I'll run anyone close for being an atrocious gambler. I have never, ever won a football accumulator and it's only since I have done lucky 63s that I even see any sort of return which most of the time is less than my stake.
I have got first goalscorer a few times when Jordan Rhodes was at Huddersfield and I'm watching Leicester city's demise with interest as I put a bet on them to go down the second they lifted the trophy last year.
Had an brilliant win a few years ago on peanuts tips for the national. The one that still angers me to this day is the first groves v froch fight. Got brilliant odds on groves to win and was laying money down weekly. Covered pretty much everything except a referee being incredibly generous. I would have won a huge amount if he had won but serves me right, bookies aren't often wrong sadly
I'm awful, but then I only do the national and the odd footy bet.
My national bets historically didn't even finish, my youngest seemed to have a nack of picking the winner out of the paper based on the shirt colour/style she liked best. A few years back I opened a BetVictor account as they were paying out on the first 5, £25 bet and got a £25 bet free.
Put the £25 free bet on the horse my daughter picked (£12,50 each way, i'm not silly), and it won........ 66-1!! Even I was screaming at the telly in the end.
Treated two daughters and two friends to a day at Chessington with fasttrack.
Up to mow done ok last 2 years. Last year stuck mainly to the Bet365 no lose offer and took c£1K profit.
This season gone with Skybet advanced accys just picking the 2 that looked like no brainers to go larger which included yesterday 4/1 on Everton, Chelsea and West Brom so about £150 up for the year.
Rarely bet more than £2 a time each week save for the above.
Have to make clear, though I state I'm particularly rubbish at gambling, I'm STILL playing five years on with my winnings from (.thanks to Peanuts) having the 1st and 2nd in the 2012 National. So I'm not actually 'losing' money.
I've always said when that runs out I'm closing my account and not betting anymore. Now it's starting to get closer I'm not so sure
Have to make clear, though I state I'm particularly rubbish at gambling, I'm STILL playing five years on with my winnings from (.thanks to Peanuts) having the 1st and 2nd in the 2012 National. So I'm not actually 'losing' money.
I've always said when that runs out I'm closing my account and not betting anymore. Now it's starting to get closer I'm not so sure
I do £10 a week on x 3 accies. Two four folds and a treble. I keep a spread sheet of outgoings and winnings and am around £200 up for the season. I won't have an online account as I am concerned that I would spiral out of control quickly.
I do £10 a week on x 3 accies. Two four folds and a treble. I keep a spread sheet of outgoings and winnings and am around £200 up for the season. I won't have an online account as I am concerned that I would spiral out of control quickly.
I had an online account at one time then found me betting on the next game score in a random tennis match (win to love,win to 15 etc) involving two players I didn't know in a game I couldn't watch.
I'm not a bad. So much so that I quit my job 9 months ago and went pro. Even though the beat the bookie thread would suggest im actually rubbish, I do quite well off the back of the football. Just got to convince the wife that this is a long time thing and that I'm not going back to my boring bank job.
Hi Blinkant. Kudos to backing yourself. Was on a stag do with a work friend about 15 years ago and one of his mates was a pro gambler and he told me he only made between 2-5 bets a month. Be interested in what your weekly/monthly volumes would be bets wise not stake wise.
Have to make clear, though I state I'm particularly rubbish at gambling, I'm STILL playing five years on with my winnings from (.thanks to Peanuts) having the 1st and 2nd in the 2012 National. So I'm not actually 'losing' money.
I've always said when that runs out I'm closing my account and not betting anymore. Now it's starting to get closer I'm not so sure
So my respect of your honesty was not quite right then then Dan, mate? You are still "ahead" like all gamblers tell me? How they manage to pay Ray to advertise their wares is an enigma, shrouded in a mystery wrapped in in a puzzle...
Worst bet: £1150 on All Blacks to win the WC 2007 at odds 3 (placed the bet 1 1/2 in advance). Best bet: £20 on Pedro Bob to win at odds 22 (Cheltenham Festival 2007)
Hi Blinkant. Kudos to backing yourself. Was on a stag do with a work friend about 15 years ago and one of his mates was a pro gambler and he told me he only made between 2-5 bets a month. Be interested in what your weekly/monthly volumes would be bets wise not stake wise.
At the moment I'm around 15-20 a week. As I slowly build my pot up, I'll be able to afford to put more on each bet and so I will do less bets overall. Ideally 1 bet a week would be perfect but I'm a long way off that.
