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The General Election - June 8th 2017

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  • Molly Scott Cato of the Greens having a blinder on Andrew Neil, NOT. Already had a "I can't remember the figures for that" pmsl
  • edited April 2017
    Interestingly close in some places.
    Most marginal seats in the UK - based on 2015 results

    Edit - I aligned it in the draft....sorry, almost unreadable.
    From the BBC page http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39655379

    Constituency Winner 2nd place Majority Majority %
    Gower Con Lab 27 0.1
    Derby North Con Lab 41 0.1
    City of Chester Lab Con 93 0.2
    Croydon Central Con Lab 165 0.3
    Ealing & Acton Lab Con 274 0.5
    Roxburgh/Selkirk SNP Con 328 0.6
    Anglesey Lab PC 229 0.7
    Vale Of Clwyd Con Lab 237 0.7
    Brentford Lab Con 465 0.8
    Bury North Con Lab 378 0.8
  • Corbyn must be delighted with Blair's announcement today as reported on The World at One.

    Although he has previously ruled out standing for Parliament again after an absence of 10 years, Mr Blair said:
    "I look at the British political scene at the moment and I actually almost feel motivated to go right back into it," he added. "We're just allowing ourselves to be hijacked by what is actually quite a small group of people with a strong ideology."

    Mr Blair stepped down from frontline politics in 2007 but has become more politically active in recent months, setting up a think tank in London to make the case for the centre ground and for continued EU membership.

    He told the BBC that the opinion polls suggested Prime Minister Theresa May's Conservatives were on course for a landslide victory and he "wasn't totally sure" what Labour's position was on Brexit.

    He described Theresa May as "very sensible" and "a perfectly decent person" but said her policy on leaving the EU was "not reasonable" and that it was driven by the right wing of her party.
  • Corbyn must be delighted with Blair's announcement today as reported on The World at One.

    Although he has previously ruled out standing for Parliament again after an absence of 10 years, Mr Blair said:
    "I look at the British political scene at the moment and I actually almost feel motivated to go right back into it," he added. "We're just allowing ourselves to be hijacked by what is actually quite a small group of people with a strong ideology."

    Mr Blair stepped down from frontline politics in 2007 but has become more politically active in recent months, setting up a think tank in London to make the case for the centre ground and for continued EU membership.

    He told the BBC that the opinion polls suggested Prime Minister Theresa May's Conservatives were on course for a landslide victory and he "wasn't totally sure" what Labour's position was on Brexit.

    He described Theresa May as "very sensible" and "a perfectly decent person" but said her policy on leaving the EU was "not reasonable" and that it was driven by the right wing of her party.

    You forgot the bit where he responded to the interviewer's question about which party he was going to vote for.
  • What did he say...I cant see it on the website?
  • Monster Raving Looney?
  • seth plum said:

    Monster Raving Looney?

    So Corbyn then ;0)

  • I'll guess he will vote for the party that best serves his interest.

    Multi-millionaire, multi home owning (some say $37 million worth), powerful ex barrister businessman who considered knighting Syria's President Bashar al-Assad, public boarding schoolboy, brother of a high court judge, friend of media moguls Murdoch and Desmond
    .
    Let me see.......

    Was it the Greens?
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  • What's the score with Farron skirting round the gay sex issue then? Not very liberal, and with him wanting to re do the referendum, he don't seem very democratic either (In the words of David Wooding)
  • What's the score with Farron skirting round the gay sex issue then? Not very liberal, and with him wanting to re do the referendum, he don't seem very democratic either (In the words of David Wooding)

    One of the strongest voting records on LGBT rights in parliament, so not much. Made a hash of it rather than anything else
  • I'll guess he will vote for the party that best serves his interest.

    Multi-millionaire, multi home owning (some say $37 million worth), powerful ex barrister businessman who considered knighting Syria's President Bashar al-Assad, public boarding schoolboy, brother of a high court judge, friend of media moguls Murdoch and Desmond
    .
    Let me see.......

    Was it the Greens?

