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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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So Roland turns down 45m last summer when we're a league one club but now accepts 33m when we're in the championship. Forgive me for being a bit sceptical.2
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It will take some time because he is trying to stiff them.
Murray would likely cut a deal to remain in one form or other, but what about the others?1 -
Someone drop Rolly an email explaining bank transfers and we should be good to go.JamesSeed said:
I’d agree, but now I know who his source is I’m less skeptical.bazjonster said:
James, with your track record of providing info obtained from a fella who's normally pretty good, you'll forgive me for taking a rain check on this one.JamesSeed said:
Aussies wouldn’t tell me the price for the usual reason. But when I mentioned a range of prices they agreed, and 33m was inside the range (and it wasn’t £1m - £100m!).
But WIOTOS we’ll know for sure, either way. But I certainly understand the skepticism.
@Redmidland it’s never been on the cards that they run around chasing ex directors offering deals. It’s always been the seller’s job. For some reason this hasn’t happened so far, and reading the official side, RD says ‘that may take time’. The remaining questions are:
1 Why?
2 Why hasn’t anything been done about it already.3 -
You may find it’s an upfront payment with more to follow. That’s always been a likely structure.Covered End said:And another thing. If the Aussies agreed a price of £65/70M 2 years ago & we've been told all along a price has been agreed.
Why is the agreed price now halved?
No disrespect to David White intended, but his loan is only £250k out of £7m and Murray is probably blasé about picking him off and has told Murphy and RD that. Doesn’t mean he’s right.
The other three Murray will regard as much less malleable, but again ask the question of why negotiating down £2.65m is so vital to doing a deal that to work out will cost the new owners tens if not hundreds of millions pending any promotion to the PL.0 -
Hope it’s nonsense because the first thing it makes me think of is Roland is keeping The Valley in that scenario. If anyone has a better explanation for why he would take £33M in The Championship and turn down £45M in League One, I am open to it.Chris_from_Sidcup said:So Roland turns down 45m last summer when we're a league one club but now accepts 33m when we're in the championship. Forgive me for being a bit sceptical.0 -
Do we know for definite he turned down 45m last year or is that another “I heard this from someone reliable”?NapaAddick said:
Hope it’s nonsense because the first thing it makes me think of is Roland is keeping The Valley in that scenario. If anyone has a better explanation for why he would take £33M in The Championship and turn down £45M in League One, I am open to it.Chris_from_Sidcup said:So Roland turns down 45m last summer when we're a league one club but now accepts 33m when we're in the championship. Forgive me for being a bit sceptical.0 -
Did they?Covered End said:And another thing. If the Aussies agreed a price of £65/70M 2 years ago & we've been told all along a price has been agreed.
Why is the agreed price now halved?0 -
I keep asking the question and the only answer I can come up with is that the new owners don't have it/as in willing to spend it on Charlton (Muir or whoever will have it personally).Airman Brown said:
You may find it’s an upfront payment with more to follow. That’s always been a likely structure.Covered End said:And another thing. If the Aussies agreed a price of £65/70M 2 years ago & we've been told all along a price has been agreed.
Why is the agreed price now halved?
No disrespect to David White intended, but his loan is only £250k out of £7m and Murray is probably blasé about picking him off and has told Murphy and RD that. Doesn’t mean he’s right.
The other three Murray will regard as much less malleable, but again ask the question of why negotiating down £2.65m is so vital to doing a deal that to work out will cost the new owners tens if not hundreds of millions pending any promotion to the PL.0 -
If the deal was say £33M down plus £32M if we reach the Prem, then surely RD would want a first charge and the new owner would still not get clean title ?1
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Why would he need the first charge when he is telling people the fixed assets are worth £50m plus, and the existing charges are £7m, I wonder...Covered End said:If the deal was say £33M down plus £32M if we reach the Prem, then surely RD would want a first charge and the new owner would still not get clean title ?0 -
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We don’t know sqwat about anything and never have.Themightyath2 said:
Do we know for definite he turned down 45m last year or is that another “I heard this from someone reliable”?NapaAddick said:
Hope it’s nonsense because the first thing it makes me think of is Roland is keeping The Valley in that scenario. If anyone has a better explanation for why he would take £33M in The Championship and turn down £45M in League One, I am open to it.Chris_from_Sidcup said:So Roland turns down 45m last summer when we're a league one club but now accepts 33m when we're in the championship. Forgive me for being a bit sceptical.1 -
The only thing I know for sure is that it’s the loans holding things up. The Aussies were expecting that they would have been sorted, but they haven’t been.
