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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Wonder if she pissed in the fountains in Trafalgar Square, or swung from the crossbar at the olde Wembley.happyvalley said:1568, Mary, Queen of Scots flees to England.
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The Sprat to catch the Mackerel eh?ShootersHillGuru said:Airman Brown said:
Roland “playing smoke and mirrors” - have you listened to the guy and read the nonsense he puts out? There are a lot of assumptions made about his responsibility for past stories but, including Jim White in January, they are wrong.Stu_of_Kunming said:
Without knowing who 'the bidder' is, how can you possibly know it wasn't RD playing smoke and mirrors, again?Airman Brown said:
Don't think that's the case at all.carly burn said:
He has. More than £30 mill.soapboxsam said:David White is an Ex director and said he has never met the owner, so unlike Richard Murray isn't in the inner loop.
Bob Whitehand is an ex PLC vice Chairman and isn't in the inner loop.
White and Whitehand can have their opinions BUT only Murray and LDT are in the inner loop and they are struggling to understand the ramblings of Duchatelet.
At least the standard story is pro active in trying to get Roland to reveal WTF or how much he wants.
There was me thinking that once Katrien Meire left we had about a year left of RD tenure.
I believe it was the seller that pushed this out there. Not the other way round.
Roland doesn’t want to sell at £30m. If he did he’d be gone already. He has no interest in the discussion about his valuation being exposed, and he certainly doesn’t need to plant a story in the Standard to deter protests, which we are repeatedly told he doesn’t care about anyway. What protests?
The journalists at the Standard are not idiots and they are not in his pocket either. They know who their source is and on this one I trust them. Much easier for Roland to use the FF if he wants to control the message. The story will be there for a reason but it’s not Roland behind the mirror, whoever it is.
On that basis I conclude that whoever is behind the bid has gone public with £30 million on the basis that they know it will be rejected but with the intent of flushing Roland out of his tower and commit to a price he does want. It’s unlikely to get us any closer to a sale but will show Duchatelet up for the mad deluded fruitlob he is.0 -
What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.4
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They haven't walked away Mutters. Been over this before a few times recently, but it's obvious why they haven't walked away. Not saying it might not be a bad tactic to get him to lower his price, but it might look a bit obvious, and he'd probably call their bluff.MuttleyCAFC said:What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.1 -
When you walk away, you can always walk back. Sorry James, I might have missed it. Can you tell me the obvious reason.2
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1568 pages and counting.
The only thing stopping someone buying this club is that Shitweasel is asking far to much.
He really is a deluded old fool and the longer he owns us the more money he will lose.
Any sane person worth the best part of a Billion would accept a bid of around 30 million and walk away and enjoy the rest of their life .
There lies the problem .He ain't sane.
God knows how this will end up or how much longer we have to put up with the prick.
I just hope he doesn't try and screw us out of spite and that he goes soon and we can look forward to being a normal football club once again.7 -
1568 John Shakespeare (Little Willy’s Dad) is elected high bailiff of Stratford upon Avon. Celebrates with some haddock on toast.7
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I got a feeling in 12 months time rat would of wished he taken 30m as another year of losses and a no investment in the squad we could be heading to league 2 with even less chance of getting what he wants.10
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There are so many conflicting messages at present. The reported £30millon offer in the Standard, LdT’s statement that “Roland won’t lower his price” (whatever that may be - although he would say that, wouldn’t he ?) and the David White interview, which is highly credible (albeit he is not, as he acknowledges, in the loop).
My fear is that, given the buffer of his personal wealth, Duchatelet may chose to simply sit it out, with a vague and ill-considered plan of further cost cutting and the odd player sale or sell-on fee to mitigate the annual losses. I expect him to explore the possibility of somehow exploiting the real estate, although that will presumably prove futile.
One optimistic interpretation of his rant against the EFL is that he is laying the ground for his exit and the narrative that the failure of the venture is nothing to do with him but the fault of others. Something to tell his cronies. A more prosaic - and pessimistic- interpretation is that nothing has changed and that he is (as is his wont) simply lashing out when provoked.
