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The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)
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If we only have a budget of £300k, perhaps Thomas Dreissen can help. Or Tucudean has a decent scoring record in last few years.3
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Agree it isn't insignificant but clubs will say "you got 9m for Lookman so we want more" and rightly so imo. They will also know we're desperate for a striker and so will also bump up the price. I don't expect us to sign a proven goalscorer and would imagine it'll be another loan or an unknown from Europe somewhere.Henry Irving said:£300k isn't an insignificant amount at this level.
Its not huge either but a lot of other league 1 clubs would like to be able to spend that.
PS remember KR was only allowed 5% of the Lookman money so dont expect the much trailed sale of Konsa to boost Robbo's funds.
Does anyone know the figure that was spent in the L1 winning season? Appreciate some were frees but I imagine the spending was a lot higher than this and possibly last put together.0 -
Powell has said he spent under £1m, which was funded by the Jenkinson fee. Meanwhile, Roland made more than ten times that on Lookman and won't use it for the squad.colthe3rd said:
Agree it isn't insignificant but clubs will say "you got 9m for Lookman so we want more" and rightly so imo. They will also know we're desperate for a striker and so will also bump up the price. I don't expect us to sign a proven goalscorer and would imagine it'll be another loan or an unknown from Europe somewhere.Henry Irving said:£300k isn't an insignificant amount at this level.
Its not huge either but a lot of other league 1 clubs would like to be able to spend that.
PS remember KR was only allowed 5% of the Lookman money so dont expect the much trailed sale of Konsa to boost Robbo's funds.
Does anyone know the figure that was spent in the L1 winning season? Appreciate some were frees but I imagine the spending was a lot higher than this and possibly last put together.2 -
We all know it should be WIOTOS but Watt's move doesn't seem to have been announced by either club officially.
KR says he's gone but where? Has the deal been signed off, medical done etc?5 -
They're still trying to agree how much we have to pay for them to take him.Henry Irving said:We all know it should be WIOTOS but Watt's move doesn't seem to have been announced by either club officially.
KR says he's gone but where? Has the deal been signed off, medical done etc?7 -
Well I suppose that's better than having the loans and interest payments going up every year.Airman Brown said:Konsa's fee will be earmarked to go towards this season's operating loss.
Based on how people on here wet their pants complaining about the loans and the interest I would have thought they would be delighted that they are keeping them down.0 -
The loan is inflated by £18.6m, plus interest, which Duchatelet never put into the club. What is the justification for that?kings hill addick said:
Well I suppose that's better than having the loans and interest payments going up every year.Airman Brown said:Konsa's fee will be earmarked to go towards this season's operating loss.
Based on how people on here wet their pants complaining about the loans and the interest I would have thought they would be delighted that they are keeping them down.
I can't see any reasonable basis for the club to be charged interest on what the owner paid to acquire the assets or why the purchase price should be owed by the business to the owner. That value should be in the assets that are held.
But the point is that Robinson won't be getting the fee when Konsa is sold any more than he got the fee for Lookman et al.13 -
it might explain his lack of interest for the Rovers game. If he knew the transfer was going through at the time.Henry Irving said:We all know it should be WIOTOS but Watt's move doesn't seem to have been announced by either club officially.
KR says he's gone but where? Has the deal been signed off, medical done etc?0 -
What Charlton in league one you mean?kings hill addick said:
Well I suppose that's better than having the loans and interest payments going up every year.Airman Brown said:Konsa's fee will be earmarked to go towards this season's operating loss.
Based on how people on here wet their pants complaining about the loans and the interest I would have thought they would be delighted that they are keeping them down.
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Might be worth looking abroad - Scandanavia?1
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yep I am happy to admit that I physically 'wet my pants' over the growing debt we owe to a disinterested overseas owner who wakes from his slumber every time the youth system turns up a player worth a few quid.
