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The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)

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  • Surely if Dean Kiely has been sacked by Norwich he can go wherever he wants as the Clause in Neil's Contract won't be applicable to Kiely now as he's not on the Norwich payroll?
    Yes - I suppose now Kiely is no longer employed by Norwich the poaching clause is not valid.
    The local newspaper reported that Kiely would not be joining Preston.
    Be good if he returned to Charlton.

  • vff said:

    Sarr is on a contract until 2020. It is unclear whether he will improve or whether the blunders can be coached out of his game. Also whether Sarr is any good in the air or suited to British football, particularly in league one, where that is essential.

    Lennon is on a contract to 2018, promising at times, did well at Gillingham, but has been injured & needs to improve on fitness.

    Given the length of contract & the likelihood of Sarr being anything but a back up central defender & the question as whether Sarr can cope with aerial part of the game, if Charlton could move on Sarr on favourable terms without having to subsidise half his wages, It would be Sarr to go for me.

    Sarr could improve though, anything is possible, even Sheff Utd came good eventually.
    Sarr has many fault, but whenever I've seen him play he has always looked good in the air.
  • Can the coaching staff improve Sarr ? He has all the physical attributes .
    I'd argue that this is literally their job, and something that I think gets overlooked far too often in the modern game. This British notion of hiring "Managers" who look to "bring in their own men" is antiquated. You should first try to make the players you have better. That's what a coach does. None of this wheeler dealer nonsense.

    By the way, I'm not saying Robinson has done this necessarily. I think each of his signings have addressed a weakness in the squad, even if all of them don't pan out.
  • sam3110 said:

    Sarr is very good in the air and more comfortable on the ball than Lennon, Bauer or Pearce. He is quicker than them all too, despite being the most physically imposing of the lot. I believe his weaknesses are awareness, concentration and positional sense relating to his teammates

    Exactly.

    He "looks" like a modern football and am sure has great stats on FM or FIFA which explains why Driesen recommended him but he just wasn't any good when he played football for us.
  • Exactly.

    He "looks" like a modern football and am sure has great stats on FM or FIFA which explains why Driesen recommended him but he just wasn't any good when he played football for us.
    Yeah but the people at Lyon, Sporting, and the French youth setup seemed to think he was a decent footballer...
  • SDAddick said:

    Yeah but the people at Lyon, Sporting, and the French youth setup seemed to think he was a decent footballer...
    Did sporting or Lyon keep him or take him back last season? Is he getting in the French team now?
  • Did sporting or Lyon keep him or take him back last season? Is he getting in the French team now?
    No. But my point is Driessen isn't the only one who saw something in him because of his FM/FIFA stats.
  • Driesen didn't see anything in him because he wouldn't have saw him at all!
  • sam3110 said:

    Sarr is very good in the air and more comfortable on the ball than Lennon, Bauer or Pearce. He is quicker than them all too, despite being the most physically imposing of the lot. I believe his weaknesses are awareness, concentration and positional sense relating to his teammates

    He's god awful ; I cannot imagine he has got better after his loan spell
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  • Someone on Facebook saying Robinson is after Alex Bruce don't know how true !!
  • I'd be very surprised if Alex Bruce is playing league 1 football this season. I thought he might go Villa as a squad player
  • sam3110 said:

    Sarr is very good in the air and more comfortable on the ball than Lennon, Bauer or Pearce. He is quicker than them all too, despite being the most physically imposing of the lot. I believe his weaknesses are awareness, concentration and positional sense relating to his teammates

    Correct. But you missed out he's ****ing hopeless.
  • "Get some proper British players in" is how we ended up with Crofts btw
  • You're both right, Crofts is the result of overpaying on others, and also a fixation with getting players in. Hopefully he'll be relegated to fourth choice in central midfield this year (Kashi, JFC, Aribo).
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  • se9addick said:

    But he's played well against a couple of Irish village teams and Greenwich Borough, how are you not convinced that he's the second coming of Bobby Moore ?
    I think there's middle ground. I have seen him play 3 times, once ok and twice poorly. I don't particular want him around, I think we need 4 CB's which we have in Bauer, Lennon, Pearce and Konsa, so I would offload him. However, he's played better than Bauer so far in pre-season and I am not totally against giving him a chance if Lennon were to leave and he would be 4th choice. Wouldn't want him any higher than that though.
  • Sarr > Harry Lennon. He was never even that bad. Was poor in a poor team.
  • Sarr > Harry Lennon. He was never even that bad. Was poor in a poor team.

    I've seen him be absolutely dreadful. But I take the point that he was playing in a rotten team. Could he be ok at this level? Maybe. We didn't exactly get a huge sample of data from watching him start a handful of games.

    But claiming to know that he's better than Lennon is a bit silly.
  • I've seen him be absolutely dreadful. But I take the point that he was playing in a rotten team. Could he be ok at this level? Maybe. We didn't exactly get a huge sample of data from watching him start a handful of games.

    But claiming to know that he's better than Lennon is a bit silly.
    Lennon's main contribution in every game he's played in has been conceding penalties or getting sent off.
  • The main difference between Sarr and Lennon is that the former is on a long and expensive contract, completely out of kilter with L1 football, and one which few suitors are likely to match.

  • The main difference between Sarr and Lennon is that the former is on a long and expensive contract, completely out of kilter with L1 football, and one which few suitors are likely to match.

    That's true, but not relevant to the quality of players. I'm just saying that Lennon gets a pass from negativity because he's from the youth system while Sarr gets slagged off constantly just because KM was dumb enough to give him the deal, it's not his fault.
  • That's true, but not relevant to the quality of players. I'm just saying that Lennon gets a pass from negativity because he's from the youth system while Sarr gets slagged off constantly just because KM was dumb enough to give him the deal, it's not his fault.
    He gets slagged off because he is utter garbage.
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