The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Is that your opinion as spokesman for the TRUST?Henry Irving said:I think we should all just accept that the club's not for sale, they have learnt from their mistakes, whoever they pick as manager is the right man who we all need to give a chance to for at least the next two transfer windows.
Stop moaning, stop protesting and support the club as it could be worse.
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If I win the euro lottery, I will make Roly an offer for the ground. I wouldn't buy the club as that would be Spunking money away, but at least securing the ground would be a start.1
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Unfortunately Henry there are still some supporters who think thisHenry Irving said:I think we should all just accept that the club's not for sale, they have learnt from their mistakes, whoever they pick as manager is the right man who we all need to give a chance to for at least the next two transfer windows.
Stop moaning, stop protesting and support the club as it could be worse.2 -
I'd go halves and building work would commence immediately with the Directors box being relocated to the centre blocks of the top tier of The Covered End about halfway down.All_Thaid_Up said:If I win the euro lottery, I will make Roly an offer for the ground. I wouldn't buy the club as that would be Spunking money away, but at least securing the ground would be a start.
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I worked for a company that sold out to a group of investors whose only interest was getting the monthly repayments on the money invested.
It was a disaster.
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I have "moved on" from the potential sale.
At this point it is too late in the year from regime change to get good players of any stripe in the transfer market, as deals are already coming into place. Even if announced today, it would take 2 weeks to make official and then new people coming in... we would not even be at square one by opening day.
Karl seems like he is staying and I don't see anyone better coming in at this late stage.
And, as awful as it sounds, I would rtaher have RD own the whole club than drain our life blood by keeping the stadium. At least if he owns it all, the losses belong to him.
I am now looking to next season and no longer thinking about a sale I don't think is going to happen, and even if it did, would be to Aussie owners who can't seem to scrape together enough cash tofund the purchase.0 -
I believe that Duchatelet will hang on for at least another year. If we gain promotion the value of the club will rocket and if not, or we get relegated, that would probably also make him sell. The budget he gives Robinson will tell us a lot. I have heard a whisper that it could be quite a substantial sum but as I say, we will have to be patient.0
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Alternatively lack of movement generally and various rumours might be sign of something - who knows1
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They have spent substantial sums before ......addick05 said:I believe that Duchatelet will hang on for at least another year. If we gain promotion the value of the club will rocket and if not, or we get relegated, that would probably also make him sell. The budget he gives Robinson will tell us a lot. I have heard a whisper that it could be quite a substantial sum but as I say, we will have to be patient.
On a complete crock of shite and led us to 13th in League One ffffs28 -
Exactly. Giving Driesen and Meire a significant sum is just the footballing equivalent of Harry Enfield's 'I saw you coming' sketch.oohaahmortimer said:
They have spent substantial sums before ......addick05 said:I believe that Duchatelet will hang on for at least another year. If we gain promotion the value of the club will rocket and if not, or we get relegated, that would probably also make him sell. The budget he gives Robinson will tell us a lot. I have heard a whisper that it could be quite a substantial sum but as I say, we will have to be patient.
On a complete crock of shite and led us to 13th in League One ffffs4 - Sponsored links:
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I reckon he's seen. The offers on the table but they don't meet his valuation. I reckon by Christmas when we are completely out of the promotion race he will see the light and start seriously speaking to parties.3
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I think there are less days ahead then are behind with RD. His valuation is like an ebay listing with a silly buy-it-now price; *RARE* South East London Football Club for sale! LAST ONE!
Hes put it on there in the hope that some idiot will come along desperate enough to pay that price which can happen, but once the listing has been on for a month and no one is biting, he will be forced to relist it for less. Then for even less the following month, and even less again.....
This is what will happen with Charlton and RD, hes going to sit on his silly price for the next few months, and at the same time the club will be costing him millions to keep running with no real return, especially with no Lookmans to sell. This will become increasingly uncomfortable for him especially if we dont look like we are going up next season.
I think this will take a good year to play out, but he will be forced to drop his price over and over, and if hes still here in a years time after another poor L1 season, his asking price will be dramatically lower. I cant see him being the owner much longer beyond that.
The worrying question is, will he still keep the Valley?2 -
People were saying that last year, and the year beforecantersaddick said:I reckon he's seen. The offers on the table but they don't meet his valuation. I reckon by Christmas when we are completely out of the promotion race he will see the light and start seriously speaking to parties.
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That's the thing, he has Konsa and Aribo on the books, that should offset his losses for another yearCAFCTrev said:I think there are less days ahead then are behind with RD. His valuation is like an ebay listing with a silly buy-it-now price; *RARE* South East London Football Club for sale! LAST ONE!
Hes put it on there in the hope that some idiot will come along desperate enough to pay that price which can happen, but once the listing has been on for a month and no one is biting, he will be forced to relist it for less. Then for even less the following month, and even less again.....
This is what will happen with Charlton and RD, hes going to sit on his silly price for the next few months, and at the same time the club will be costing him millions to keep running with no real return, especially with no Lookmans to sell. This will become increasingly uncomfortable for him especially if we dont look like we are going up next season.
I think this will take a good year to play out, but he will be forced to drop his price over and over, and if hes still here in a years time after another poor L1 season, his asking price will be dramatically lower. I cant see him being the owner much longer beyond that.
The worrying question is, will he still keep the Valley?0 -
Nowhere near the value of LookmanJ BLOCK said:
That's the thing, he has Konsa and Aribo on the books, that should offset his losses for another yearCAFCTrev said:I think there are less days ahead then are behind with RD. His valuation is like an ebay listing with a silly buy-it-now price; *RARE* South East London Football Club for sale! LAST ONE!
