Like the rest of you I'm desperate for the club show some actual ambition and give promotion back to the Championship a real go so if it's not a player of Griggs calibre I'd rather we didn't bother (meaning I'd rather we waited until Jan to get the right player in).
In my eyes it's simple. We are one proven goal scorer away from a genuine shot at automatic promotion this season. Failure to do so doesn't bare thinking about.
To me that starting 11 (plus Reeves and Marshall) is good enough for a proper shot at automatic. It's not as if we've had problems scoring so far this season, other than Plymouth
I'm more worried about cover for Josh, than a replacement for Josh
I'm with you on this. Josh may not be the most prolific, but he will get better service in this team than he ever has in his career. And in our system/with our first 11, we don't necessarily need a striker who will score 20 goals. The work Josh does off the ball, pressing, holding it up, occupying defenders and pulling the opposition defense out of position creates space for others, which is huge when you have the likes of Clarke, Reeves, Marshall, Fosu, JFC, and of course Holmes behind you.
Like the rest of you I'm desperate for the club show some actual ambition and give promotion back to the Championship a real go so if it's not a player of Griggs calibre I'd rather we didn't bother (meaning I'd rather we waited until Jan to get the right player in).
In my eyes it's simple. We are one proven goal scorer away from a genuine shot at automatic promotion this season. Failure to do so doesn't bare thinking about.
To me that starting 11 (plus Reeves and Marshall) is good enough for a proper shot at automatic. It's not as if we've had problems scoring so far this season, other than Plymouth
I'm more worried about cover for Josh, than a replacement for Josh
I'm with you on this. Josh may not be the most prolific, but he will get better service in this team than he ever has in his career. And in our system/with our first 11, we don't necessarily need a striker who will score 20 goals. The work Josh does off the ball, pressing, holding it up, occupying defenders and pulling the opposition defense out of position creates space for others, which is huge when you have the likes of Clarke, Reeves, Marshall, Fosu, JFC, and of course Holmes behind you.
The thing is with Josh, he has scored two in the three games he has played for us. You then think back to those 3 games and in both the Plymouth and Northampton games, he could've easily had a hat trick. People would say about him not being the most prolific, but if he was, he wouldn't be in this league, instead he'd be top end Championship at least in my opinion.
As long as he stays fit, this side will create enough opportunities each game for Josh to score on a regular basis. He's so important to us and I firmly believe that he will score around 20 this season.
It's now about complimenting the team, having another dynamic added, another quality striker added to cover and improve. This is definitely the final piece of the jigsaw, and then we have the best shot at promotion we will ever have under our circumstances.
Like the rest of you I'm desperate for the club show some actual ambition and give promotion back to the Championship a real go so if it's not a player of Griggs calibre I'd rather we didn't bother (meaning I'd rather we waited until Jan to get the right player in).
In my eyes it's simple. We are one proven goal scorer away from a genuine shot at automatic promotion this season. Failure to do so doesn't bare thinking about.
To me that starting 11 (plus Reeves and Marshall) is good enough for a proper shot at automatic. It's not as if we've had problems scoring so far this season, other than Plymouth
I'm more worried about cover for Josh, than a replacement for Josh
I'm with you on this. Josh may not be the most prolific, but he will get better service in this team than he ever has in his career. And in our system/with our first 11, we don't necessarily need a striker who will score 20 goals. The work Josh does off the ball, pressing, holding it up, occupying defenders and pulling the opposition defense out of position creates space for others, which is huge when you have the likes of Clarke, Reeves, Marshall, Fosu, JFC, and of course Holmes behind you.
The thing is with Josh, he has scored two in the three games he has played for us. You then think back to those 3 games and in both the Plymouth and Northampton games, he could've easily had a hat trick. People would say about him not being the most prolific, but if he was, he wouldn't be in this league, instead he'd be top end Championship at least in my opinion.
As long as he stays fit, this side will create enough opportunities each game for Josh to score on a regular basis. He's so important to us and I firmly believe that he will score around 20 this season.
It's now about complimenting the team, having another dynamic added, another quality striker added to cover and improve. This is definitely the final piece of the jigsaw, and then we have the best shot at promotion we will ever have under our circumstances.
