in a two man midfield and the more I see them the more I think that Tex and Bauer aren't actually that great. The jury is obviously out on Page.
The only good thing from tonight is that I can't think of a single reason to go on Saturday (or again this season!) so will get some extra time with my daughters.
Crofts should be paying everyone £5 if they attend on Saturday. Worst performance ever. Our pass success rate to Oxford players was higher than to our own team.
The lack of discipline amongst our players is alarming and it's all brought on by the little mistakes they make. Solly should know better, Forster Caskey looked like he could have been on edge and again Holmes lost the ball a couple of times and looks like he was going to take his anger out on one of the opposition. We were outplayed pretty much for most of the game tonight. I am struggling to keep my composure I am so f***** off. The owners need to sell and soon.
Can't wait to hear from KR how it was all the refs fault. Or maybe the players. Will he go full Pardew and blame the fans? Or maybe he will make us all love him by blaming Roland!
Long to Josh, they clear, Tex heads it badly and another throw in to them. It's like the pitch is leaning, like that scene in Flash Gordon when the floor moves around.
Byrn brings it forward to Crofts, he ventures forward, nice ball but doesnt work. They clear. They keep trying to find Martinez and keep failing. Josh was nearly through just now but not quite.
Oxford keep winning second balls. JFC wins a header, they keep getting it back. Josh gets it bac, to Byrne, back to solly, down the line to Crofts, into the box, crosses, but they clear. Just.
Official attendance is 9k!!!!
Perfectly understandable. Four thousand came through the turnstiles, realised how crap we would be and left immediately.
We were looking much better before Solly's ridiculous challenge tbf!
First-half display was shocking, though - disjointed and inept. We still had the better of the chances in the game and we really can't catch a break at the moment, but it wasn't pretty.
We just need something to fly in off someone's arse. It's all a bit cursed and miserable at present. Our players passing to each other would be nice too.
Had to go through charlton tonight to see a relative at queen Elizabeth got the 486 from 02 and went through charlton about 6.45ish unless I was a charlton fan I would not know there was a game on tonight, smattering of people walking about more like commuters and pubs were empty, we've had shit managers before but this jumped up little fucker think he's good that's the problem. I'm sick of his bullshit comments and the players have to have some blame?, haven't seen it but sounds like a stupid red by Chris which isn't what we need, watt is getting pelted despite having good marks in the games he's played since coming back, playoffs as always aren't over but I think we have more chance of being involved in a relegation scrap tbh, the club is dwindling and it's fucking sad I remember not too many years ago the streets would be busy, the pubs would be busy but all gone now cheers Roland you massive cock, hope people come back once he's gone, but I think a lot won't people get used to not going and do other stuff.
What makes it worse is that the weekend cup game must have taken it out of Oxford, yet they've come here tonight, rested a few players, but still got their heads up and played as a collective unit and won the contest and the game.
Three of us sat in the Oak after handing out leaflets, thanks to everyone who accepted them. We couldn't bring ourselves to go to the game.
A depressingly small number of fans were going to the game. Many people attending today are still interested in the protests and believe they are necessary even if they cannot commit to Belgium.
I don't think we should lose sight of how rotten this regime is, how the same process is followed at every club Duchatelet owns.
Work the assets, develop the property, cut the club staff, cut the playing staff, arrive at comfortable unambitious mediocrity.
Fail to make minor investments in quality of food, staff, players that make their money back.
Lose more money. Make more cuts.
The results are a symptom of this approach. You cannot treat symptoms indefinitely, you need a diagnosis and a cure.
The diagnosis is Duchatelet is bad for football and bad for Charlton. The cure would be for him to sell.
If it wasn't so tragic, it would be laughable. But is is so tragic and it's not laughable, it's a total disgrace.
How many games do we have left to win eleven of? How many sendings off this season, and under Karl ('I want to see more fouling') Robinson? How many other teams actually look like a team even allowing for their limitations? Why was Holmes played inside and Mavididi wide? Why did Solly go in so recklessly? Why do the players no longer appear interested?
Oxford scored a great goal, and we were unlucky with hitting the woodwork twice, but we were still very poor. It says something when the referee had a better game than the best of our players barring one high challenge that he didn't give on Solly (shortly before Solly got his three match ban dismissal).
I have already got my tickets for Saturday, but will also go to Belgium. There is no way on earth tonights abject experience can be blamed on protestors, indeed i was sitting through all that thinking how much better we have played on protest days.
Karl Robinson wants the fans to have a team they can be proud of, then again Theresa May wants a frictionless border in Ireland, wanting is not the same as delivering. To have a team we can be proud of lets start by having an actual team, even one we can be ashamed of if you like.
We have at our club, and I suspect in all areas of club operation football and non football, individuals looking after individual interests. The protesting fans, and even the anti-CARD fans have more of a collective spirit than those involved at the club.
Our banner is tattered and torn in the mud, the staff is shattered and shortened, and by god we need a brave soul to lift it in the sky again and give us something to rally round.