Hes put it on there in the hope that some idiot will come along desperate enough to pay that price which can happen, but once the listing has been on for a month and no one is biting, he will be forced to relist it for less. Then for even less the following month, and even less again.....
This is what will happen with Charlton and RD, hes going to sit on his silly price for the next few months, and at the same time the club will be costing him millions to keep running with no real return, especially with no Lookmans to sell. This will become increasingly uncomfortable for him especially if we dont look like we are going up next season.
I think this will take a good year to play out, but he will be forced to drop his price over and over, and if hes still here in a years time after another poor L1 season, his asking price will be dramatically lower. I cant see him being the owner much longer beyond that.
The worrying question is, will he still keep the Valley?7 -
Konsa and Aribo will go for a fraction of Lookman's fee.3
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We would all like to think that the lack of early business is a symptom of a regime change being close, but it is simply due to us being a basket case with a miniscule budget.3
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Would they though? Even combined they wouldnt get half of what Lookman cost.J BLOCK said:
That's the thing, he has Konsa and Aribo on the books, that should offset his losses for another yearCAFCTrev said:I think there are less days ahead then are behind with RD. His valuation is like an ebay listing with a silly buy-it-now price; *RARE* South East London Football Club for sale! LAST ONE!
Hes put it on there in the hope that some idiot will come along desperate enough to pay that price which can happen, but once the listing has been on for a month and no one is biting, he will be forced to relist it for less. Then for even less the following month, and even less again.....
This is what will happen with Charlton and RD, hes going to sit on his silly price for the next few months, and at the same time the club will be costing him millions to keep running with no real return, especially with no Lookmans to sell. This will become increasingly uncomfortable for him especially if we dont look like we are going up next season.
I think this will take a good year to play out, but he will be forced to drop his price over and over, and if hes still here in a years time after another poor L1 season, his asking price will be dramatically lower. I cant see him being the owner much longer beyond that.
The worrying question is, will he still keep the Valley?0 -
So many people scratched records....0
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i dont want to appear like a killjoy but isnt it about time this thread was closed1
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Well.......
My view is RD will sell or divert the owership to a third party by the time he's 75 anyway. In 4 years. His asking price is so high at present, that - given other factors - I can't see anyone investing in a UK club at the price he requires. There is absolutely no evidence that he will take any notice of protests locally or in Belgium. And on that point if we do end up being crashed out of the EU by Mrs May with no sensible arrangements (her intention, in my view) anyone with a UK passport will need to have a visa to visit the EU to protest about him and will have to pay for it in advance.
That leaves us with a max of 4 years under RD's control during which time my guess would be that Robinson or someone like him will remain/be our manager. It's not clear to me we'd mount a promotion challenge. Most likely we'd be in mid-table or slightly above. The club and the ground would at least remain under the same ownership - and should, of course, at all costs.
Last season, with all the draws and narrow odd goal defeats, was frustrating and uneven but if we'd only been able to be a bit more adventurous and our forwards hadn't been firing blanks the play-offs would have been entirely possible. We were only 12-13 points off them after all (so different results in maybe 8 games would have done it).2 -
Why can't he just sell up and fu*k off?5
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Yet ... also wasn't Lookman 7.5M ish up front? Not going to be a million miles awaykillerandflash said:
Nowhere near the value of LookmanJ BLOCK said:
That's the thing, he has Konsa and Aribo on the books, that should offset his losses for another yearCAFCTrev said:I think there are less days ahead then are behind with RD. His valuation is like an ebay listing with a silly buy-it-now price; *RARE* South East London Football Club for sale! LAST ONE!
Hes put it on there in the hope that some idiot will come along desperate enough to pay that price which can happen, but once the listing has been on for a month and no one is biting, he will be forced to relist it for less. Then for even less the following month, and even less again.....
This is what will happen with Charlton and RD, hes going to sit on his silly price for the next few months, and at the same time the club will be costing him millions to keep running with no real return, especially with no Lookmans to sell. This will become increasingly uncomfortable for him especially if we dont look like we are going up next season.
I think this will take a good year to play out, but he will be forced to drop his price over and over, and if hes still here in a years time after another poor L1 season, his asking price will be dramatically lower. I cant see him being the owner much longer beyond that.
The worrying question is, will he still keep the Valley?0 -
Konsa and Aribo are worth less than half what was paid for Lookman0
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We might get 2-3 mil for Konsa and 1 mil for Aribo.
We would be stupid to sell either. Which means we will do so.0 -
I doubt we would get £1.5 million for the pair.5
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I can see the potential in Konsa but I'm not as convinced by Aribo. He's more of an attacking midfielder and hasn't yet scored a goal for us. Still young but 21 this summer, older than most played that have broken through in recent years.
I'm sure there's more to come from him but if Robinson gets the players he wants I doubt he'd be in our starting 11 (so while RD is still here he probably will be). Think he's one we'll hang on to at least until he's proven himself a bit more.5 -
Someone remind me what we sold Cousins for? Way better than either Konsa or Aribo on what I have seen.6
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Konsa and Aribo are comparable with Cousins, indeed I think Konsa is a bit better than Cousins was at a similar age.
The troubling aspect is how much we are all guilty of commodifying young players.
These guys are young, not all develop at the same rate, some are consistent, some take two steps forward and one back frequently, some respond to brutal challenge, some to careful nurture.
To my mind, when it comes to Aribo and Konsa, they need benevolent understanding as much as anything and they will develop further, but football can be a brutal industry as Poyet and Piggott have found out.11
