I find it astounding anyone in the Aussie consortium believed they'd get away with that if true / or didn't realise that rule existed.
That is what I do not get.
If they thought they would get away with it, or didn't have the nouse (or seek advice) as to what the EFL fit and proper tests involved then I'm not sure they are any better than the chuckle brothers.
I believe neither is the case - it might be that the two investors had second thoughts but I cannot believe it was for having a significant interest in another English club.
These guys use lawyers so they’d know anyway.
Precisely.
So why else would The EFL knock them back, I wonder?
Has this been confirmed by anybody?
Well? Anybody? This particular story is a load of bollocks. Isn't it?
I believe it is.
It would appear that it's gone from the EFL are satisfied with the applicants of the fit and proper person test, with 'two qualifications', to the EFL have rejected two people from the consortium because they are linked with other Clubs.
Love to know who actually made that link and if they have, where did they get it from.
There's more smoke and mirrors in this takeover than a Paul McKenna show.
So unless anyone can show they have an inside track to the EFL, or can quote someone who clearly has that link, we can declare the "two Aussie investors barred by EFL test" story to be entirely without foundation. Good.
Is it not possible that the two conditions were that person a & b drop out or lose their interest in other clubs?
Personally, I have no idea and am just guessing, but unless we know what those actual conditions were, we are only left to guess, those rumours had to have started somewhere and those saying it have a pretty good track record so far.
Bite size thread suggest Keith Harris might have been one.
Would be a major set back for the Aussie bid if this is the case. He was a major driver in this and pretty much heading it up. I know that for a fact.
I find it astounding anyone in the Aussie consortium believed they'd get away with that if true / or didn't realise that rule existed.
That is what I do not get.
If they thought they would get away with it, or didn't have the nouse (or seek advice) as to what the EFL fit and proper tests involved then I'm not sure they are any better than the chuckle brothers.
I believe neither is the case - it might be that the two investors had second thoughts but I cannot believe it was for having a significant interest in another English club.
These guys use lawyers so they’d know anyway.
Precisely.
So why else would The EFL knock them back, I wonder?
Has this been confirmed by anybody?
Well? Anybody? This particular story is a load of bollocks. Isn't it?
I believe it is.
It would appear that it's gone from the EFL are satisfied with the applicants of the fit and proper person test, with 'two qualifications', to the EFL have rejected two people from the consortium because they are linked with other Clubs.
Love to know who actually made that link and if they have, where did they get it from.
There's more smoke and mirrors in this takeover than a Paul McKenna show.
So unless anyone can show they have an inside track to the EFL, or can quote someone who clearly has that link, we can declare the "two Aussie investors barred by EFL test" story to be entirely without foundation. Good.
Is it not possible that the two conditions were that person a & b drop out or lose their interest in other clubs?
Personally, I have no idea and am just guessing, but unless we know what those actual conditions were, we are only left to guess, those rumours had to have started somewhere and those saying it have a pretty good track record so far.
Well can you help by identifying who these people were. Only@Addickted to my knowledge has been able to show that he has a solid source. I trust him, not least because he is not an ITK type, and Having talked with him privately I have full confidence in his info. He is categoric on this matter. So unless anyone else can come forward to authoritatively provide sourced material to the contrary, I recommend we go with Addickted information and ignore the rumour. Which of course is perjorative to the Aussie bid.
But I don't know Addickted, nor have I talked with him privately. That doesn't mean Addickted is lying, I don't think for a second he is, but by hi own admission, his contact at the EFL is not involved in the F & P Person test.
Someone I do know and have talked to privately believes, from his contacts, that the bid failed for the exact reason of ownership of other clubs.
The problem is so many people are getting info from so many different places, some of it genuine, some it total lies, so of it spin, that it becomes very, very difficult for anyone to know WTF is actually going on. So no, I don't think we can say the story is without foundation/a load of bollocks, it may turn out to be untrue, of course, but for now, all we know is the bid was knocked back / delayed for a reason and only one reason has been put out.
More than one reason.
Lack of funds is one.
