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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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WhooshTaxi_Lad said:Stu_of_Kunming said:There are 40 posts per page.
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But it's not.JamesSeed said:.clb74 said:
I believe it’s £7m the Aussies are dealing with now.
That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.Scoham said:The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.
If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.
Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.
He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.
Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
Can't see it.
If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.
I’ve a possible solution to the current impasse, but it would involve compromise by Roland, which might be a stumbling block.
The ex Directors are prepared to take a hair cut, as long as he sells lock, stock and barrel. RDs post suggests that he has already agreed with the majority of the ex Directors (though David White has questioned that).
At least the position seems more fluid now that LvT has contacted them at last.
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@NapaAddick gets 77 posts per page.KiwiValley said:
WhooshTaxi_Lad said:Stu_of_Kunming said:There are 40 posts per page.
30 per page
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Is that correct? Bob Whitehand has this morning said on Twitter that he’s never met or spoken to Duchatelet. I can only conclude he’s not doing a deal and besides, why should the ex-directors pay for Duchatelet’s mistakes because the rat failed to do his due diligence properlyAddickted said:
But it's not.JamesSeed said:.clb74 said:
I believe it’s £7m the Aussies are dealing with now.
That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.Scoham said:The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.
If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.
Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.
He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.
Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
Can't see it.
If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.
I’ve a possible solution to the current impasse, but it would involve compromise by Roland, which might be a stumbling block.
The ex Directors are prepared to take a hair cut, as long as he sells lock, stock and barrel. RDs post suggests that he has already agreed with the majority of the ex Directors (though David White has questioned that).
At least the position seems more fluid now that LvT has contacted them at last.9 -
There are some wrong assumptions on CL about what Roland has and hadn’t done, and what his current position is. He isn’t offering to pay the ex directors at all now, is he?Addickted said:
But it's not.JamesSeed said:.clb74 said:
I believe it’s £7m the Aussies are dealing with now.
That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.Scoham said:The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.
If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.
Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.
He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.
Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
Can't see it.
If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.
I’ve a possible solution to the current impasse, but it would involve compromise by Roland, which might be a stumbling block.
The ex Directors are prepared to take a hair cut, as long as he sells lock, stock and barrel. RDs post suggests that he has already agreed with the majority of the ex Directors (though David White has questioned that).
At least the position seems more fluid now that LvT has contacted them at last.
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Can you confirm that they or their backers are demanding Clean title.JamesSeed said:
The Aussies weren’t offering a haircut. Can’t say too much though.Addickted said:
But it's not.JamesSeed said:.clb74 said:
I believe it’s £7m the Aussies are dealing with now.
That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.Scoham said:The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.
If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.
Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.
He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.
Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
Can't see it.
If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.
I’ve a possible solution to the current impasse, but it would involve compromise by Roland, which might be a stumbling block.
The ex Directors are prepared to take a hair cut, as long as he sells lock, stock and barrel. RDs post suggests that he has already agreed with the majority of the ex Directors (though David White has questioned that).
At least the position seems more fluid now that LvT has contacted them at last.0 -
Chappell, Whitehand and Sumner put out a statement via VOTV saying they were not prepared to take a haircut.
They said they want repayment in full.
As for Murray, Hatter, Hughes and White, we don't know what their views are.
However, Dave White said he had been recently contacted, was willing to have a discussion, but no discussion had taken place.0 -
There is proof that RD's valuation is bollox.
There is proof that the owner of Ebbsfleet did not approach for takeover, via Varney or anyone else.
There is proof that the ex-directors are not blocking a deal.
I'm sure there is proof against other numerous RD lies and BS.
All this should be exposed.18 -
Are you certain he has._MrDick said:
Is that correct? Bob Whitehand has this morning said on Twitter that he’s never met or spoken to Duchatelet.Addickted said:
But it's not.JamesSeed said:.clb74 said:
I believe it’s £7m the Aussies are dealing with now.
That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.Scoham said:The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.
If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.
Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.
He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.
Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
Can't see it.
If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.
I’ve a possible solution to the current impasse, but it would involve compromise by Roland, which might be a stumbling block.
The ex Directors are prepared to take a hair cut, as long as he sells lock, stock and barrel. RDs post suggests that he has already agreed with the majority of the ex Directors (though David White has questioned that).
At least the position seems more fluid now that LvT has contacted them at last.
He may not have spoken to or met RD, but LvT has been in touch with all the ex Directors now.
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He is.JamesSeed said:
There are some wrong assumptions on CL about what Roland has and hadn’t done, and what his current position is. He isn’t offering to pay the ex directors at all now, is he?Addickted said:
But it's not.JamesSeed said:.clb74 said:
I believe it’s £7m the Aussies are dealing with now.
That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.Scoham said:The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.
If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.
Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.
He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.
Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
Can't see it.
If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.
I’ve a possible solution to the current impasse, but it would involve compromise by Roland, which might be a stumbling block.