Mind you thats all down to the twice yearly time teamesque trench dug by our glorious leader and branded as phase 4b as he invests further in the training ground (that seems to coincide with a bad news week), onroute to fulfilling our dream of watching premiership stars of the future.
Yes I wet my pants, god bless Roland, viva le network.9 -
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Certainly less crowded than Wetherspoons in Plymouth yesterday10
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All seems a bit daft to buy, beg or borrow a striker when we already have TWO of our own that could do a decent job......Igor & Ajose. Now, what numpty would loan them out when we only have 2 experienced strikers in Mag & Novak.4
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I think Igor would rather chew Roland's toenails than pull on a Charlton shirt and Ajose just ain't up to it.golfaddick said:All seems a bit daft to buy, beg or borrow a striker when we already have TWO of our own that could do a decent job......Igor & Ajose. Now, what numpty would loan them out when we only have 2 experienced strikers in Mag & Novak.
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The problem Duchatelet is loading all the debt onto the club (including purchase price & interest charged). This includes money for all the crap decisions & rubbish contracts handed out. Duchatelet has made at least £25m in player sales & somehow the club is £50m in debt. Doesn't look to me that running costs are being met. Duchatelet at Liege took money out of their club, IMO, he is doing the same at Charlton.kings hill addick said:
Well I suppose that's better than having the loans and interest payments going up every year.Airman Brown said:Konsa's fee will be earmarked to go towards this season's operating loss.
Based on how people on here wet their pants complaining about the loans and the interest I would have thought they would be delighted that they are keeping them down.
At the same time, a tight budget is imposed, the best young players are sold, & the squad is left short. Running on the spot to stand still. It would be great to see Charlton move forward for a change. IMO, Under Duchatelet's control & strategy, that just ain't going to happen. Positive PR & nicely packaged season ticket boxes & hoping does not change the basic flawed nature of Duchatelet's strategy.18 -
Especially as we're still paying Ajose almost 2.5k a weekgolfaddick said:All seems a bit daft to buy, beg or borrow a striker when we already have TWO of our own that could do a decent job......Igor & Ajose. Now, what numpty would loan them out when we only have 2 experienced strikers in Mag & Novak.
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We talk about having a big striker up front on his own but West Ham are playing Hernández 1.75 m (5ft 7in) on his own with Arnautovic playing behind. Is that why West Ham will not get many goals?0
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I'm sure all that is true, although I don't understand why you chose to tack it on to my post.Airman Brown said:
The loan is inflated by £18.6m, plus interest, which Duchatelet never put into the club. What is the justification for that?kings hill addick said:
Well I suppose that's better than having the loans and interest payments going up every year.Airman Brown said:Konsa's fee will be earmarked to go towards this season's operating loss.
Based on how people on here wet their pants complaining about the loans and the interest I would have thought they would be delighted that they are keeping them down.
I can't see any reasonable basis for the club to be charged interest on what the owner paid to acquire the assets or why the purchase price should be owed by the business to the owner. That value should be in the assets that are held.
But the point is that Robinson won't be getting the fee when Konsa is sold any more than he got the fee for Lookman et al.
Are you saying that you would rather that when Konsa is sold you'd like Robinson to spend all that money and have the debts grow?
I am, of course, working on the assumption that RD is not going to just give the club money - before I get loads of abuse from people that want him to or, you know, give he club away and wipe off the debts.0 - Sponsored links:
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Are you suggesting that he's made a net £25m profit when transfer fees paid out have been taken off?vff said:
The problem Duchatelet is loading all the debt onto the club (including purchase price & interest charged). This includes money for all the crap decisions & rubbish contracts handed out. Duchatelet has made at least £25m in player sales & somehow the club is £50m in debt. Doesn't look to me that running costs are being met. Duchatelet at Liege took money out of their club, IMO, he is doing the same at Charlton.kings hill addick said:
Well I suppose that's better than having the loans and interest payments going up every year.Airman Brown said:Konsa's fee will be earmarked to go towards this season's operating loss.