On the basis that we cannot allow our club to continue to shrink, all we can do is to get behind the initiatives of CARD and others to put pressure on Duchatelet to end this limbo. Protests, especially in Belgium, are clearly his soft spot.22 -
Let’s say they have spent £1m plus on DD, that is a lot to walk away from,especially if they think no one else is serious. They could (and I suspect have) simply said to RD ‘our top price is £x, take it or leave it’ - he has said not now and they are stuck at an impasse. He knows he has them as a fall back but is trying to find more, all the while losing money. Why? Because he is clearly mental.MuttleyCAFC said:What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.5 -
Mate, he currently is screwing us out of spite, has been for as long as I care to remember now, and will continue to do so.blackpool72 said:1568 pages and counting.
The only thing stopping someone buying this club is that Shitweasel is asking far to much.
He really is a deluded old fool and the longer he owns us the more money he will lose.
Any sane person worth the best part of a Billion would accept a bid of around 30 million and walk away and enjoy the rest of their life .
There lies the problem .He ain't sane.
God knows how this will end up or how much longer we have to put up with the prick.
I just hope he doesn't try and screw us out of spite and that he goes soon and we can look forward to being a normal football club once again.2 -
Sadly I think you are right.bazjonster said:
Mate, he currently is screwing us out of spite, has been for as long as I care to remember now, and will continue to do so.blackpool72 said:1568 pages and counting.
The only thing stopping someone buying this club is that Shitweasel is asking far to much.
He really is a deluded old fool and the longer he owns us the more money he will lose.
Any sane person worth the best part of a Billion would accept a bid of around 30 million and walk away and enjoy the rest of their life .
There lies the problem .He ain't sane.
God knows how this will end up or how much longer we have to put up with the prick.
I just hope he doesn't try and screw us out of spite and that he goes soon and we can look forward to being a normal football club once again.1 -
I think they’ve spent a bit more, but otherwise that’s roughly why they’re still there. No benefit in walking away. His problem, as we’ve seen, is keeping the consortium together, while Roland messes everybody about.Athletico Charlton said:
Let’s say they have spent £1m plus on DD, that is a lot to walk away from,especially if they think no one else is serious. They could (and I suspect have) simply said to RD ‘our top price is £x, take it or leave it’ - he has said not now and they are stuck at an impasse. He knows he has them as a fall back but is trying to find more, all the while losing money. Why? Because he is clearly mental.MuttleyCAFC said:What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.
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No one should wish anyone dead, but I think it’s OK to hope someone doesn’t live very long.10
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I can't imagine an NDA preventing say, Murphy announcing to the press, our valuation is £30m. The owner wants more.3
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JamesSeed said:
I think they’ve spent a bit more, but otherwise that’s roughly why they’re still there. No benefit in walking away. His problem, as we’ve seen, is keeping the consortium together, while Roland messes everybody about.Athletico Charlton said:
Let’s say they have spent £1m plus on DD, that is a lot to walk away from,especially if they think no one else is serious. They could (and I suspect have) simply said to RD ‘our top price is £x, take it or leave it’ - he has said not now and they are stuck at an impasse. He knows he has them as a fall back but is trying to find more, all the while losing money. Why? Because he is clearly mental.MuttleyCAFC said:What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.
Yes, I must admit I forgot about the serious amount of money they have put in. But surely there must be a point where you realise it isn't going to happen. The worry is that Roland may be using the fact they are there as a kind of insurance whilst he tries to find something better.