The ex Directors are prepared to take a hair cut, as long as he sells lock, stock and barrel. RDs post suggests that he has already agreed with the majority of the ex Directors (though David White has questioned that).
At least the position seems more fluid now that LvT has contacted them at last.
Just at a discounted rate. And as long as he sells CAFC as a complete entity, then my understanding that they may well be acceptable to the ex Directors.
Obviously dependant on the level of the 'discount'.
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I”m not certain about anything these days apart from going to bed and getting up everyday. He was responding to a tweet I sent him about Duchatelet’s missive last week which said he’d never spoken to or met the manAddickted said:
Are you certain he has._MrDick said:
Is that correct? Bob Whitehand has this morning said on Twitter that he’s never met or spoken to Duchatelet.Addickted said:
But it's not.JamesSeed said:.clb74 said:
I believe it’s £7m the Aussies are dealing with now.
That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.Scoham said:The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.
If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.
Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.
He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.
Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
Can't see it.
If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.
I’ve a possible solution to the current impasse, but it would involve compromise by Roland, which might be a stumbling block.
The ex Directors are prepared to take a hair cut, as long as he sells lock, stock and barrel. RDs post suggests that he has already agreed with the majority of the ex Directors (though David White has questioned that).
At least the position seems more fluid now that LvT has contacted them at last.
He may not have spoken to or met RD, but LvT has been in touch with all the ex Directors now.0 -
I agree that the ex Directors should not be expected to take a haircut, but, I am sure that like us, they would want to see the back of Roland completely, so I would fully understand them stating for the good of the club, that they would be prepared to.1
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Addickted said:
Are you certain he has._MrDick said:
Is that correct? Bob Whitehand has this morning said on Twitter that he’s never met or spoken to Duchatelet.Addickted said:
But it's not.JamesSeed said:.clb74 said:
I believe it’s £7m the Aussies are dealing with now.
That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.Scoham said:The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.
If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.
Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.
He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.
Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
Can't see it.
If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.
I’ve a possible solution to the current impasse, but it would involve compromise by Roland, which might be a stumbling block.
The ex Directors are prepared to take a hair cut, as long as he sells lock, stock and barrel. RDs post suggests that he has already agreed with the majority of the ex Directors (though David White has questioned that).
At least the position seems more fluid now that LvT has contacted them at last.
He may not have spoken to or met RD, but LvT has been in touch with all the ex Directors now.
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First off can I just say that I respect the views and reasons why any of the former directors feel about getting paid in full. That is purely for them to decide.
What I will say though is that given the loans are not paid in full until the football club returns to The Premier League. I don’t find it completely surprising that in order to “cash out” early on a bet that might never come in that they are being offered something less.
We have heard of a previous derisory offer which completely fits in with the Belgian maniacs modus operandi and has rightly been rejected but my point stands that any offer now to clear the loans might be less than the full amount.
Thats not to say each of the former former directors have to accept that.
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So the situation is not an impasse but a total stalemate.
Why did Chappel, Whitehand and Sumner make loans which would be paid back if we make the Premier yet now want to be paid out in full ?
Did they invest money with Neil Woodford or Richard Rufus and now have cash flow problems ?0 -
I believe they spent a lot of time and money (before we'd even heard that they were interested in the club) sorting out complex ownership issues, I think dating back to the Jimenez era.Starinnaddick said:
Can you confirm that they or their backers are demanding Clean title.JamesSeed said:
The Aussies weren’t offering a haircut. Can’t say too much though.Addickted said:
But it's not.JamesSeed said:.clb74 said:
I believe it’s £7m the Aussies are dealing with now.
That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.Scoham said:The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.
If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.
Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.
He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.
Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
Can't see it.
If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.
I’ve a possible solution to the current impasse, but it would involve compromise by Roland, which might be a stumbling block.
The ex Directors are prepared to take a hair cut, as long as he sells lock, stock and barrel. RDs post suggests that he has already agreed with the majority of the ex Directors (though David White has questioned that).
At least the position seems more fluid now that LvT has contacted them at last.
I suspect they might view further complications with suspicion?0 -
soapboxsam said:So the situation is not an impasse but a total stalemate.
Why did Chappel, Whitehand and Sumner make loans which would be paid back if we make the Premier yet now want to be paid out in full ?
Did they invest money with Neil Woodford or Richard Rufus !I am not sure that this is right ...............
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soapboxsam said:So the situation is not an impasse but a total stalemate.
Why did Chappel, Whitehand and Sumner make loans which would be paid back if we make the Premier yet now want to be paid out in full ?
Did they invest money with Neil Woodford or Richard Rufus !maybe because they don't actually need the money at present and are prepared to take their chances that we may make the Premier League at some point and they will get their money back in full as opposed to accepting the 10%/20% offered by Roland. Or they know any prospective purchaser will want clean title and so they will probably either get repaid in full or will be prepared to take a lesser haircut. Either way I don't see why they should have to settle for any less than full repayment if that is what they want. It was a loan after all, at no interest either.
