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Derek1952
Derek1952 Posts: 779
in General Charlton
Not seen this any where on here,but BBC New in Brief says David Martin is leaving MK Dons.As K.R said he is looking for a keeper for next season,is he coming to Charlton.
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  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,359
    Derek1952 said:

    Not seen this any where on here,but BBC New in Brief says David Martin is leaving MK Dons.As K.R said he is looking for a keeper for next season,is he coming to Charlton.

    I'll ask Alvin when I see him.
  • andynelson
    andynelson Posts: 1,951
    Dillon Phillips deserves better. I will be sorry to see him go, and am sure he will have a good career, which I will follow.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,033
    Flog off another Youth Player for as much as possible and bring in a Freebie as his replacement

    "We've learnt from our mistakes"
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Dillon will be looking to go out on loan if he doesn't look like being #1 next season. 100%
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,790
    edited April 2017
    I think Phillips should be No1 next season. I like him. One thing that impressed me which is out of the ordinary was at at home to Bristol Rovers where he let their player go past him early on and score a goal when the alternative was a penalty and sending off. I think a lot of goalkeepers would have done the latter, and it showed great maturity and intelligence which I like in a keeper. What decision yoiu take in the early minutes and the latter minutes should be different - we ended up winning comfortably whereas had he made the wrong choice a defeat would have been likely!
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    MuttleyCAFC said:

    I think Phillips should be No1 next season

    So do I

    So does he

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,033
    MuttleyCAFC said:

    I think Phillips should be No1 next season

    Easy choice... Make him No.1 - Bring in a 36-39 year old as No.2 on loan as backup to Dillon... Means we can spend the money on more needed positions!!
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,261
    It would be hilariously us if the one time we have a youth product that's actually ready to take over in the first team instead of being rushed in for budget reasons we brought a more experienced player in to push him down the pecking order.

    Also, David Martin looks a little bit like Simon Church and that is really going to piss some people off
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,308
    Swisdom said:

    Dillon will be looking to go out on loan if he doesn't look like being #1 next season. 100%

    I doubt either him or Rudd will be at the club at the start of the season
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited April 2017
    Steve Martin would be more in keeping with our comedy club.

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  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,486
    edited April 2017
    I could have sworn he'd already played for us.

    31 years old, 250 appearances for M.K. Dons, knows the division and has been promoted out of it. The few times I've seen him he's looked a good shot-stopper. Experienced in the league and available on a free it seems. I don't know how this all of a sudden descended into "well Dillon will go then." It's hard to see us signing Rudd permanently so we will need an experienced goalkeeper. Dillon Phillips is 21. He's talented, no question, but remember what happened to Nick Pope when he was thrown in for long stretches without adequate cover when he was not quite ready?

    It could also allow Mitov, Beeney, or maybe both to go out on loan.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,393
    I don't think, Phillips is ready for a regular first team spot, he might not ever be .. those who think that we can 'sell him off' for a profit are VERY optimistic, there would not be a long list of clubs looking to sign him .. he'll be a good stand by and see how he progresses through regular 'education' and second string games
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,697
    Lincsaddick said:

    I don't think, Phillips is ready for a regular first team spot, he might not ever be .. those who think that we can 'sell him off' for a profit are VERY optimistic, there would not be a long list of clubs looking to sign him .. he'll be a good stand by and see how he progresses through regular 'education' and second string games

    don't need a long list, one Club would be enough. Cheltenham were willing to pay a fee.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    I can't think of much Phillips did too wrong when he played. He improved with every game I seem to recall.
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    Lincsaddick said:

    I don't think, Phillips is ready for a regular first team spot, he might not ever be .. those who think that we can 'sell him off' for a profit are VERY optimistic, there would not be a long list of clubs looking to sign him .. he'll be a good stand by and see how he progresses through regular 'education' and second string games

    How much have you seen him? He didn't do much wrong when he played in the first team. He is a good solid character and a good solid goalkeeper that won't let anyone down.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,602
    I'd be happy for Martin to come in, give Philips the shirt and tell him its his to lose (or something that is a bit more motivational). If Martin does not like that then don't sign him.
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,655
    The stats give Phillips an average of 6.73 from 8 games which included 3 MoMs, Rudd's average is 6.45 with 1 MoM
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,817
    Rudds a good keeper & had an excellent game at Coventry. However, the ball bounces off his chest far too may times (watched his warms ups against the Gills & this happened a few times & then again during the match)
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,393
    dickplumb said:

    Lincsaddick said:

    I don't think, Phillips is ready for a regular first team spot, he might not ever be .. those who think that we can 'sell him off' for a profit are VERY optimistic, there would not be a long list of clubs looking to sign him .. he'll be a good stand by and see how he progresses through regular 'education' and second string games

