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The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)

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  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    Leuth said:

    Valley11 said:

    Hate to say it but I've got a bad feeling about this season.
    The close season so far reeks of familiarity. No senior goalkeeper, no deal for KR pin-up boy Reeves, only negotiating a loan for £800k big buy Nicky, the kit not ready for Ireland and no release date for the new home and away one, three friendlies back to back, network no hopers lingering. I dunno, it all feels worryingly familiar. Piss up in a brewery springs to mind.

    It's almost like you want it to be a bad season
    This old chestnut. Yes I want Charlton to fail. That's why I support them, to see them doing badly. I crave another season of terrible decisionsfrom top to bottom resulting in relegation. It's what I get out of bed for in the morning.....
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596
    edited July 2017
    On the bright side, this is the first ever Ms Nightmeire season where we have the same manager we had at the end of the previous one.

    He may be an irritating idiot but at least he's the same irritating idiot.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,765

    On the bright side, this is the first ever Ms Nightmeire season where we have the same manager we had at the end of the previous one.

    He may be an irritating idiot but at least he's the same irritating idiot.

    Apart from that one instance with Luzon a couple of years ago and that season went really we.... oh.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977

    Swisdom said:

    Bury are in League 2 so not really an issue we are strengthening them is it.

    And, let's be honest, Ajose is really rather shit.

    Howler from a regime apologist
    Particularly after seeing who he was mixing with at UCD.
    Care to let the rest of us know Elfie?
    It's nothing exciting. I was at all 3 games in Ireland with the squad. Sat with The Parkes' and my father.
    Travelled with them and some of the CAFC staff there too.

    Quite what that's got to do with Bury's finishing position is anyone's guess
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,677
    If we can bring in an experienced goalkeeper and Da Silva I won't be to concerned about the players we have.
    My concern is the way Robinson wants to set the team up.
    I actually think that by keeping Holmes and signing Marshall and Clarke we have the players to play 4 4 2.
    This would allow us to play 2 strikers instead of just Magennis on his own.
    But even if things are not going right I think Robinson will stick with his preferred system regardless.
  • luke1
    luke1 Posts: 203
    I don't really know what people expect with the Ajose business, i think it's actually a good deal for us. Yes he goes to a promotion rival but he doesn't fit into our system and nobody is going to pay a good fee to take him off our hands. He is limited to who he can join because championship teams wouldn't be interested and most bottom half league 1 teams simply couldn't afford his wage. It's a win win for us in my eyes, if he bangs them in then we can get our money back and if its us and Bury up the top come Christmas i'm sure we'll have a re-call in the Jan window. We've managed to lose his wage which i'm sure is pretty high, so hopefully we can replace him now with someone who does fit KR system.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    I really don't see Bury as a promotion rival anyway. This is a team that finished 1 point above relegation, it would be an incredible turnaround, even with the signings they've made, to go from that to promotion contenders
  • Essex_Al
    Essex_Al Posts: 3,582
    luke1 said:

    I don't really know what people expect with the Ajose business, i think it's actually a good deal for us. Yes he goes to a promotion rival but he doesn't fit into our system and nobody is going to pay a good fee to take him off our hands. He is limited to who he can join because championship teams wouldn't be interested and most bottom half league 1 teams simply couldn't afford his wage. It's a win win for us in my eyes, if he bangs them in then we can get our money back and if its us and Bury up the top come Christmas i'm sure we'll have a re-call in the Jan window. We've managed to lose his wage which i'm sure is pretty high, so hopefully we can replace him now with someone who does fit KR system.

    Agreed Luke.

    Apart from that he's living off of one good season at Swindon. He was rubbish before that and rubbish since. All this nonsense about us not playing to his strengths, if he was any good he'd still be scoring whatever!
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,232
    It would be good if postings could be just about transfer rumours.
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596

    If we can bring in an experienced goalkeeper and Da Silva I won't be to concerned about the players we have.
    My concern is the way Robinson wants to set the team up.
    I actually think that by keeping Holmes and signing Marshall and Clarke we have the players to play 4 4 2.
    This would allow us to play 2 strikers instead of just Magennis on his own.
    But even if things are not going right I think Robinson will stick with his preferred system regardless.

    I think it's called sticking with a losing system.
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  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    Leuth said:

    Valley11 said:

    Hate to say it but I've got a bad feeling about this season.
    The close season so far reeks of familiarity. No senior goalkeeper, no deal for KR pin-up boy Reeves, only negotiating a loan for £800k big buy Nicky, the kit not ready for Ireland and no release date for the new home and away one, three friendlies back to back, network no hopers lingering. I dunno, it all feels worryingly familiar. Piss up in a brewery springs to mind.

