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Angling.......Bloodsport?
Stevelamb
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I am a Vegan but also an Angler and the two it would seem are incompatible.
Answers please by midnight on June 15th.
Answers please by midnight on June 15th.
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It's fine. Fish don't even have brains2
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Ummmmmmm.... is this a wind up?1
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Never mind compatibility, they are without doubt the two most boring things you can possibly imagine.31
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Here we go...1
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I assume the purpose of Angling is to trick or entice a fish to swallow or eat a metallic barbed hook, and to then be yanked from their environment.
Forgive me if I don't see the attraction of this activity, and to call it a sport is surely self delusion. It is either the equivalent of the New Zealand rugby team taking on St Winifreds U10 girls rugby team, or if it is angler against angler the fish are the victims used to keep a tally.
I can definitely see the attraction of getting out to the peace and tranquility of our beautiful countryside, but it seems a shame to me that it should include the oppression of an animal.
OK everybody, that is what I think, fill your boots.14 -
I thought the title of this thread alluded to a new extreme version of a boring pastime, where participants fought whilst angling or something of that nature.0
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I am proof you can be a vegan fisherman. My grandad took me fishing a few times and we never caught anything. You can't be more vegan than that! I think he was trying to teach me patience and always insisted we used bread rather than maggots (even more vegan). He'd tell me off if I reeled in too soon, but when I did it was generally just a hook coming up. I know fish are not the brightest, but we were really going for the ultra thick ones!7
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Fishing is probably cruel to the fish but no one's perfect so don't beat yourself up over it.Stevelamb said:I am a Vegan but also an Angler and the two it would seem are incompatible.
Answers please by midnight on June 15th.
By the way, I assume you're a vegan rather than someone from a planet around the star Vega.1 -
Great surname for a vegan.5
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Well it does seem incompatible, but it is complex. It seems to me that:
- Fishing for food is a perfectly reasonable thing to do. I do find pescetarianism odd though (not that that's where you'recoming from).
- Course fishing though seems particularly cruel though, hoiking an animal out of it's normal habitat for 'sport', watching it flap about as it struggles to breath whilst it's yanked along on a line and then posing for pictures like you're something special because you tamed a beast. That's certainly sounds incompatible with veganism. But...
- I am aware that fishing clubs do a lot to manage waterways and that in many cases it is their work has breathed life into rivers and lakes that would otherwise be effectively dead.
On balance I think that if you are a responsible member of a club that manages a waterway and helps the environment, it's probably OK. If however you're one of those selfish breeds of angler (I don't think for a minute you are, or you wouldn't be asking the question) who takes little care of the animals and leaves the place littered with old line and other debris that would definitely be incompatible.2 - Sponsored links:
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I've got a vegetarian mate whose name is Butcher.alan dugdale said:Great surname for a vegan.
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hook, line and sinker.Siv_in_Norfolk said:Ummmmmmm.... is this a wind up?
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I would definitely buy tickets for that.seth plum said:the New Zealand rugby team taking on St Winifreds U10 girls rugby team
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genuinely thought this would have been an @Anna_Kissed thread
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watching cafc is definitely more boringcafcfan said:Never mind compatibility, they are without doubt the two most boring things you can possibly imagine.
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fish especially large carp are very cleverLeuth said:It's fine. Fish don't even have brains
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So you hunt things without eating them rather than eating things without hunting them?
What do you think is the answer to your implied question?0 -
if it wasnt for angling waterways would become overgrown and riverside walkways become unpassable
thats just for starters
thats without the wildlife1 - Sponsored links:
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Yes, especially if you catch your finger on an acute one.0
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That avoids the question.floydroadfaithfull said:if it wasnt for angling waterways would become overgrown and riverside walkways become unpassable
thats just for starters
thats without the wildlife
Fishing for food is acceptable, fishing for fun is barbaric.1 -
But it's okay to eat fish
'Cause they don't have any feelings1 -
I dont eat meat, but you cant beat smashing a fish to death with a rock for a bit of father son bonding8
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I suppose it depends on what you do with the fish, do you put them back or club them over the head and sell them at the market?
Why are you Vegan, if it's because of animal rights, then why are you fishing?
In my opinion any harm to animals at any level, is wrong!
So, yes a blood sport!4 -
The fish that come out of the carp lakes that I know over here are fed all year with top quality pellet, have the water checked every 3 months, get a thorough examination when they're caught to the point where a Betadine type ointment is put on the wound where the hook was and for all that each fish comes out a max of about 2 to 3 times per year (if at all).
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