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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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I heard similar from an unreliable source.: - )cafc999 said:N01R4M said:
Who was offering £45m at Christmas @Airman Brown ?Airman Brown said:
He agreed £33m with the Aussies before the play-off final and then changed his mind and said they had to resolve the directors’ loans. He could have had £45m at Christmas but asked for £72m.Henry Irving said:
But Roland changed the price on the Aussie by adding on the previously "all sorted, not a problem" directors bonds.ken_shabby said:Just curious. Did the Aussies accept RD's valuation of the club - I thought I heard that mentioned. So possibly the reason RD feels he can arse around with the other bidders when they offer a more realistic valuation of the worth of Charlto Athletic, is that he has a bid somewhere on the table which approximates to what he wants, even though it never seems near to being achieved. In which case, the presence of the Aussies is an active hindrance.
None of this takes into account RD and his utter failure to have any sort of business nous, but even by his standards, his ability to drive off every other offer must have some basis, however arcane.
The Aussies are NOT the problem here as much as people keep trying to make it so.
Duchatelet is the problem.
The Europeans and Dalman have been messed about on the price and negotiations. The Aussie had a deal but Duchatelet changed it.
And if the Aussies are a problem and unreliable than Duchatelet could have just taken one of the many other offers, but he hasn't.
Duchatelet wants too much and he wants protection from any liabilities as well as future payments on success and player sales.
Duchatelet is the problem.
According to the Fans Forum minutes, there were 5 potential buyers around at that time!
Spoke to an ex player recently who said a group (which involved a CAFC fan) had spoken to RD and offered £45m
He turned it down
£45m is way too much but still he wants more and more. He still wants the add ons, the sell ons, the old directors paid off.
And when he doesn't get it he blames the fans, the EFL, everyone but his greedy irrational self.14 -
Mine was just a light hearted comment not to be taken seriously.Stu_of_Kunming said:
No he wasn't, just because that's what RD is asking for, doesn't mean it's what the club is worth, which is what Napa said.Oggy Red said:
Napa was nearly right then!Airman Brown said:
He agreed £33m with the Aussies before the play-off final and then changed his mind and said they had to resolve the directors’ loans.Henry Irving said:
But Roland changed the price on the Aussie by adding on the previously "all sorted, not a problem" directors bonds.ken_shabby said:Just curious. Did the Aussies accept RD's valuation of the club - I thought I heard that mentioned. So possibly the reason RD feels he can arse around with the other bidders when they offer a more realistic valuation of the worth of Charlto Athletic, is that he has a bid somewhere on the table which approximates to what he wants, even though it never seems near to being achieved. In which case, the presence of the Aussies is an active hindrance.
None of this takes into account RD and his utter failure to have any sort of business nous, but even by his standards, his ability to drive off every other offer must have some basis, however arcane.
The Aussies are NOT the problem here as much as people keep trying to make it so.
Duchatelet is the problem.
The Europeans and Dalman have been messed about on the price and negotiations. The Aussie had a deal but Duchatelet changed it.
And if the Aussies are a problem and unreliable than Duchatelet could have just taken one of the many other offers, but he hasn't.
Duchatelet wants too much and he wants protection from any liabilities as well as future payments on success and player sales.
Duchatelet is the problem.
He could have had £45m at Christmas but asked for £72m.
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So anyway, this house I’m buying...3
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How long will RD live for?0
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I really don't want to dig out the post, but I thought he was demonstrating Dushitaface's valuation...Stu_of_Kunming said:
No he wasn't, just because that's what RD is asking for, doesn't mean it's what the club is worth, which is what Napa said.Oggy Red said:
Napa was nearly right then!Airman Brown said:
He agreed £33m with the Aussies before the play-off final and then changed his mind and said they had to resolve the directors’ loans.Henry Irving said:
But Roland changed the price on the Aussie by adding on the previously "all sorted, not a problem" directors bonds.ken_shabby said:Just curious. Did the Aussies accept RD's valuation of the club - I thought I heard that mentioned. So possibly the reason RD feels he can arse around with the other bidders when they offer a more realistic valuation of the worth of Charlto Athletic, is that he has a bid somewhere on the table which approximates to what he wants, even though it never seems near to being achieved. In which case, the presence of the Aussies is an active hindrance.
None of this takes into account RD and his utter failure to have any sort of business nous, but even by his standards, his ability to drive off every other offer must have some basis, however arcane.
The Aussies are NOT the problem here as much as people keep trying to make it so.
Duchatelet is the problem.
The Europeans and Dalman have been messed about on the price and negotiations. The Aussie had a deal but Duchatelet changed it.
And if the Aussies are a problem and unreliable than Duchatelet could have just taken one of the many other offers, but he hasn't.
Duchatelet wants too much and he wants protection from any liabilities as well as future payments on success and player sales.
Duchatelet is the problem.
He could have had £45m at Christmas but asked for £72m.