Soooooooo bad that I went to see a counsellor about my gambling problem a few years back and haven't had a big bet for nearly 4 years .(i do have the odd couple of quid with mates every so often if in pub etc) It was totally out of hand , would have single bets on most prem league games and La Liga games and would just chase losses , horrendous and be stuck to my phone looking at scores all weekend and nights that it was to th detriment of family life . Betfair was my downfall , I've banned myself from that for life . Bookies are a complete joke I know I'm shit and got banned (well they won't ban you but literally restrict you to pennies so effectively stopping you betting ) bet£3.65 stopped me cos they didn't like my style of betting , think I'd backed first goal scorer messi 8/11 when they were best priced and it won and I'd lost 4-5 previous bets for same stake and price on similar and even sentimental hedging the scum going up which lost! Boylesports the same after I'd told em I'd open account if I could back us to get relegated for a substantial amount when they were best price 11-8 the year we went down with parky , I could understand I'd won so they didn't like it but I was crackers saying I hope I lose the bet which I did hope but I won it And they didn't like it but bet365 I was down with when they restricted my account ! Victor chandler , Coral all the same shit and I am a loser fffs You can't get a bet on with these clowns anything over a few hundred quid and it's panic time . Makes me laugh when you see em saying they've laid £40k here or there at Cheltenham ,on the telly , for the evens favourite ,well brave when he's 11-10 on Betfair . Anyway I'm clean where my sports gambling problem was concerned but as long as people can afford what they lose it's all good but when you're pissing away more than you should and each bet is like a fix to a junkie and you're chasing losses to the cost of family life , it's time to STOP
Have to make clear, though I state I'm particularly rubbish at gambling, I'm STILL playing five years on with my winnings from (.thanks to Peanuts) having the 1st and 2nd in the 2012 National. So I'm not actually 'losing' money.
I've always said when that runs out I'm closing my account and not betting anymore. Now it's starting to get closer I'm not so sure
Looking back at my Bet 365 history, I've only placed 2 bets in the last 6 months.
I know I've got an appalling record over the years. Fluked £20 @ 50/1 when Spurs beat Inter Milan 3-1 with vdV scoring first in the CL all them years back but that's been about it. Only had 2 accumulators come in during the last 3-4 years. Doubt I've bet more than £1k in that time so I'm not out of pocket.
I don't bet very often, but I have been playing with in-game betting this season. My tactic is a simple one. I look for games where the better/in-form team is losing by one goal with 5 to 20 minutes to go. You can get some really good odds on the scores ending up level. I also look for any extreme odds. I got 16-1 on Millwall to beat Leicester when they went down to ten men. At the moment, I am only betting 50p or £1 but I have turned £5 in £65 fairly quickly. If only it was £5000 into £65000. I am not sure if I have just been lucky or I have found a bit of a loophole. However, if I scale this up, it could be a quick way to lose money as I often bet on about 5 or more games at the same time.
Last month saw me lose 70, I work my month from pay day to pay day so 24th to 24th. Before that ive won atleast a hundred a month so not doing badly. This month has started £30.00 up so far
I have my moments but am definitely down overall. Only do small stakes. Do a 6 match BTTS bet each weekend, a couple of penalty in match doubles on the live weekend games, a few ew doubles on the horses during the week. Also look for value and a couple of weeks ago stuck a tenner on fleetwood to win the league @ 66/1. If all teams keep their respective current form (last 10 games) until the end of the season then I have them winning the league.
Im terrible, but lucky, because betting does not give me the rush that it does to a lot of people, so there is no way I will get addicted, and I never bet big, I've never bet more than £10 on any one bet and that was once. Im terrible, because I bet on about 6-7 accas (minimum 10 teams) every saturday. My acca's are on every match in every English league, up to the maximum amount allowed. So I may have 20 matches in my L1 acca (never bet on us). If you do this one of the odds are brilliant, I think I did on saturday and it was 175,000/1 but I never bet more than 50p on an acca. I have never won.....anything.
I have my moments but am definitely down overall. Only do small stakes. Do a 6 match BTTS bet each weekend, a couple of penalty in match doubles on the live weekend games, a few ew doubles on the horses during the week. Also look for value and a couple of weeks ago stuck a tenner on fleetwood to win the league @ 66/1. If all teams keep their respective current form (last 10 games) until the end of the season then I have them winning the league.
Ive had Fleetwood in the majority of my bets this season; they have been fantastic. Even at the weekend they were above events to beat a Northampton at home and romped home. 66-1 fantastic odds, this week will be a big indicator of whether that will come in. Scunthorpe away. Good luck
A few years back (as my favourite example...) I had Arsenal to beat Newcastle in my accumulator and Arsenal were four up and Newcastle were down to ten men. So, I'm glued to Sky Sports news and watching the other results go my way, gradually getting more perturbed by keep hearing the commentary, "there's been another goal at St James Park....". Yes, it finished four all, so didn't even get the satisfaction of Arsenal losing. The bastards.