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What would be the benefit to Murphy of doing that?harveys_gardener said:I can't imagine an NDA preventing say, Murphy announcing to the press, our valuation is £30m. The owner wants more.0 -
I hope that’s not the case.MuttleyCAFC said:JamesSeed said:
I think they’ve spent a bit more, but otherwise that’s roughly why they’re still there. No benefit in walking away. His problem, as we’ve seen, is keeping the consortium together, while Roland messes everybody about.Athletico Charlton said:
Let’s say they have spent £1m plus on DD, that is a lot to walk away from,especially if they think no one else is serious. They could (and I suspect have) simply said to RD ‘our top price is £x, take it or leave it’ - he has said not now and they are stuck at an impasse. He knows he has them as a fall back but is trying to find more, all the while losing money. Why? Because he is clearly mental.MuttleyCAFC said:What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.
Yes, I must admit I forgot about the serious amount of money they have put in. But surely there must be a point where you realise it isn't going to happen. The worry is that Roland may be using the fact they are there as a kind of insurance whilst he tries to find something better.
If the Aussies pulled out I suspect Roland would just carry on being Roland. I doubt he’d suddenly accept the £30m bid. But maybe this banker will increase his offer.
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There is not a grain of truth in this and I can see this half baked deal going sour (dough).0
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If the numbers we are all guessing at are anywhere near right, then the Aussies have spent a serious amount of money and that might be a good reason to hang on. However, they also know that Roland is losing about the same about every five or six weeks. So the longer they hold on, the smaller their costs become, compared to his.MuttleyCAFC said:JamesSeed said:
I think they’ve spent a bit more, but otherwise that’s roughly why they’re still there. No benefit in walking away. His problem, as we’ve seen, is keeping the consortium together, while Roland messes everybody about.Athletico Charlton said:
Let’s say they have spent £1m plus on DD, that is a lot to walk away from,especially if they think no one else is serious. They could (and I suspect have) simply said to RD ‘our top price is £x, take it or leave it’ - he has said not now and they are stuck at an impasse. He knows he has them as a fall back but is trying to find more, all the while losing money. Why? Because he is clearly mental.MuttleyCAFC said:What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.
Yes, I must admit I forgot about the serious amount of money they have put in. But surely there must be a point where you realise it isn't going to happen. The worry is that Roland may be using the fact they are there as a kind of insurance whilst he tries to find something better.
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This. I’m sure we’d love to know, but there’s no incentive for him to break the NDA.Chizz said:
What would be the benefit to Murphy of doing that?harveys_gardener said:I can't imagine an NDA preventing say, Murphy announcing to the press, our valuation is £30m. The owner wants more.0 -
Totally agree. Think the Aussies should have walked away months ago. Ok they have spent a lot of money on DD But at the end of the day nothing I would have thought they knew Grotty teeth’s price before DD took placeMuttleyCAFC said:What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.
as for the play offs scarf fiasco they made themselves a joke2 -
Why should they have walked away?AmandaHoldensCat said:
Totally agree. Think the Aussies should have walked away months ago. Ok they have spent a lot of money on DD But at the end of the day nothing I would have thought they knew Grotty teeth’s price before DD took placeMuttleyCAFC said:What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.
as for the play offs scarf fiasco they made themselves a joke
If their intention is to end up as owners, wouldn't it be better not to walk away? And, if you agree with that, isn't the further inference that, as they haven't walked away, then they intend to end up as owners?4 -
Maybe they should have walked away. But then they’d have lost, and in a twisted sort of a way, Roland would have won.AmandaHoldensCat said:
Totally agree. Think the Aussies should have walked away months ago. Ok they have spent a lot of money on DD But at the end of the day nothing I would have thought they knew Grotty teeth’s price before DD took placeMuttleyCAFC said:What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.
as for the play offs scarf fiasco they made themselves a joke
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Unless the Aussies buy us they have lost.JamesSeed said:w
Maybe they should have walked away. But then they’d have lost, and in a twisted sort of a way, Roland would have won.AmandaHoldensCat said:
Totally agree. Think the Aussies should have walked away months ago. Ok they have spent a lot of money on DD But at the end of the day nothing I would have thought they knew Grotty teeth’s price before DD took placeMuttleyCAFC said:What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.
as for the play offs scarf fiasco they made themselves a joke
Lost money
Lost credibility
What have they actually won.1
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