Aussies not willing to pay RD valuation another.
Aussies low balling /guzundering RD at the face to face meeting is another.
RD delaying yet again as he thinks the other party, if they even exist, will pay more is yet another.
I've heard all of them from different people.
Not that that makes them any more or less valid but they are all possible reasons for the delay.
Me? I'll believe it when it's on the official site
Facts (actual ones): 1) The club is for sale 2) There is a prospective buyer.
Hearsay,maybes,speculation(NOT FACTS) 1)The buyer is an Aussie consortium. 2)The EFL have reviewed the above. 3)The EFL had queries on two of the above. 4)The EFL REJECTED two of the above. 5)The Aussies dont have the dosh 6)The Aussies do have the dosh 7) Another prospective buyer walked away a month ago 8) There is another buyer prospective buyer hiding behind a sofa 9)RD is buying out the former Directors "friendly" debt 10) RD isnt doing the above 11) RD will hold onto the fixed assets of the club 12) The Aussies are in agreement with this 13)The Aussies are not in agreement of this 14) The club would be sold when we knew what Division we were in 15)The club would be sold after the EFL had reviewed 16)The deadline was a month ago, then a week ago,then last Thursday,Yesterday, Friday.
fed up with the whole bollox to be honest.
Hopeful news--speculation--hearsay--fake news--propaganda ??? No fecking idea anymore
one huge fact of course is RD and Burger Boy are still here
I should add that the names bandied around re this alleged disbarred of two individuals are absolutely comical. Why on earth would Usmanvov want a small stake in a random 3rd division club? Come on people,this is bubble thinking.
Not to mention the fact that he (or his legal representatives) would absolutely know that it was against the rules and would never be accepted by the EFL.
I should add that the names bandied around re this alleged disbarred of two individuals are absolutely comical. Why on earth would Usmanvov want a small stake in a random 3rd division club? Come on people,this is bubble thinking.
I find it astounding anyone in the Aussie consortium believed they'd get away with that if true / or didn't realise that rule existed.
That is what I do not get.
If they thought they would get away with it, or didn't have the nouse (or seek advice) as to what the EFL fit and proper tests involved then I'm not sure they are any better than the chuckle brothers.
I believe neither is the case - it might be that the two investors had second thoughts but I cannot believe it was for having a significant interest in another English club.
These guys use lawyers so they’d know anyway.
Precisely.
So why else would The EFL knock them back, I wonder?
Has this been confirmed by anybody?
Well? Anybody? This particular story is a load of bollocks. Isn't it?
I believe it is.
It would appear that it's gone from the EFL are satisfied with the applicants of the fit and proper person test, with 'two qualifications', to the EFL have rejected two people from the consortium because they are linked with other Clubs.
Love to know who actually made that link and if they have, where did they get it from.
There's more smoke and mirrors in this takeover than a Paul McKenna show.
So unless anyone can show they have an inside track to the EFL, or can quote someone who clearly has that link, we can declare the "two Aussie investors barred by EFL test" story to be entirely without foundation. Good.
Is it not possible that the two conditions were that person a & b drop out or lose their interest in other clubs?
Personally, I have no idea and am just guessing, but unless we know what those actual conditions were, we are only left to guess, those rumours had to have started somewhere and those saying it have a pretty good track record so far.
Bite size thread suggest Keith Harris might have been one.
Would be a major set back for the Aussie bid if this is the case. He was a major driver in this and pretty much heading it up. I know that for a fact.
Comical, or a fact? It's impossible for us to know, but only one of you can be right.
I find it astounding anyone in the Aussie consortium believed they'd get away with that if true / or didn't realise that rule existed.
That is what I do not get.
If they thought they would get away with it, or didn't have the nouse (or seek advice) as to what the EFL fit and proper tests involved then I'm not sure they are any better than the chuckle brothers.
I believe neither is the case - it might be that the two investors had second thoughts but I cannot believe it was for having a significant interest in another English club.
These guys use lawyers so they’d know anyway.
Precisely.
So why else would The EFL knock them back, I wonder?