Based on how people on here wet their pants complaining about the loans and the interest I would have thought they would be delighted that they are keeping them down.
At the same time, a tight budget is imposed, the best young players are sold, & the squad is left short. Running on the spot to stand still.
Even if not I can't for the life of me get to £25m in sales. Was that an estimation or did you add up the undisclosed transfer fees and get to £25m?0 -
I have heard from a very good source at Everton that Lookman has not settled and is very homesick. It would be great if we could get him back on loan but more likely perhaps a London Prem club like Spurs might come in for him (on a permanent move).12
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Another rumour going round for us to signFAVADDICK said:0 -
Where's that rumour come from1
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I included it because you infer that the debt doesn't matter, whereas I view it as the only reason Duchatelet still owns the club, that is other potential owners are unwilling to pay him in full for his own hugely expensive mistakes. The fact the club had an operating loss of £13.5m in getting relegated from the Championship is ridiculous and well off the scale of what should have been necessary to retain that status. As he chooses to burn money unnecessarily I am not sure why we should regard the debt as of any meaning whatsoever - except that he wants the money back. It's certainly not generosity - stupidity, more like.kings hill addick said:
I'm sure all that is true, although I don't understand why you chose to tack it on to my post.Airman Brown said:
The loan is inflated by £18.6m, plus interest, which Duchatelet never put into the club. What is the justification for that?kings hill addick said:
Well I suppose that's better than having the loans and interest payments going up every year.Airman Brown said:Konsa's fee will be earmarked to go towards this season's operating loss.
Based on how people on here wet their pants complaining about the loans and the interest I would have thought they would be delighted that they are keeping them down.
I can't see any reasonable basis for the club to be charged interest on what the owner paid to acquire the assets or why the purchase price should be owed by the business to the owner. That value should be in the assets that are held.
But the point is that Robinson won't be getting the fee when Konsa is sold any more than he got the fee for Lookman et al.
Are you saying that you would rather that when Konsa is sold you'd like Robinson to spend all that money and have the debts grow?
I am, of course, working on the assumption that RD is not going to just give the club money - before I get loads of abuse from people that want him to or, you know, give he club away and wipe off the debts.
In terms of Konsa, weakening the squad further at this stage is likely to increase the operating loss and further diminish the value of the club by making it less likely the team is promoted. So selling him to strengthen other areas in order to assist getting promoted might be sensible if the funds were well invested. Selling him now to fund the operating loss may carry a financial penalty of its own.
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No, thanks for misinterpretation though. I am wondering where all the money for player sales have gone. I am suggesting that Duchatelet is taking money out of the club & loading the club for debt for his crap decisions whilst the squad remains light.kings hill addick said:
Are you suggesting that he's made a net £25m profit when transfer fees paid out have been taken off?vff said:
The problem Duchatelet is loading all the debt onto the club (including purchase price & interest charged). This includes money for all the crap decisions & rubbish contracts handed out. Duchatelet has made at least £25m in player sales & somehow the club is £50m in debt. Doesn't look to me that running costs are being met. Duchatelet at Liege took money out of their club, IMO, he is doing the same at Charlton.kings hill addick said:
Well I suppose that's better than having the loans and interest payments going up every year.Airman Brown said:Konsa's fee will be earmarked to go towards this season's operating loss.
Based on how people on here wet their pants complaining about the loans and the interest I would have thought they would be delighted that they are keeping them down.
At the same time, a tight budget is imposed, the best young players are sold, & the squad is left short. Running on the spot to stand still.
Even if not I can't for the life of me get to £25m in sales. Was that an estimation or did you add up the undisclosed transfer fees and get to £25m?0 -
The medical could jeopardise the move.......Henry Irving said:We all know it should be WIOTOS but Watt's move doesn't seem to have been announced by either club officially.
KR says he's gone but where? Has the deal been signed off, medical done etc?0