    It's almost like you want it to be a bad season
    For me a good season would be breaking that all time club record of 21 draws in a season. We came agonisingly close last season and the consolidationist in me craves it

    Failing that I would like us to reintroduce the 3-0 reverses that were very popular and prominent in the 15/16 season
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811

    If we can bring in an experienced goalkeeper and Da Silva I won't be to concerned about the players we have.
    My concern is the way Robinson wants to set the team up.
    I actually think that by keeping Holmes and signing Marshall and Clarke we have the players to play 4 4 2.
    This would allow us to play 2 strikers instead of just Magennis on his own.
    But even if things are not going right I think Robinson will stick with his preferred system regardless.

    The signing of Clarke is the opposite of players signed suitable for a 442. He is not a CM nor a striker.
    I dont mind KR trying his 4231 but he needs to try other formations too, unfortunately I doubt he will as per your last point.
  • DeeBee
    DeeBee Posts: 1,033
    Valley11 said:

    It's not losing Ajose. It's the way in which it's done that points to problems. Can you remember when the club had competent people in charge who ran the club smoothly?

    Valley11 said:

    It's not losing Ajose. It's the way in which it's done that points to problems. Can you remember when the club had competent people in charge who ran the club smoothly?

    If you're referring to 10 years ago you really need to stop living in the past mate
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,232
    edited July 2017
    DeeBee said:

    Valley11 said:

    It's not losing Ajose. It's the way in which it's done that points to problems. Can you remember when the club had competent people in charge who ran the club smoothly?

    Valley11 said:

    It's not losing Ajose. It's the way in which it's done that points to problems. Can you remember when the club had competent people in charge who ran the club smoothly?

    If you're referring to 10 years ago you really need to stop living in the past mate
    If the people in charge 10 years ago were so competent how come the club almost went into administration?
  • DeeBee
    DeeBee Posts: 1,033
    edited July 2017
    Crusty54 said:

    DeeBee said:

    Valley11 said:

    It's not losing Ajose. It's the way in which it's done that points to problems. Can you remember when the club had competent people in charge who ran the club smoothly?

    Valley11 said:

    It's not losing Ajose. It's the way in which it's done that points to problems. Can you remember when the club had competent people in charge who ran the club smoothly?

    If you're referring to 10 years ago you really need to stop living in the past mate
    If the people in charge 10 years ago were so competent how come the club almost went into administration?
    Alright I wasn't trying to big up any board more just making a point that we haven't been very well run for a long time
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,311
    Swisdom said:

    Swisdom said:

    Bury are in League 2 so not really an issue we are strengthening them is it.

    And, let's be honest, Ajose is really rather shit.

    Howler from a regime apologist
    Particularly after seeing who he was mixing with at UCD.
    Care to let the rest of us know Elfie?
    It's nothing exciting. I was at all 3 games in Ireland with the squad. Sat with The Parkes' and my father.
    Travelled with them and some of the CAFC staff there too.

    Quite what that's got to do with Bury's finishing position is anyone's guess
    Says a lot about you
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,039
    rjh157 said:

    I haven't signed in to this for almost a year, and I have just remembered why! Everyone on here turns what has been a reasonably good start to pre-season and a time (If not the only time) to be positive into worry, negativity and panic.

    Katrien is a moron, Duchatelet is emotionless and disinterested, however they are not going, we can not make them, and Charlton fans, who without doubt in 24 years of supporting them have always been as bad as Arsenal fans, forgetting any positive and jumping head first towards the negative are contributing heavily to our downfall!

    Back the team for balls sake!

    For what it's worth, mistake after mistake is difficult to take, but I don't see those same mistakes coming in this year yet! Signed some decent british players, kept hold of our best players, haven't really heard from Katrien at all, the first 2 weeks training was a step in the right direction, and we have charlton back into the club in terms of coaches.

    Phillips

    Solly, Pearce, Konsa, Page (When fit)

    JFC Kashi

    Marshall Clarke Holmes

    Magennis

    stands for decent reading without signings (Which there is plenty of time for!!!)

    Not to mention

    Tex, Bauer, Crofts, Watt, Fosu, Aribo, Ahearne-Grant, Barnes, Lennon, Ceballos and some decent youngsters in and around

    So cheer up, back the team, ignore 'the regime' and stop ruddy moaning!

    Clueless.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    DeeBee said:

    Crusty54 said:

    DeeBee said:

    Valley11 said:

    It's not losing Ajose. It's the way in which it's done that points to problems. Can you remember when the club had competent people in charge who ran the club smoothly?

    Valley11 said:

    It's not losing Ajose. It's the way in which it's done that points to problems. Can you remember when the club had competent people in charge who ran the club smoothly?