Has this been confirmed by anybody?
Well? Anybody? This particular story is a load of bollocks. Isn't it?
I believe it is.
It would appear that it's gone from the EFL are satisfied with the applicants of the fit and proper person test, with 'two qualifications', to the EFL have rejected two people from the consortium because they are linked with other Clubs.
Love to know who actually made that link and if they have, where did they get it from.
There's more smoke and mirrors in this takeover than a Paul McKenna show.
So unless anyone can show they have an inside track to the EFL, or can quote someone who clearly has that link, we can declare the "two Aussie investors barred by EFL test" story to be entirely without foundation. Good.
Is it not possible that the two conditions were that person a & b drop out or lose their interest in other clubs?
Personally, I have no idea and am just guessing, but unless we know what those actual conditions were, we are only left to guess, those rumours had to have started somewhere and those saying it have a pretty good track record so far.
Well can you help by identifying who these people were. Only@Addickted to my knowledge has been able to show that he has a solid source. I trust him, not least because he is not an ITK type, and Having talked with him privately I have full confidence in his info. He is categoric on this matter. So unless anyone else can come forward to authoritatively provide sourced material to the contrary, I recommend we go with Addickted information and ignore the rumour. Which of course is perjorative to the Aussie bid.
But I don't know Addickted, nor have I talked with him privately. That doesn't mean Addickted is lying, I don't think for a second he is, but by hi own admission, his contact at the EFL is not involved in the F & P Person test.
Someone I do know and have talked to privately believes, from his contacts, that the bid failed for the exact reason of ownership of other clubs.
The problem is so many people are getting info from so many different places, some of it genuine, some it total lies, so of it spin, that it becomes very, very difficult for anyone to know WTF is actually going on. So no, I don't think we can say the story is without foundation/a load of bollocks, it may turn out to be untrue, of course, but for now, all we know is the bid was knocked back / delayed for a reason and only one reason has been put out.
More than one reason.
Lack of funds is one.
Aussies not willing to pay RD valuation another.
Aussies low balling /guzundering RD at the face to face meeting is another.
RD delaying yet again as he thinks the other party, if they even exist, will pay more is yet another.
I've heard all of them from different people.
Not that that makes them any more or less valid but they are all possible reasons for the delay.
Me? I'll believe it when it's on the official site
But would the EFL care about any of those things?
No, but they are all possible reasons for a delay.
And we don't know for sure that the EFL have blocked it. @Addickted says not and while I wouldn't trust him with my wallet or my wife I don't think he's lying. Maybe his source is wrong or its got distortrd in the retelling but that goes for every rumoury, especially mine.
Facts (actual ones): 1) The club is for sale 2) There is a prospective buyer.
Hearsay,maybes,speculation(NOT FACTS) 1)The buyer is an Aussie consortium. 2)The EFL have reviewed the above. 3)The EFL had queries on two of the above. 4)The EFL REJECTED two of the above. 5)The Aussies dont have the dosh 6)The Aussies do have the dosh 7) Another prospective buyer walked away a month ago 8) There is another buyer prospective buyer hiding behind a sofa 9)RD is buying out the former Directors "friendly" debt 10) RD isnt doing the above 11) RD will hold onto the fixed assets of the club 12) The Aussies are in agreement with this 13)The Aussies are not in agreement of this 14) The club would be sold when we knew what Division we were in 15)The club would be sold after the EFL had reviewed 16)The deadline was a month ago, then a week ago,then last Thursday,Yesterday, Friday.
fed up with the whole bollox to be honest.
Hopeful news--speculation--hearsay--fake news--propaganda ??? No fecking idea anymore
one huge fact of course is RD and Burger Boy are still here
A great summary. It should be pasted onto the Bite Sized thread.
The club are off to Portugal for a training camp - Something happened to earn that sign off.
Lyle Taylor has come in - Someone authorised his purchase. Harry Lennon and several others have gone out - Someone authorised his sale
I can't help but hope that these moves are being orchestrated by someone intending to buy the club...