Most 'prolific' strikers score at a rate of about 1 goal per 3 chances. Occasionally they'll have a bad game and can't hit a barn door. Other games they'll be on fire and bag a hattrick, but most weeks they'll miss more then they score. It was true for D. Bent and it was true for BWP. It is also true that Josh has missed a couple of particularly good chances this season, but his strike rate is adequate at the very least, so far, and he's playing in a new look attack, having been injured/ill for a decent chunk as well.
I'm in the camp that people are underestimating Josh.
Josh is an excellent player at this level and perfect for our current system. Like Yann, he always seems to take a few games after injury to be 'back to his best' and in that period he still has 2 in 3. He also has a fantastic work rate and seems to demand the best from those around him. We cannot realistically sign a striker that is better than him.
I haven't seen Godden play, but I have seen Akinde play a few times in his career. He would be an excellent addition for us this season. His goal record in the lower leagues is superb and his work rate is very good. He was the only reason Barnet stayed up last year. After signing Ricky last summer I don't think we can judge a player just because they haven't done it above league 2. There aren't many lower league strikers I would want more than him coming on with 20 mins to go to try and get you a goal.
Josh will have to score 20+ goals if we are to get automatic promotion.
With the sheer number of chances being created this season, compared to the dearth of decent opportunities created last season - he might well get around the 20 mark. It's a numbers game: create plenty of chances and a reasonable number will get converted.
Perhaps it should also be borne in mind: nearly every 20 + goalscorer takes penalties for his team, which adds to his tally from other set pieces and open play.
Josh has four in his last six league games. It's only a small section of games, but I think he has it in his locker to get 15 plus. No reason why that shouldn't be good enough with others getting on the scoresheet as well.
Josh will have to score 20+ goals if we are to get automatic promotion.
No, why does he need to!
Bolton's top league scorers last season were four different players with 9 goals each. That includes one of their centre half's.
Spread the goals around and keep it tight at the back.
Going over old ground but we will need 70 goals to be in the playoffs. Josh scores 20 ???? We still need 50 goals spread around the team. Anything less than 20 be it through injury or otherwise and I think promotion is a non starter.
Josh will have to score 20+ goals if we are to get automatic promotion.
No, why does he need to!
Bolton's top league scorers last season were four different players with 9 goals each. That includes one of their centre half's.
Spread the goals around and keep it tight at the back.
Going over old ground but we will need 70 goals to be in the playoffs. Josh scores 20 ???? We still need 50 goals spread around the team. Anything less than 20 be it through injury or otherwise and I think promotion is a non starter.
Holmes | Forster-Caskey to get into double figures... Reckon Bauer will get at least six this season with a few to be pitched in from Pearce, dont see many from Kashi or KAG whilst Fosu as well as Novak will struggle to get near double figures.
Solly / Dasilva to get nothing whilst would hope that Reeves and Clarke can get around eight themselves.
Josh will have to score 20+ goals if we are to get automatic promotion.
No, why does he need to!
Bolton's top league scorers last season were four different players with 9 goals each. That includes one of their centre half's.
Spread the goals around and keep it tight at the back.
Going over old ground but we will need 70 goals to be in the playoffs. Josh scores 20 ???? We still need 50 goals spread around the team. Anything less than 20 be it through injury or otherwise and I think promotion is a non starter.
Holmes | Forster-Caskey to get into double figures... Reckon Bauer will get at least six this season with a few to be pitched in from Pearce, dont see many from Kashi or KAG whilst Fosu as well as Novak will struggle to get near double figures.
Solly / Dasilva to get nothing whilst would hope that Reeves and Clarke can get around eight themselves.
Josh will have to score 20+ goals if we are to get automatic promotion.
and stay injury free in order to do that.
I do not think goals from midfield is an issue this year, Holmes, Clarke, JFC etc will weigh in with a fair few, likely more than other promotion chasing midfields in this league. As other's have said a fit Mag should get 15, our main issue is whether our back up striker's have enough goals in their respective lockers to supplement injuries or dips in form.
Josh has four in his last six league games. It's only a small section of games, but I think he has it in his locker to get 15 plus. No reason why that shouldn't be good enough with others getting on the scoresheet as well.
Agree but we still need 3 senior strikers. If he's playing through injuries due to a lack of cover he won't be at his best.