Still outrageous of a valuation either way.0 -
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PLEASE BE DONE RIGHT NOW AS WE LEAST EXPECT IT!1
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Eternityhoof_it_up_to_benty said:How long will RD live for?0 -
I understand what you are saying, but consistently he has failed to add depth to the squad, last year he refused Bowyer’s request to add an out of contract player to the wage bill. But this year he’s spending £4m on a player! I don’t doubt what he’s telling Bowyer, there’s an excuse as to why we don’t get players we are supposedly after every year so forgive me if I’m pessimistic about anything until it’s done. 😉CAFCBell said:
Richard Cawley articleCAFCBell said:2 -
So as said the Djiksteel money was going on Toney, 2m. Once Peterborough wanted more than that the only way we’d sign him was by selling Taylor. There was never any real chance Taylor and Toney would play together.6
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We know Roland reads CL so I think Napa has a lot to answer for , Roland read Napa's valuation and he's based the clubs price on that.
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And we know Napa blames the fans1
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So does Duchatelet.Henry Irving said:And we know Napa blames the fans
Anyway I'm sure Napa is a nice chap really.0 -
Never seen in the same room though are theyOggy Red said:
So does Duchatelet.Henry Irving said:And we know Napa blames the fans
Anyway I'm sure Napa is a nice chap really.;);) 3 -
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Where's @oohaahmortimer when you need him.....ShootersHillGuru said:
I rate a Bowyer very very highly but there is zero chance of a promotion this season.Greenie said:The Rat is on a win win ATM.
He gives Bow and Co a shit budget in L1 and Bow gets us promoted so The Rat hoicks up the price. He then gives Bow another shit budget for the Championship (I understand that as it stands we could break even this season), should Bow pull of another miracle the Rat gets loaded with Prem money!
Rattys played a blinder if you ask me, he disgusts me but he’s doing well (for himself)Dave2l said:BartramBlitz said:Amazed to look on here and see we are on my birth year. No end in sight to this thread.
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Not originally.Dazzler21 said:
I really don't want to dig out the post, but I thought he was demonstrating Dushitaface's valuation...Stu_of_Kunming said:
No he wasn't, just because that's what RD is asking for, doesn't mean it's what the club is worth, which is what Napa said.Oggy Red said:
Napa was nearly right then!Airman Brown said:
He agreed £33m with the Aussies before the play-off final and then changed his mind and said they had to resolve the directors’ loans.Henry Irving said:
But Roland changed the price on the Aussie by adding on the previously "all sorted, not a problem" directors bonds.ken_shabby said:Just curious. Did the Aussies accept RD's valuation of the club - I thought I heard that mentioned. So possibly the reason RD feels he can arse around with the other bidders when they offer a more realistic valuation of the worth of Charlto Athletic, is that he has a bid somewhere on the table which approximates to what he wants, even though it never seems near to being achieved. In which case, the presence of the Aussies is an active hindrance.
None of this takes into account RD and his utter failure to have any sort of business nous, but even by his standards, his ability to drive off every other offer must have some basis, however arcane.
The Aussies are NOT the problem here as much as people keep trying to make it so.
Duchatelet is the problem.
The Europeans and Dalman have been messed about on the price and negotiations. The Aussie had a deal but Duchatelet changed it.
And if the Aussies are a problem and unreliable than Duchatelet could have just taken one of the many other offers, but he hasn't.
Duchatelet wants too much and he wants protection from any liabilities as well as future payments on success and player sales.
Duchatelet is the problem.
He could have had £45m at Christmas but asked for £72m.
Still outrageous of a valuation either way.0 -
At 23 Tomey would be a good investment at 4 Million. One good season in the Championship would see him worth treble the money by current standards so I think it just made good business sense even to Duchatelet .0
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Who then refuses to get into dialogue when pulled up with his (silly)comment.Henry Irving said:And we know Napa blames the fans2 -
The paradox with Duchatelet is why didn't he quickly offer Joe Aribo a competitive wage with a sell on clause (Gallen/Bowyer would have recommended this) last December instead of losing him for the nominal amount ? The lack of a CEO with nous ? The lack of a CEO period.TEL said:At 23 Tomey would be a good investment at 4 Million. One good season in the Championship would see him worth treble the money by current standards so I think it just made good business sense even to Duchatelet .
Has Duchatelet at any of his clubs ever paid big bucks for players ? Toney in, Taylor out sounds feasible in the mind of Duchatelet.
The Sale of Charlton looks further away than ever. It's imperative that Bowyer and Duchatelet have a dialogue and have a hot line direct to each other.
We can't afford to lose Bowyer and team so while the fans and Douchebag relationship is toxic, Lee must befriend RD. (The 10pm Volte-face direct call may of started the process)
One day our Prince will come. (Or Princess )
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Irrelevant Bowyer being in contact with Dushitelet. He only listens to people his side of the water.soapboxsam said:
The paradox with Duchatelet is why didn't he quickly offer Joe Aribo a competitive wage with a sell on clause (Gallen/Bowyer would have recommended this) last December instead of losing him for the nominal amount ? The lack of a CEO with nous ? The lack of a CEO period.TEL said:At 23 Tomey would be a good investment at 4 Million. One good season in the Championship would see him worth treble the money by current standards so I think it just made good business sense even to Duchatelet .