If we sell 1000 season tickets next season under this lot I will be amazed....then again it is still mathematically possible to reach the play offs!
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He must be pissed off and want to get out of it so what is the purpose of him still being here?
It's not even about Karl Robinson - it doesn't matter who the manager is really while this cancerous owner remains at the club.
If it doesn't happen this season it could easily next. Especially with the Chris O'laughable Thomas Driesen dream team overseeing our summer transfer business
that's the last chance for a play off spot gone, Oxford could well push on to get in the top six ..
I just hope that for the rest of the season the squad does not down tools .. there are a lot of games to play and the paying customers deserves some respect and reward for watching some of the rubbish laid before them this season
Robinson ? .. shut the fuck up or resign .. put more effort into getting the team in decent order and less in talking a load of stream of conscience tosh which is embarrassing for you and infuriates all who have to listen to it ..
I wonder what show will be put on against Bury and Shrewsbury, teams who are making a decent fist against relegation .. don't forget to tune in folks
The system KR insists on is not working, we did look slightly better when he did eventually changed to 424 until Solly was sent off.
I've decided Baur is shit, the whole team is not worthy of wearing the shirt other than Mivididi or whatever his name is. Have we got anybody with any bottle, strength or a brain in the team.
F of Roland and take Daisy and the scouser with you , clueless the lot of them.
As per my pre match prediction where both heart and head said 1-1, I was destroyed when come the final whistle Bauer's header had been cleared off the line and we only have 14 games left in which to secure 6 draws and beat the current club record for the season.
On top of this I'm now beginning to worry whether or not this consolidationist movement started by Slade can be finished by KR? We look anxiously over our shoulders now and it is imperative we get to 50 pts as quickly as possible (ideally with 9 draws).
I must remind everyone of a lifer's post match comments this time last week. The insightful soul said we have 3 month's of nothingness to manouvere. I will not see a late collapse and 3 pts from 15 threaten what was seemingly a pointless end to the season......
PS @leuth I look forward to your Alice in Wonderland take on how that little spell between the 55th - 60th minute when Mavididi hit the post as sufficient for us to all just get behind the team ;-)
Although it is not an excuse, a lack of togetherness is a potential reason for a team not being at it, but what really made for our defeat tonight was a lack of desire-Oxford wanted it much more than us and I would love to know what Robinson says about that.
The only players I would give any credit are Holmes, Solly and Mavidi. Crofts and the rest of the defence tried their best but the former can't play in a two man midfield and the more I see them the more I think that Tex and Bauer aren't actually that great. The jury is obviously out on Page.
The only good thing from tonight is that I can't think of a single reason to go on Saturday (or again this season!) so will get some extra time with my daughters.
First-half display was shocking, though - disjointed and inept. We still had the better of the chances in the game and we really can't catch a break at the moment, but it wasn't pretty.
We just need something to fly in off someone's arse. It's all a bit cursed and miserable at present. Our players passing to each other would be nice too.
A depressingly small number of fans were going to the game. Many people attending today are still interested in the protests and believe they are necessary even if they cannot commit to Belgium.
I don't think we should lose sight of how rotten this regime is, how the same process is followed at every club Duchatelet owns.
Work the assets, develop the property, cut the club staff, cut the playing staff, arrive at comfortable unambitious mediocrity.
Fail to make minor investments in quality of food, staff, players that make their money back.
Lose more money. Make more cuts.
The results are a symptom of this approach. You cannot treat symptoms indefinitely, you need a diagnosis and a cure.
The diagnosis is Duchatelet is bad for football and bad for Charlton. The cure would be for him to sell.
If it wasn't so tragic, it would be laughable. But is is so tragic and it's not laughable, it's a total disgrace.
How many games do we have left to win eleven of?
How many sendings off this season, and under Karl ('I want to see more fouling') Robinson?
How many other teams actually look like a team even allowing for their limitations?
Why was Holmes played inside and Mavididi wide?
Why did Solly go in so recklessly?
Why do the players no longer appear interested?
Oxford scored a great goal, and we were unlucky with hitting the woodwork twice, but we were still very poor.
It says something when the referee had a better game than the best of our players barring one high challenge that he didn't give on Solly (shortly before Solly got his three match ban dismissal).
I have already got my tickets for Saturday, but will also go to Belgium.
There is no way on earth tonights abject experience can be blamed on protestors, indeed i was sitting through all that thinking how much better we have played on protest days.
Karl Robinson wants the fans to have a team they can be proud of, then again Theresa May wants a frictionless border in Ireland, wanting is not the same as delivering. To have a team we can be proud of lets start by having an actual team, even one we can be ashamed of if you like.
We have at our club, and I suspect in all areas of club operation football and non football, individuals looking after individual interests.
The protesting fans, and even the anti-CARD fans have more of a collective spirit than those involved at the club.
Our banner is tattered and torn in the mud, the staff is shattered and shortened, and by god we need a brave soul to lift it in the sky again and give us something to rally round.
If we sell 1000 season tickets next season under this lot I will be amazed....then again it is still mathematically possible to reach the play offs!