I don't care who you are Where you're from What you did As long as you buy CAFC
Bowyer does have a budget. Yes Taylor would have to be signed off but at present the departures of Konsa, Kashi and Lennon plus the wages of the loans are being saved and that money is what Bowyer has to play with. At present he’s in credit. I’m not saying that he will have all that wages money available but even RD is not stupid enough to think you can let 9 players leave and not replace at least some.
I suppose Taylor can be signed as it's a free and in theory RD won't be here to pay his contract.
Frees aren't really free though. Bigger signing on fee, agent fee and assume some other nominal admin costs. There must be some budget available to keep things ticking over until the takeover is decided one way or another. I certainly can't imagine there is a budget to match Bowyer's ambitions though.
The club are off to Portugal for a training camp - Something happened to earn that sign off.
Lyle Taylor has come in - Someone authorised his purchase. Harry Lennon and several others have gone out - Someone authorised his sale
I can't help but hope that these moves are being orchestrated by someone intending to buy the club...
I don't care who you are Where you're from What you did As long as you buy CAFC
Bowyer does have a budget. Yes Taylor would have to be signed off but at present the departures of Konsa, Kashi and Lennon plus the wages of the loans are being saved and that money is what Bowyer has to play with. At present he’s in credit. I’m not saying that he will have all that wages money available but even RD is not stupid enough to think you can let 9 players leave and not replace at least some.
Remember this is the same man that:
- thought Polish Pete and Reza were adequate replacements for Yann - appointed Katrien Meire - paid Roger Johnson's wages on 2 separate occasions - thinks {...} is part of the English Language - made a teenager/early 20's man child Charlton's 'chief scout'/ head of the network scouting team - Paid money for Bergdich - thought Charlton fans wanted the club to fail because we protested about HE was running the club
have i missed anything?
Regardless, the man has history with Stupid decisions
The club are off to Portugal for a training camp - Something happened to earn that sign off.
Lyle Taylor has come in - Someone authorised his purchase. Harry Lennon and several others have gone out - Someone authorised his sale
I can't help but hope that these moves are being orchestrated by someone intending to buy the club...
I don't care who you are Where you're from What you did As long as you buy CAFC
Bowyer does have a budget. Yes Taylor would have to be signed off but at present the departures of Konsa, Kashi and Lennon plus the wages of the loans are being saved and that money is what Bowyer has to play with. At present he’s in credit. I’m not saying that he will have all that wages money available but even RD is not stupid enough to think you can let 9 players leave and not replace at least some.
Remember this is the same man that:
- thought Polish Pete and Reza were adequate replacements for Yann - appointed Katrien Meire - paid Roger Johnson's wages on 2 separate occasions - thinks {...} is part of the English Language - made a teenager/early 20's man child Charlton's 'chief scout'/ head of the network scouting team - Paid money for Bergdich - thought Charlton fans wanted the club to fail because we protested about HE was running the club
have i missed anything?
Regardless, the man has history with Stupid decisions
Pissed money up the wall. He’s spent good money but mostly on dross.
The club are off to Portugal for a training camp - Something happened to earn that sign off.
Lyle Taylor has come in - Someone authorised his purchase. Harry Lennon and several others have gone out - Someone authorised his sale
I can't help but hope that these moves are being orchestrated by someone intending to buy the club...
I don't care who you are Where you're from What you did As long as you buy CAFC
Bowyer does have a budget. Yes Taylor would have to be signed off but at present the departures of Konsa, Kashi and Lennon plus the wages of the loans are being saved and that money is what Bowyer has to play with. At present he’s in credit. I’m not saying that he will have all that wages money available but even RD is not stupid enough to think you can let 9 players leave and not replace at least some.
Remember this is the same man that:
- thought Polish Pete and Reza were adequate replacements for Yann - appointed Katrien Meire - paid Roger Johnson's wages on 2 separate occasions - thinks {...} is part of the English Language - made a teenager/early 20's man child Charlton's 'chief scout'/ head of the network scouting team - Paid money for Bergdich - thought Charlton fans wanted the club to fail because we protested about HE was running the club
have i missed anything?