Josh will have to score 20+ goals if we are to get automatic promotion.
No, why does he need to!
Bolton's top league scorers last season were four different players with 9 goals each. That includes one of their centre half's.
Spread the goals around and keep it tight at the back.
Going over old ground but we will need 70 goals to be in the playoffs. Josh scores 20 ???? We still need 50 goals spread around the team. Anything less than 20 be it through injury or otherwise and I think promotion is a non starter.
Holmes | Forster-Caskey to get into double figures... Reckon Bauer will get at least six this season with a few to be pitched in from Pearce, dont see many from Kashi or KAG whilst Fosu as well as Novak will struggle to get near double figures.
Solly / Dasilva to get nothing whilst would hope that Reeves and Clarke can get around eight themselves.
Not to mention, Marshall
Keep forgetting him along with his lil Brother: Joe Aribo who I'd hope to score one or two.
Whats frustrating is the fact that if we get another Striker it'll be great as it'll take the pressure off Magennis and Novak as we'll have another Goalscorer in the team to rely upon - At the moment the pressure is on the whole team because if they dont all work together (in terms of chipping in with goals) then we're fucked.
Josh has four in his last six league games. It's only a small section of games, but I think he has it in his locker to get 15 plus. No reason why that shouldn't be good enough with others getting on the scoresheet as well.
Agree but we still need 3 senior strikers. If he's playing through injuries due to a lack of cover he won't be at his best.
I agree. I think we need at least three. Just think that we can mount a serious challenge for automatic promotion with Magennis as our main man up top.
Josh will have to score 20+ goals if we are to get automatic promotion.
and stay injury free in order to do that.
THIS. I doesn't matter is Josh gets 15, 20 or even 25 goals this season, but it does matter if he picks up an injury next week with N.I & is out for 3 months. As my 10 year old would say........we would be in a sticky pickle.
not a rumour but Umurah has joined Wycombe on loan
Good move... Explains why he isnt in the Squad for us tonight!!
Really hope we're bringing someone else in now though, I know that Umerah isnt the most experienced but if we really do get into trouble with injuries we dont really have anyone other past Hackett-Fairchild now what with Hanlan injured already
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As long as he stays fit, this side will create enough opportunities each game for Josh to score on a regular basis. He's so important to us and I firmly believe that he will score around 20 this season.
It's now about complimenting the team, having another dynamic added, another quality striker added to cover and improve. This is definitely the final piece of the jigsaw, and then we have the best shot at promotion we will ever have under our circumstances.
I'm in the camp that people are underestimating Josh.
I haven't seen Godden play, but I have seen Akinde play a few times in his career. He would be an excellent addition for us this season. His goal record in the lower leagues is superb and his work rate is very good. He was the only reason Barnet stayed up last year. After signing Ricky last summer I don't think we can judge a player just because they haven't done it above league 2. There aren't many lower league strikers I would want more than him coming on with 20 mins to go to try and get you a goal.
Bolton's top league scorers last season were four different players with 9 goals each. That includes one of their centre half's.
Spread the goals around and keep it tight at the back.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016%E2%80%9317_Sheffield_United_F.C._season#Goals_record
As you say, doesnt matter where the goals from so long as it goes in the net!!
Perhaps it should also be borne in mind: nearly every 20 + goalscorer takes penalties for his team, which adds to his tally from other set pieces and open play.
Josh doesn't take penalties.
Solly / Dasilva to get nothing whilst would hope that Reeves and Clarke can get around eight themselves.
Whats frustrating is the fact that if we get another Striker it'll be great as it'll take the pressure off Magennis and Novak as we'll have another Goalscorer in the team to rely upon - At the moment the pressure is on the whole team because if they dont all work together (in terms of chipping in with goals) then we're fucked.
That is why a back up striker is imperative.
Really hope we're bringing someone else in now though, I know that Umerah isnt the most experienced but if we really do get into trouble with injuries we dont really have anyone other past Hackett-Fairchild now what with Hanlan injured already
Like how Wycombe announced it...
Hope he gets regular games there, unlike at Kilmarnock.
Seems to have dropped down the reckoning ove the summer so hope this gives him a lift.
Another striker going out though