    If you're referring to 10 years ago you really need to stop living in the past mate
    If the people in charge 10 years ago were so competent how come the club almost went into administration?
    Alright I wasn't trying to big up any board more just making a point that we haven't been very well run for a long time
    Mid 2000s I guess was the last time when it all was working well on and off the field. Mid table PL side, ground expanded sensibly, transfer spending effective and affordable, great relations between club and supporters, supporters being shareholders...
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596
    Hats off for finally silencing Ms Nightmeire and all that but how many pseudonyms does that Tom Rubinshaw bloke have on Charlton Life for God's sake?

  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    J BLOCK said:

    Swisdom said:

    Swisdom said:

    Bury are in League 2 so not really an issue we are strengthening them is it.

    And, let's be honest, Ajose is really rather shit.

    Howler from a regime apologist
    Particularly after seeing who he was mixing with at UCD.
    Care to let the rest of us know Elfie?
    It's nothing exciting. I was at all 3 games in Ireland with the squad. Sat with The Parkes' and my father.
    Travelled with them and some of the CAFC staff there too.

    Quite what that's got to do with Bury's finishing position is anyone's guess
    Says a lot about you
    I don't agree with his views but he can't exactly be expected to shun friends etc. Sue may have said things she should regret and that has besmurched her husbands hard work but the response has not been very mature. Anyway @swisdom carry on sitting with anybody you lile but try to understand why the regime is viewed as the enemy by the vast majority of supporters.
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  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,701
    The majority of people on this site slagged Nicky Ajose off for being lazy, uninterested & just poor overall! We loan him out to possibly make room for someone else and everyone is going on like the world has ended!
    KR is looking like he will want to play a high pressing, fast paced game with all this fitness training going on and Ajose is poacher who come up with a cracker from the edge of the box. He doesn't fit into that system does he? Free the wages up and sign someone who can be arsed to play for the club.

    Yes the regime is shit and I would love them to f**k off but Christ, get behind the team and support them as best you can as there the ones we want to see do well, not RD or KM.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,311
    cfgs said:

    J BLOCK said:

    Swisdom said:

    Swisdom said:

    Bury are in League 2 so not really an issue we are strengthening them is it.

    And, let's be honest, Ajose is really rather shit.

    Howler from a regime apologist
    Particularly after seeing who he was mixing with at UCD.
    Care to let the rest of us know Elfie?
    It's nothing exciting. I was at all 3 games in Ireland with the squad. Sat with The Parkes' and my father.
    Travelled with them and some of the CAFC staff there too.

    Quite what that's got to do with Bury's finishing position is anyone's guess
    Says a lot about you
    I don't agree with his views but he can't exactly be expected to shun friends etc. Sue may have said things she should regret and that has besmurched her husbands hard work but the response has not been very mature. Anyway @swisdom carry on sitting with anybody you lile but try to understand why the regime is viewed as the enemy by the vast majority of supporters.
    cfgs said:

    J BLOCK said:

    Swisdom said:

    Swisdom said:

    Bury are in League 2 so not really an issue we are strengthening them is it.

    And, let's be honest, Ajose is really rather shit.

    Howler from a regime apologist
    Particularly after seeing who he was mixing with at UCD.
    Care to let the rest of us know Elfie?
    It's nothing exciting. I was at all 3 games in Ireland with the squad. Sat with The Parkes' and my father.
    Travelled with them and some of the CAFC staff there too.

    Quite what that's got to do with Bury's finishing position is anyone's guess
    Says a lot about you
    I don't agree with his views but he can't exactly be expected to shun friends etc. Sue may have said things she should regret and that has besmurched her husbands hard work but the response has not been very mature. Anyway @swisdom carry on sitting with anybody you lile but try to understand why the regime is viewed as the enemy by the vast majority of supporters.
    yes he can
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376

    The majority of people on this site slagged Nicky Ajose off for being lazy, uninterested & just poor overall! We loan him out to possibly make room for someone else and everyone is going on like the world has ended!
    KR is looking like he will want to play a high pressing, fast paced game with all this fitness training going on and Ajose is poacher who come up with a cracker from the edge of the box. He doesn't fit into that system does he? Free the wages up and sign someone who can be arsed to play for the club.

    Yes the regime is shit and I would love them to f**k off but Christ, get behind the team and support them as best you can as there the ones we want to see do well, not RD or KM.

    Think you'd find in most cases they're different people.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    J BLOCK said:

    cfgs said:

    J BLOCK said:

    Swisdom said:

    Swisdom said:

    Bury are in League 2 so not really an issue we are strengthening them is it.

    And, let's be honest, Ajose is really rather shit.

    Howler from a regime apologist
    Particularly after seeing who he was mixing with at UCD.
    Care to let the rest of us know Elfie?
    It's nothing exciting. I was at all 3 games in Ireland with the squad. Sat with The Parkes' and my father.
    Travelled with them and some of the CAFC staff there too.