    Not conforming to you stereotype then?
  • aliwibble said:

    I never saw this response. What was it?

    I am 25 years old now and i don't feel much affinity to any political party as such. I don't warm towards parties on the left because i see them as anti-aspiration.

    I pay my taxes. If i work hard and climb the ladder, why should my efforts be massively penalised?

    If i have a child, why can't i send them to a private school?

    Why should bright children from poor backgrounds be denied access to a grammar school just to fit into the socialist agenda. A total waste of talent.

    Anti aspiration.

    what's aspirational about going to private school exactly?

    No riff raff
    Depends on your definition of riff-raff. There certainly was no shortage of little shits at the one my friend used to teach at.
  • I'll guess he will vote for the party that best serves his interest.

    Multi-millionaire, multi home owning (some say $37 million worth), powerful ex barrister businessman who considered knighting Syria's President Bashar al-Assad, public boarding schoolboy, brother of a high court judge, friend of media moguls Murdoch and Desmond
    .
    Let me see.......

    Was it the Greens?

    Not conforming to you stereotype then?
    Something wrong with the post?
    Nothing that bothers you about it?

    He is everything the left wing claim to hate.
    So many stereotypes are there to be challenged.

  • What's the score with Farron skirting round the gay sex issue then? Not very liberal, and with him wanting to re do the referendum, he don't seem very democratic either (In the words of David Wooding)

    That's religion. It makes otherwise nice people think nasty things.
  • What did he say...I cant see it on the website?

    Labour
  • I'll guess he will vote for the party that best serves his interest.

    Multi-millionaire, multi home owning (some say $37 million worth), powerful ex barrister businessman who considered knighting Syria's President Bashar al-Assad, public boarding schoolboy, brother of a high court judge, friend of media moguls Murdoch and Desmond
    .
    Let me see.......

    Was it the Greens?

    Not conforming to you stereotype then?
    Something wrong with the post?
    Nothing that bothers you about it?

    He is everything the left wing claim to hate.
    So many stereotypes are there to be challenged.



    No, he is everything you claim the left to hate. You paint the beliefs of a few as the entirety of Corbyn's support. Most do not have a problem with success or him working hard to enter a tough profession twice. I've contemplated many stupid ideas over the years as certainly as you have, but ultimately it ended with him deciding not to give a knighthood to someone. Most people don't have a problem with people having a private education, nor having a family member that is a a member of the judiciary . Personally, I can even forgive cosying up to Murdock, who has tortured leaders before and since, especially when you talk about electability. I would suggest that most people, even those on the left, hate Blair for different reasons. I suppose that is how you form a straw man argument though.

  • You've not read much of this thread then, or chosen to ignore the more extreme posts perhaps, but I understand you are only expressing your opinion.

    Sweeping use of 'most' by the way!
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  • McBobbin said:

    Does Blair genuinely not realise what a weeping polyp on the anus of this country he is?

    A perfect description of the war mongering slug
  • C_A_F_C said:

    Labour have announced an additional 4 bank holidays (UK has the lowest public holidays in Europe) St David's Day (March 1), St Patrick's Day (March 17), St George's Day (April 23) and St Andrew's Day (November 30)

    Well that's stupid, it'll mean up to 7 bank holidays between march and may, then just 1 between then and late November.

    Plus Easter can be the same weekend as at George's day.

    We need more bank holidays, but we need them in summer and autumn, not all crush into 2 months of spring.
    I think it's a good idea but i see your point, maybe the early May Bank Holiday could be moved to July.
    Having May day in July wouldn't make much sense! :smile:

    It would be renamed Corbyn Day of course.
  • edited April 2017

    You've not read much of this thread then, or chosen to ignore the more extreme posts perhaps, but I understand you are only expressing your opinion.

    Sweeping use of 'most' by the way!

    I just see them as that, extreme posts. When it comes to this thread especially, as all the normal people have either left or didn't even open it!