Has Duchatelet at any of his clubs ever paid big bucks for players ? Toney in, Taylor out sounds feasible in the mind of Duchatelet.
The Sale of Charlton looks further away than ever. It's imperative that Bowyer and Duchatelet have a dialogue and have a hot line direct to each other.
We can't afford to lose Bowyer and team so while the fans and Douchebag relationship is toxic, Lee must befriend RD. (The 10pm Volte-face direct call may of started the process)
One day our Prince will come. (Or Princess )1 -
We need Bowyer to stay. He needs to deal directly with Duchatelet. No agents, no passing on info second hand by Roland's yes men.ElfsborgAddick said:
Irrelevant Bowyer being in contact with Dushitelet. He only listens to people his side of the water.soapboxsam said:
The paradox with Duchatelet is why didn't he quickly offer Joe Aribo a competitive wage with a sell on clause (Gallen/Bowyer would have recommended this) last December instead of losing him for the nominal amount ? The lack of a CEO with nous ? The lack of a CEO period.TEL said:At 23 Tomey would be a good investment at 4 Million. One good season in the Championship would see him worth treble the money by current standards so I think it just made good business sense even to Duchatelet .
Has Duchatelet at any of his clubs ever paid big bucks for players ? Toney in, Taylor out sounds feasible in the mind of Duchatelet.
The Sale of Charlton looks further away than ever. It's imperative that Bowyer and Duchatelet have a dialogue and have a hot line direct to each other.
We can't afford to lose Bowyer and team so while the fans and Douchebag relationship is toxic, Lee must befriend RD. (The 10pm Volte-face direct call may of started the process)
One day our Prince will come. (Or Princess )
The fans have burnt the bridges with RD, and he has reciprocated.
Bowyer and Gallen need a good working relationship with the eccentric old fool.
This club could be in the wilderness for a decade if Bowyer walks in the summer, where the only way is down and down again.
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That's the nagging fear that won't go away.soapboxsam said:ElfsborgAddick said:
Irrelevant Bowyer being in contact with Dushitelet. He only listens to people his side of the water.soapboxsam said:
The paradox with Duchatelet is why didn't he quickly offer Joe Aribo a competitive wage with a sell on clause (Gallen/Bowyer would have recommended this) last December instead of losing him for the nominal amount ? The lack of a CEO with nous ? The lack of a CEO period.TEL said:At 23 Tomey would be a good investment at 4 Million. One good season in the Championship would see him worth treble the money by current standards so I think it just made good business sense even to Duchatelet .
Has Duchatelet at any of his clubs ever paid big bucks for players ? Toney in, Taylor out sounds feasible in the mind of Duchatelet.
The Sale of Charlton looks further away than ever. It's imperative that Bowyer and Duchatelet have a dialogue and have a hot line direct to each other.
We can't afford to lose Bowyer and team so while the fans and Douchebag relationship is toxic, Lee must befriend RD. (The 10pm Volte-face direct call may of started the process)
One day our Prince will come. (Or Princess )
This club could be in the wilderness for a decade if Bowyer walks in the summer, where the only way is down and down again.3 -
The number and quality of new faces in the squad suggests to me that Bowyer has been exercising the art of "Managing upwards" this summer.ElfsborgAddick said:
soapboxsam said: We need Bowyer to stay. He needs to deal directly with Duchatelet. No agents, no passing on info second hand by Roland's yes men.Irrelevant Bowyer being in contact with Dushitelet. He only listens to people his side of the water.
The fans have burnt the bridges with RD, and he has reciprocated.
Bowyer and Gallen need a good working relationship with the eccentric old fool.
This club could be in the wilderness for a decade if Bowyer walks in the summer, where the only way is down and down again.
If as a result of ongoing contact RD has developed confidence in Bowyer, that can only be to the future benefit of the club, because LB knows far more about both the game and the business of football than do LdT or did KM. It is vanishingly unlikely that Bowyer would knowingly recommend to RD something to the detriment of CAFC.
Although RD implied otherwise in his diatribe, I'm sure none of us would dream of including Bowyer in the list of CARD's "RD Collaborators" who are in protesters' cross-hairs.
There is IMO zero chance that relations between fans and RD can ever be repaired, and I remain of the opinion we should take whatever opportunities present themselves to remind him, his friends, business and political acquaintances what an arse he is in all things football-related. ie we should maintain the pressure on him to sell.
However, RD's still here and it seems there is little prospect of that changing soon. So if Bowyer can deal directly with RD and thereby reduce/postpone the harm he would otherwise do to the club, more power to his elbow!
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3 days with no posts!
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If we'd gone four days takeover would have happened.
Thanks a lot.23
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