    How much have you seen him? He didn't do much wrong when he played in the first team. He is a good solid character and a good solid goalkeeper that won't let anyone down.
    saw him around 5 times .. I am NOT stating that he is a bad keeper, just that he does not fill me with confidence and I got the idea that the defenders were always a little bit apprehensive with him in goal .. as I typed above, I'd be happy for him to be a number 2 and to learn and improve .. However, I would NOT be happy if he were to be our number one regular keeper for next season .. Rudd makes a few mistakes, what keeper at this level doesn't, BUT I'd be happier if he or another more experienced keeper were our number 1 next season
  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172
    edited April 2017
    Garrymanilow said:

    It would be hilariously us if the one time we have a youth product that's actually ready to take over in the first team instead of being rushed in for budget reasons we brought a more experienced player in to push him down the pecking order.

    Also, David Martin looks a little bit like Simon Church and that is really going to piss some people off

    Not half as much as it would piss off Alvin Martin (who says that Simon Church never scores?)

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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,090
    edited April 2017
    Phillips made 13 appearances this season according to the OS and I didn't see him make one mistake.

    I can't recall reading he made any crucial mistakes.

    He was extremely unlucky to be dropped for Rudd's return, but it was the right decision, as you can't have Rudd on loan and not play him.

    However, if Rudd is going (surely), I find it bizarre that Phillips isn't given a crack as No1.

    I say this on the basis that this regime has been more than willing to throw in U23's when they are clearly not ready, so why is Phillips being treated the opposite of the others ?
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    I have seen him for the U18s, U23s through to the first team. I am not calling you out Lincs but why are you judging him so harshly after seeing him play for five games. You say he didn't fill you with confidence, but other people who have seen him for the first team say he did little wrong. Rudd has made a number of mistakes but is a good keeper. Personally I would be pretty pissed off if we got rid of Phillips.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,090
    dickplumb said:

    I have seen him for the U18s, U23s through to the first team. I am not calling you out Lincs but why are you judging him so harshly after seeing him play for five games. You say he didn't fill you with confidence, but other people who have seen him for the first team say he did little wrong. Rudd has made a number of mistakes but is a good keeper. Personally I would be pretty pissed off if we got rid of Phillips.

    If we are looking for 2 goalies. I presume KR has a no1 lined up, hopefully not the MKD lad and Phillips won't be no 2 for another season.

    PS I'm expecting KR to recruit as many MKD players as he can, which will probably be between 3-5.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,393
    dickplumb said:

    I have seen him for the U18s, U23s through to the first team. I am not calling you out Lincs but why are you judging him so harshly after seeing him play for five games. You say he didn't fill you with confidence, but other people who have seen him for the first team say he did little wrong. Rudd has made a number of mistakes but is a good keeper. Personally I would be pretty pissed off if we got rid of Phillips.

    it's all a matter of opinion .. mine is stated above ..
  • Horsfield9
    Horsfield9 Posts: 3,082
    Covered End said:

    dickplumb said:

    I have seen him for the U18s, U23s through to the first team. I am not calling you out Lincs but why are you judging him so harshly after seeing him play for five games. You say he didn't fill you with confidence, but other people who have seen him for the first team say he did little wrong. Rudd has made a number of mistakes but is a good keeper. Personally I would be pretty pissed off if we got rid of Phillips.

    If we are looking for 2 goalies. I presume KR has a no1 lined up, hopefully not the MKD lad and Phillips won't be no 2 for another season.

    PS I'm expecting KR to recruit as many MKD players as he can, which will probably be between 3-5.
    I'm half expecting the name change to MK Athletic or Charlton Dons too.

  • agim
    agim Posts: 1,135
    KR has worked with this keeper before. It makes sense in him bringing in a player he trusts, you have to trust your keeper.
    I haven't seen much of Philips but if he's as good as you guys are saying then I'm sure he will get a chance somewhere along the line.
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,499
    I don't understand why Phillips was dropped - if Rudd goes he deserves a starting position. He can't sit on the bench indefinitely.
    I thought he looked a lot more assured than Pope and will only get better with experience.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Phillips will be looking to move on loan if he is not starting next season and you can't blame him. He's been here since he was 7 years old and is happy here but he needs to be starting games now.

    I agree he looked more assured than Pope but I guess we don't see him in training every day. Definitely harsh when he was dropped though. Really felt for him because I think he is one of those who will go on to have a decent career in the game. Hope it is with us.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,790
    His average is 6.73 with 3 MOTMs I think I read - in a poor season - that says all that needs saying.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Phillips would be my Number 1 choice for next season. As stated earlier up in the thread, get an older head in as back up.

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