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Would you make a loan and not expect it to be paid in full? The ex-directors are obliged to wait until the club get's to the Premier League for payment, unless other things happen, like a new owner wanting clean title. It's not the ex-directors fault. Blame Roland for not doing due diligence, and getting clean title himself!soapboxsam said:So the situation is not an impasse but a total stalemate.
Why did Chappel, Whitehand and Sumner make loans which would be paid back if we make the Premier yet now want to be paid out in full ?
Did they invest money with Neil Woodford or Richard Rufus !10 -
The fact that he said he has been contacted recently, and what with RD's misleading statement I do wonder if something is going on behind the scenes.Covered End said:Chappell, Whitehand and Sumner put out a statement via VOTV saying they were not prepared to take a haircut.
They said they want repayment in full.
As for Murray, Hatter, Hughes and White, we don't know their views are.
However, Dave White said he had been recently contacted, was willing to have a discussion, but no discussion had taken place.
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Well it obviously is because Dave White has confirmed just now, that LDT has now contacted all of the ex-directors.Rudders22 said:
The fact that he said he has been contacted recently, and what with RD's misleading statement I do wonder if something is going on behind the scenes.Covered End said:Chappell, Whitehand and Sumner put out a statement via VOTV saying they were not prepared to take a haircut.
They said they want repayment in full.
As for Murray, Hatter, Hughes and White, we don't know their views are.
However, Dave White said he had been recently contacted, was willing to have a discussion, but no discussion had taken place.
I assume a price was agreed between RD & The Aussies.
The Aussies expected RD to pay off the ex-director loans and he has refused, or refused to pay them in full, in the hope that he doesn't have to pay the full £7M.
I assume he's thinking that if he has to pay out £7M, he would rather run the club on a shoestring attempting to break even or perhaps only lose let's say £2M pa, which will mean financially he will better off sitting tight.0 -
How do you know LtV has spoken to all the ex Directors now?Brunello said:Addickted said:
Are you certain he has._MrDick said:
Is that correct? Bob Whitehand has this morning said on Twitter that he’s never met or spoken to Duchatelet.Addickted said:
But it's not.JamesSeed said:.clb74 said:
I believe it’s £7m the Aussies are dealing with now.
That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.Scoham said:The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.
If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.
Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.
He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.
Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
Can't see it.
If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.
I’ve a possible solution to the current impasse, but it would involve compromise by Roland, which might be a stumbling block.
The ex Directors are prepared to take a hair cut, as long as he sells lock, stock and barrel. RDs post suggests that he has already agreed with the majority of the ex Directors (though David White has questioned that).
At least the position seems more fluid now that LvT has contacted them at last.
He may not have spoken to or met RD, but LvT has been in touch with all the ex Directors now.2 -
We know RD is not competent as a football club owner - but he has always claimed competence as a billionaire business owner. The fact that he is taking so long to sell a concern the size of Charlton when there have been interest from numerous buyers really just raises a huge question mark over his competence as a businessman. Has he no pride or self awareness?
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happyvalley said:1674, The skeletons of 2 children are discovered at the Tower of London. It was thought at the time they were The Princes in the Tower.
I wonder what skeletons we will find when RD eventually goes?3 -
Any updates @Airman Brown?0
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Stop falling for Roland's lies.soapboxsam said:So the situation is not an impasse but a total stalemate.
Why did Chappel, Whitehand and Sumner make loans which would be paid back if we make the Premier yet now want to be paid out in full ?
Did they invest money with Neil Woodford or Richard Rufus and now have cash flow problems ?
The three directors are not blocking any takeover.
They don't have to be paid now, any owner can roll the bonds over.
But if the current owner wants them settled he has to pay them in full, to those three at least.
Why do people not still grasp that blaming the three directors is what Duchatelet wants you to do so you don't blame him.32 -
Folks, at the present time Roland isn’t going to be paying off the loans.0
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The difference is, I would've had a date for the loan to be paid back, say 5 years, Not the unlikely event of Charlton ever getting to the Premier again.Pedro45 said:
Would you make a loan and not expect it to be paid in full? The ex-directors are obliged to wait until the club get's to the Premier League for payment, unless other things happen, like a new owner wanting clean title. It's not the ex-directors fault. Blame Roland for not doing due diligence, and getting clean title himself!soapboxsam said:So the situation is not an impasse but a total stalemate.
Why did Chappel, Whitehand and Sumner make loans which would be paid back if we make the Premier yet now want to be paid out in full ?
Did they invest money with Neil Woodford or Richard Rufus !
If I was a potential new owner ( it ain't happening sam) I would get in touch with the Ex directors and promise a bonus if they sit tight because I know the TV revenue would cover the Promotion to the premier.
Not just cover it but be less than 8% of the amount paid to promoted clubs.
This is why new owners wanting clean titles doesn't have to be the case.
Lack of a skilled broker who can sweet talk the shit weasel and bring a resolution to this issue as well.
The hero to Zero status of Richard Murray who has 50% of the 7 million loans isn't helping with his relationship with the rest of the directors.0
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