And just before Christmas it was looking good for a £625 return on a £5 stake only to see that Bolton could not overturn bottom of table Chesterfield. And then later hear how Bolton had peppered the Chesterfield goal with shots, hit the bar etc.
I could turn any team's season around....(except Charlton of course).
If anyone wants to know about the highs and lows of being a "mug", "part time" and "pro" gambler/trader I could write a book about it. Suffice to say it ain't easy to be a member of the third category - Betfair, when I worked for them, estimated that 0.2% made a profit on the Exchange i.e. 1 in 500.
My eldest son, Christian (23 as opposed to 13 year old Seb, the cricketer!) is a bit of a mathematical genius with a "rain man" like memory and was studying Maths and Stats at Uni before opting out after two years to become a full time trader. In the last four years he has made an estimated £200K but last week he became a "game keeper" and joined one of the big spread betting firms.
The reasons? Christian now has no betting accounts left that haven't either been restricted to pennies or closed all together and has also run out of friends accounts to use! He has been paying Premium Tax too on Betfair at the highest level (for those that aren't aware, the company levies a "tax" on those most successful on the Exchange) making it even harder to make a long term profit on the Exchange. Most recently, following 39 months of profit out of 42, he had three successive months of losing and that, in itself, created some self doubt and this, allied with the restrictions imposed by Betfair and the bookmakers, focused his mind as to whether he wanted to carry on full time doing this.
The other reason Christian has become a member of the employed is that, as good as it sounds, to have the freedom to do what you want when you want (he was at all bar the last week of last year's Euros and saw all the England games for example) is that it can make you a social outcast. For example, he has had to pay his monthly £800 rent annually in advance because he has no net relevant earnings or emplyer's reference but more important are the day to day implications of the lifestyle itself - his main sport is cricket and that might be played here, Australia, NZ, India, South Africa in fact anywhere in the world. Consequently, he has "enjoyed" the sleeping patterns of a long haul pilot and that isn't good for concentration let alone your health - and it also limits his opportunities to socialise on a regular basis. He will still carry on doing his thing on a smaller scale but it will be around his current employment.
As for me, I dare not think how much the bookies will have benefited from my benevolence in the last 40 years. Whilst I have been getting some of that back over the last decade or so it has been a very expensive journey getting there. I am retired at the relatively early age of 57 and use the experiences and strategies developed to limit my down side and mix trading with betting but if anyone tells you it's easy then they are either extremely clever, lucky or it's all just porkies!
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I have got first goalscorer a few times when Jordan Rhodes was at Huddersfield and I'm watching Leicester city's demise with interest as I put a bet on them to go down the second they lifted the trophy last year.
Had an brilliant win a few years ago on peanuts tips for the national. The one that still angers me to this day is the first groves v froch fight. Got brilliant odds on groves to win and was laying money down weekly. Covered pretty much everything except a referee being incredibly generous. I would have won a huge amount if he had won but serves me right, bookies aren't often wrong sadly
My national bets historically didn't even finish, my youngest seemed to have a nack of picking the winner out of the paper based on the shirt colour/style she liked best. A few years back I opened a BetVictor account as they were paying out on the first 5, £25 bet and got a £25 bet free.
Put the £25 free bet on the horse my daughter picked (£12,50 each way, i'm not silly), and it won........ 66-1!! Even I was screaming at the telly in the end.
Treated two daughters and two friends to a day at Chessington with fasttrack.
This season gone with Skybet advanced accys just picking the 2 that looked like no brainers to go larger which included yesterday 4/1 on Everton, Chelsea and West Brom so about £150 up for the year.
Rarely bet more than £2 a time each week save for the above.
I've always said when that runs out I'm closing my account and not betting anymore. Now it's starting to get closer I'm not so sure
Best bet: £20 on Pedro Bob to win at odds 22 (Cheltenham Festival 2007)
It was totally out of hand , would have single bets on most prem league games and La Liga games and would just chase losses , horrendous and be stuck to my phone looking at scores all weekend and nights that it was to th detriment of family life .
Betfair was my downfall , I've banned myself from that for life .
Bookies are a complete joke
I know I'm shit and got banned (well they won't ban you but literally restrict you to pennies so effectively stopping you betting ) bet£3.65 stopped me cos they didn't like my style of betting , think I'd backed first goal scorer messi 8/11 when they were best priced and it won and I'd lost 4-5 previous bets for same stake and price on similar and even sentimental hedging the scum going up which lost!