Whether it’s the ex directors ‘not co-operating’ I don’t know for sure. It could be that Roland hasn’t sorted them when he should have done, or those acting for Roland haven’t when they should have done.
But forget the Aussies trying to sort out the directors. That was never expected, or requested or even feasible.
Seems like we’re nearer, but not nearer. Does anyone know how Roland could benefit from a delay?0 -
No idea why I think this but I get the feeling that should the Aussies finally take control then we are going to be the subject of yet another experiment where all sorts of bolt ons to the football norms are brought into play. Psychological profiling of players, ballet dancing, mediums, positive thinking. No money.1
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Aussies? How many ?.James Seed!1
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24.6 million as of 2017Valley27000 said:Aussies? How many ?.James Seed!
Thats £1.25 each if the figure of £33 million is correct.3 -
If the Australians take over I will be first in line for buying season tickets.3
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So the deal is being held up by a few million pounds. If Roland pays them back 100% of their loans the takeover can go through?JamesSeed said:The only thing I know for sure is that it’s the loans holding things up. The Aussies were expecting that they would have been sorted, but they haven’t been.
Whether it’s the ex directors ‘not co-operating’ I don’t know for sure. It could be that Roland hasn’t sorted them when he should have done, or those acting for Roland haven’t when they should have done.
But forget the Aussies trying to sort out the directors. That was never expected, or requested or even feasible.
Seems like we’re nearer, but not nearer. Does anyone know how Roland could benefit from a delay?0 -
Until this week there hasn’t been any recent effort to sort them, so I think it’s a bit rich to put the responsibility for it not having happened on the ex-directors. Then it was framed as a threat. Nice.JamesSeed said:The only thing I know for sure is that it’s the loans holding things up. The Aussies were expecting that they would have been sorted, but they haven’t been.
Whether it’s the ex directors ‘not co-operating’ I don’t know for sure. It could be that Roland hasn’t sorted them when he should have done, or those acting for Roland haven’t when they should have done.
But forget the Aussies trying to sort out the directors. That was never expected, or requested or even feasible.
Seems like we’re nearer, but not nearer. Does anyone know how Roland could benefit from a delay?7 -
In the consortium for Charlton FC?.ShootersHillGuru said:
24.6 million as of 2017Valley27000 said:Aussies? How many ?.James Seed!
Thats £1.25 each if the figure of £33 million is correct.1 -
Probably that’s why the paperwork has taken two years.Valley27000 said:
In the consortium for Charlton FC?.ShootersHillGuru said:
24.6 million as of 2017Valley27000 said:Aussies? How many ?.James Seed!
Thats £1.25 each if the figure of £33 million is correct.0 -
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Aussie+Indian+USA money.0
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But not much of it so it seemsValley27000 said:Aussie+Indian+USA money.0 -
1667, John Milton's Paradise Lost is published.0
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£500m+£500m+£500m that will do.0
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Well if they’ve been waiting for RD to agree to a sensible price then they’ve done the right thing.clb74 said:
Do we really want the Aussies after 2 yearsseth plum said:If the Australians take over I will be first in line for buying season tickets.
Frying pan into the fire
Would you want another owner to rush through a deal like RD did and also pay him more than the club is worth? Instead maybe that money can be spent by the club rather than going to Roland.5 -
I couldn't care less who the owner is as long as they give Bowyer the contract he wants and back him in the transfer market. I'd probably be willing to give Kim Jong Un a go if it meant Roland fucking off.clb74 said:
Do we really want the Aussies after 2 yearsseth plum said:If the Australians take over I will be first in line for buying season tickets.
Frying pan into the fire8 -
The Aussies are not for me.
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