    You were right, it was sweeping, but I don't think I claimed anything outrageous. I would be amazed if the majority of people, even those on the left, have a problem with others being successful, having a judge for a brother or having a private education. Open minded in my opinion to be shown I am wrong.
  • seth plum said:

    McBobbin said:

    Does Blair genuinely not realise what a weeping polyp on the anus of this country he is?

    Especially when looking at all the new schools built under his watch in Lewisham, Southwark and Greenwich.
    He did so much good, especially at the start... And then so spectacularly trashed it. When you consider the crap prime ministers we had either side he should be a legend
  • SDAddick said:

    Corbyn must be delighted with Blair's announcement today as reported on The World at One.

    Although he has previously ruled out standing for Parliament again after an absence of 10 years, Mr Blair said:
    "I look at the British political scene at the moment and I actually almost feel motivated to go right back into it," he added. "We're just allowing ourselves to be hijacked by what is actually quite a small group of people with a strong ideology."

    Mr Blair stepped down from frontline politics in 2007 but has become more politically active in recent months, setting up a think tank in London to make the case for the centre ground and for continued EU membership.

    He told the BBC that the opinion polls suggested Prime Minister Theresa May's Conservatives were on course for a landslide victory and he "wasn't totally sure" what Labour's position was on Brexit.

    He described Theresa May as "very sensible" and "a perfectly decent person" but said her policy on leaving the EU was "not reasonable" and that it was driven by the right wing of her party.

    Yeah so Hillary Clinton has started giving speeches again as well. And both have done some good things in their time in politics/the limelight, and some very bad things in their time in politics, namely the Iraq War (and suiciding people if you believe in certain things, RIP Vince Foster and Dr. David Kelly). But what they really seem to fail to understand is, nobody cares what you think right now. We don't need you. You're not moving the conversation forward. I know you must feel awkward when you're alone and not speaking to cameras or large crowds, but we really just need you to be alone right now. Cheers.

    Maybe I'm wrong on this. Maybe enough time has passed with Blair. But given that time is linear, it sure feels like there isn't enough time for large swathes of the electorate to think to themselves once again "What would Tony Blair say about this?"
    I just can't accept the use of 'suicide' as a verb. But having looked it up apparently some definitions allow it as a verb. Is 'suiciding' a commonly used word in the US?
  • SDAddick said:

    Corbyn must be delighted with Blair's announcement today as reported on The World at One.

    Although he has previously ruled out standing for Parliament again after an absence of 10 years, Mr Blair said:
    "I look at the British political scene at the moment and I actually almost feel motivated to go right back into it," he added. "We're just allowing ourselves to be hijacked by what is actually quite a small group of people with a strong ideology."

    Mr Blair stepped down from frontline politics in 2007 but has become more politically active in recent months, setting up a think tank in London to make the case for the centre ground and for continued EU membership.

    He told the BBC that the opinion polls suggested Prime Minister Theresa May's Conservatives were on course for a landslide victory and he "wasn't totally sure" what Labour's position was on Brexit.

    He described Theresa May as "very sensible" and "a perfectly decent person" but said her policy on leaving the EU was "not reasonable" and that it was driven by the right wing of her party.

    Yeah so Hillary Clinton has started giving speeches again as well. And both have done some good things in their time in politics/the limelight, and some very bad things in their time in politics, namely the Iraq War (and suiciding people if you believe in certain things, RIP Vince Foster and Dr. David Kelly). But what they really seem to fail to understand is, nobody cares what you think right now. We don't need you. You're not moving the conversation forward. I know you must feel awkward when you're alone and not speaking to cameras or large crowds, but we really just need you to be alone right now. Cheers.

    Maybe I'm wrong on this. Maybe enough time has passed with Blair. But given that time is linear, it sure feels like there isn't enough time for large swathes of the electorate to think to themselves once again "What would Tony Blair say about this?"
    I just can't accept the use of 'suicide' as a verb. But having looked it up apparently some definitions allow it as a verb. Is 'suiciding' a commonly used word in the US?
    No no it's very much exclusive to conspiracy theory circles, and I only use it sarcastically.
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