    Quite what that's got to do with Bury's finishing position is anyone's guess
    Says a lot about you
    I don't agree with his views but he can't exactly be expected to shun friends etc. Sue may have said things she should regret and that has besmurched her husbands hard work but the response has not been very mature. Anyway @swisdom carry on sitting with anybody you lile but try to understand why the regime is viewed as the enemy by the vast majority of supporters.
    cfgs said:

    J BLOCK said:

    Swisdom said:

    Swisdom said:

    Bury are in League 2 so not really an issue we are strengthening them is it.

    And, let's be honest, Ajose is really rather shit.

    Howler from a regime apologist
    Particularly after seeing who he was mixing with at UCD.
    Care to let the rest of us know Elfie?
    It's nothing exciting. I was at all 3 games in Ireland with the squad. Sat with The Parkes' and my father.
    Travelled with them and some of the CAFC staff there too.

    Quite what that's got to do with Bury's finishing position is anyone's guess
    Says a lot about you
    I don't agree with his views but he can't exactly be expected to shun friends etc. Sue may have said things she should regret and that has besmurched her husbands hard work but the response has not been very mature. Anyway @swisdom carry on sitting with anybody you lile but try to understand why the regime is viewed as the enemy by the vast majority of supporters.
    yes he can
    Oh ok sorry for trying to be reasonable. Grab the pitchforks and burn them all.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I thought the debate about Ajose was about not using him to highlight his strengths. A waspish goalscorer who enjoys his greatest success in the box.
    We have not been overwhelmed by slagging off regarding him.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,311
    cfgs said:

    J BLOCK said:

    cfgs said:

    J BLOCK said:

    Swisdom said:

    Swisdom said:

    Bury are in League 2 so not really an issue we are strengthening them is it.

    And, let's be honest, Ajose is really rather shit.

    Howler from a regime apologist
    Particularly after seeing who he was mixing with at UCD.
    Care to let the rest of us know Elfie?
    It's nothing exciting. I was at all 3 games in Ireland with the squad. Sat with The Parkes' and my father.
    Travelled with them and some of the CAFC staff there too.

    Quite what that's got to do with Bury's finishing position is anyone's guess
    Says a lot about you
    I don't agree with his views but he can't exactly be expected to shun friends etc. Sue may have said things she should regret and that has besmurched her husbands hard work but the response has not been very mature. Anyway @swisdom carry on sitting with anybody you lile but try to understand why the regime is viewed as the enemy by the vast majority of supporters.
    cfgs said:

    J BLOCK said:

    Swisdom said:

    Swisdom said:

    Bury are in League 2 so not really an issue we are strengthening them is it.

    And, let's be honest, Ajose is really rather shit.

    Howler from a regime apologist
    Particularly after seeing who he was mixing with at UCD.
    Care to let the rest of us know Elfie?
    It's nothing exciting. I was at all 3 games in Ireland with the squad. Sat with The Parkes' and my father.
    Travelled with them and some of the CAFC staff there too.

    Quite what that's got to do with Bury's finishing position is anyone's guess
    Says a lot about you
    I don't agree with his views but he can't exactly be expected to shun friends etc. Sue may have said things she should regret and that has besmurched her husbands hard work but the response has not been very mature. Anyway @swisdom carry on sitting with anybody you lile but try to understand why the regime is viewed as the enemy by the vast majority of supporters.
    yes he can
    Oh ok sorry for trying to be reasonable. Grab the pitchforks and burn them all.
    Apology accepted
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,223

    The majority of people on this site slagged Nicky Ajose off for being lazy, uninterested & just poor overall! We loan him out to possibly make room for someone else and everyone is going on like the world has ended!
    KR is looking like he will want to play a high pressing, fast paced game with all this fitness training going on and Ajose is poacher who come up with a cracker from the edge of the box. He doesn't fit into that system does he? Free the wages up and sign someone who can be arsed to play for the club.

    Yes the regime is shit and I would love them to f**k off but Christ, get behind the team and support them as best you can as there the ones we want to see do well, not RD or KM.

    No.
    Not everyone and as @scoham said different people.

    I didn't think he was ever lazy or uninterested, just poor.

    Few are bothered that he not in the squad more that it's another loan and another drain on wages.

    And please don't tell me to get behind the team and support them. I do and I don't need you to tell me to thanks.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    I'm not sure why it's assumed if you're critical of the club in any way on the internet it means you don't get behind the team at games.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    Scoham said:

    I'm not sure why it's assumed if you're critical of the club in any way on the internet it means you don't get behind the team at games.

    This
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,223
    Scoham said:

    I'm not sure why it's assumed if you're critical of the club in any way on the internet it means you don't get behind the team at games.

    Exactly, it because people care that they are critical of this regime. They want their team and club to be better. I know I do.