Regardless, the man has history with Stupid decisions
I'd bet money that he doesn't even know who Johnson and Bergdich are
The club are off to Portugal for a training camp - Something happened to earn that sign off.
Lyle Taylor has come in - Someone authorised his purchase. Harry Lennon and several others have gone out - Someone authorised his sale
I can't help but hope that these moves are being orchestrated by someone intending to buy the club...
I don't care who you are Where you're from What you did As long as you buy CAFC
Bowyer does have a budget. Yes Taylor would have to be signed off but at present the departures of Konsa, Kashi and Lennon plus the wages of the loans are being saved and that money is what Bowyer has to play with. At present he’s in credit. I’m not saying that he will have all that wages money available but even RD is not stupid enough to think you can let 9 players leave and not replace at least some.
Remember this is the same man that:
- thought Polish Pete and Reza were adequate replacements for Yann - appointed Katrien Meire - paid Roger Johnson's wages on 2 separate occasions - thinks {...} is part of the English Language - made a teenager/early 20's man child Charlton's 'chief scout'/ head of the network scouting team - Paid money for Bergdich - thought Charlton fans wanted the club to fail because we protested about HE was running the club
have i missed anything?
Regardless, the man has history with Stupid decisions
I'd bet money that he doesn't even know who Johnson and Bergdich are
For the first time in my life i'm slightly envious of RD
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He was a major driver in this and pretty much heading it up. I know that for a fact.
Repented what ?
Oh.... We wouldn't have to go into the details.
Facts (actual ones):
1) The club is for sale
2) There is a prospective buyer.
Hearsay,maybes,speculation(NOT FACTS)
1)The buyer is an Aussie consortium.
2)The EFL have reviewed the above.
3)The EFL had queries on two of the above.
4)The EFL REJECTED two of the above.
5)The Aussies dont have the dosh
6)The Aussies do have the dosh
7) Another prospective buyer walked away a month ago
8) There is another buyer prospective buyer hiding behind a sofa
9)RD is buying out the former Directors "friendly" debt
10) RD isnt doing the above
11) RD will hold onto the fixed assets of the club
12) The Aussies are in agreement with this
13)The Aussies are not in agreement of this
14) The club would be sold when we knew what Division we were in
15)The club would be sold after the EFL had reviewed
16)The deadline was a month ago, then a week ago,then last Thursday,Yesterday, Friday.
fed up with the whole bollox to be honest.
Hopeful news--speculation--hearsay--fake news--propaganda ??? No fecking idea anymore
one huge fact of course is RD and Burger Boy are still here
Lyle Taylor has come in - Someone authorised his purchase.
Harry Lennon and several others have gone out - Someone authorised his sale
I can't help but hope that these moves are being orchestrated by someone intending to buy the club...
I don't care who you are
Where you're from
What you did
As long as you buy CAFC
I know nothing about Usmanov.
And we don't know for sure that the EFL have blocked it. @Addickted says not and while I wouldn't trust him with my wallet or my wife I don't think he's lying. Maybe his source is wrong or its got distortrd in the retelling but that goes for every rumoury, especially mine.
Bowyer does have a budget. Yes Taylor would have to be signed off but at present the departures of Konsa, Kashi and Lennon plus the wages of the loans are being saved and that money is what Bowyer has to play with. At present he’s in credit. I’m not saying that he will have all that wages money available but even RD is not stupid enough to think you can let 9 players leave and not replace at least some.
They called for Barabbas, rather than Jesus, so he was saved.
Now, if you've read Holy Blood and Holy Grail.....
- thought Polish Pete and Reza were adequate replacements for Yann
- appointed Katrien Meire
- paid Roger Johnson's wages on 2 separate occasions
- thinks {...} is part of the English Language
- made a teenager/early 20's man child Charlton's 'chief scout'/ head of the network scouting team
- Paid money for Bergdich
- thought Charlton fans wanted the club to fail because we protested about HE was running the club
have i missed anything?
Regardless, the man has history with Stupid decisions
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