Boylesports the same after I'd told em I'd open account if I could back us to get relegated for a substantial amount when they were best price 11-8 the year we went down with parky , I could understand I'd won so they didn't like it but I was crackers saying I hope I lose the bet which I did hope but I won it And they didn't like it but bet365 I was down with when they restricted my account !
Victor chandler , Coral all the same shit and I am a loser fffs
You can't get a bet on with these clowns anything over a few hundred quid and it's panic time .
Makes me laugh when you see em saying they've laid £40k here or there at Cheltenham ,on the telly , for the evens favourite ,well brave when he's 11-10 on Betfair .
Anyway I'm clean where my sports gambling problem was concerned but as long as people can afford what they lose it's all good but when you're pissing away more than you should and each bet is like a fix to a junkie and you're chasing losses to the cost of family life , it's time to STOP
I know I've got an appalling record over the years. Fluked £20 @ 50/1 when Spurs beat Inter Milan 3-1 with vdV scoring first in the CL all them years back but that's been about it. Only had 2 accumulators come in during the last 3-4 years. Doubt I've bet more than £1k in that time so I'm not out of pocket.
I've won more on the Premium Bonds!
Only do small stakes. Do a 6 match BTTS bet each weekend, a couple of penalty in match doubles on the live weekend games, a few ew doubles on the horses during the week.
Also look for value and a couple of weeks ago stuck a tenner on fleetwood to win the league @ 66/1. If all teams keep their respective current form (last 10 games) until the end of the season then I have them winning the league.
Im terrible, because I bet on about 6-7 accas (minimum 10 teams) every saturday. My acca's are on every match in every English league, up to the maximum amount allowed. So I may have 20 matches in my L1 acca (never bet on us).
If you do this one of the odds are brilliant, I think I did on saturday and it was 175,000/1 but I never bet more than 50p on an acca.
I have never won.....anything.
Fascinating to hear more @Blinkant
Do you have a particular strategy? Bet in singles, doubles, trebles? Cash out strategy? Focus on certain markets/ teams/ divisions?
would love to hear more
I'm also in a syndicate called layezy. I was sceptical of it at 1st, but I've got a few friends in it & they got me involved.
A few years back (as my favourite example...) I had Arsenal to beat Newcastle in my accumulator and Arsenal were four up and Newcastle were down to ten men. So, I'm glued to Sky Sports news and watching the other results go my way, gradually getting more perturbed by keep hearing the commentary, "there's been another goal at St James Park....". Yes, it finished four all, so didn't even get the satisfaction of Arsenal losing. The bastards.
And just before Christmas it was looking good for a £625 return on a £5 stake only to see that Bolton could not overturn bottom of table Chesterfield. And then later hear how Bolton had peppered the Chesterfield goal with shots, hit the bar etc.
I could turn any team's season around....(except Charlton of course).
My eldest son, Christian (23 as opposed to 13 year old Seb, the cricketer!) is a bit of a mathematical genius with a "rain man" like memory and was studying Maths and Stats at Uni before opting out after two years to become a full time trader. In the last four years he has made an estimated £200K but last week he became a "game keeper" and joined one of the big spread betting firms.
The reasons? Christian now has no betting accounts left that haven't either been restricted to pennies or closed all together and has also run out of friends accounts to use! He has been paying Premium Tax too on Betfair at the highest level (for those that aren't aware, the company levies a "tax" on those most successful on the Exchange) making it even harder to make a long term profit on the Exchange. Most recently, following 39 months of profit out of 42, he had three successive months of losing and that, in itself, created some self doubt and this, allied with the restrictions imposed by Betfair and the bookmakers, focused his mind as to whether he wanted to carry on full time doing this.
The other reason Christian has become a member of the employed is that, as good as it sounds, to have the freedom to do what you want when you want (he was at all bar the last week of last year's Euros and saw all the England games for example) is that it can make you a social outcast. For example, he has had to pay his monthly £800 rent annually in advance because he has no net relevant earnings or emplyer's reference but more important are the day to day implications of the lifestyle itself - his main sport is cricket and that might be played here, Australia, NZ, India, South Africa in fact anywhere in the world. Consequently, he has "enjoyed" the sleeping patterns of a long haul pilot and that isn't good for concentration let alone your health - and it also limits his opportunities to socialise on a regular basis. He will still carry on doing his thing on a smaller scale but it will be around his current employment.
As for me, I dare not think how much the bookies will have benefited from my benevolence in the last 40 years. Whilst I have been getting some of that back over the last decade or so it has been a very expensive journey getting there. I am retired at the relatively early age of 57 and use the experiences and strategies developed to limit my down side and mix trading with betting but if anyone tells you it's easy then they are either extremely clever, lucky or it's all just porkies!