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  • Nadou
    Nadou Posts: 1,725
    The very term 'rock 'n' roll' is actually about, shock horror gasp, making the beast with two backs. I think @golfaddick should also be kept away from Shakespeare's plays - Act 1 of Romeo and Juliet, for example, absolutely drips (oops) with sexual innuendo in almost every speech.


  • stevexreeve
    stevexreeve Posts: 1,386
    Watched the programme tonight. Its not an album I know much about (apart from the cover) although 3 of the songs appear on the album Meaty Beaty Big & Bouncy that I bought about 40 years ago. 

    Is it me or does Pete Townsend have a strange obsession around sex. Songs like Pictures of Lily (porn) Fiddle About (pedophilia) and one tonight about Betty's shaking hands (masterbation ?). Wont even go near his previous run in with the law.....but I get the distinct impression he has (had) some issues in his life which he seems to address through songwriting. 
    Tommy is basically about how abused children become abusers themselves in one way or another.

    Doesn't take much to work out where his songs come from.
  • Nadou
    Nadou Posts: 1,725
    Watched the programme tonight. Its not an album I know much about (apart from the cover) although 3 of the songs appear on the album Meaty Beaty Big & Bouncy that I bought about 40 years ago. 

    Is it me or does Pete Townsend have a strange obsession around sex. Songs like Pictures of Lily (porn) Fiddle About (pedophilia) and one tonight about Betty's shaking hands (masterbation ?). Wont even go near his previous run in with the law.....but I get the distinct impression he has (had) some issues in his life which he seems to address through songwriting. 
    Tommy is basically about how abused children become abusers themselves in one way or another.

    Doesn't take much to work out where his songs come from.
    I think interpretations of works of art are generally accepted to say more about the interpreter than they are about the work or the artist.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225
    Nadou said:
    @golfaddick is obviously 'woke'. Shocking songs - should all be banned. I'm going to cancel The Who and go and find a safe space.
    I hope you are ok @Nadou

    The shock must have been terrible.

    @UEAAddick says the Velvet Underground song Heroin is about drugs but I'm sure it's really about a brave woman. I mean, Rock music and drugs just don't mix.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225

    Is it me or does Pete Townsend have a strange obsession around sex. Songs like Pictures of Lily (porn) Fiddle About (pedophilia) and one tonight about Betty's shaking hands (masterbation ?). Wont even go near his previous run in with the law.....but I get the distinct impression he has (had) some issues in his life which he seems to address through songwriting. 
    I think “Squeezebox” could possibly have a double meaning as well ::-)

    Agree with Henry, most pop songs are about love and sex, I think a lot of the time people wrote stuff to see what they could get away with, it was a small victory to get something on the charts that Mary Whitehouse etc didn’t realise was a bit rude.

    Going further back, the Goons used to slip in lots of quite risque old army jokes and phrases, Harry Secombe said they would get letters of complaint six months later from old Duchesses in Cheltenham who shouldn’t have known the joke in the first place.
    And Round the Horn with Kenneth Williams and Hugh Paddock as Julien and Sandy.  All that Polari and gay innuendo in the 1960s on the BBC.


    Lola by the Kinks is about a transvestite, please, please me, how was she going to do that?

     
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,208
    Shakespeares sonnets seem to be about his gay relationship with a Lord.
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,208
    Talking to Peter Straker last night who played the acid queen in the stage production of Tommy. We were pissed and we started singing the acid queen. 
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Solidgone said:
    Talented family, they knock out some great covers.
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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Tommy live at the Royal. Albert Hall on sky arts atm. 
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,601
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Tommy live at the Royal. Albert Hall on sky arts atm. 
    I was there, fantastic show.
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,208
    Fuck. I’m out on the piss. 
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,601
    Not sure if they’ll show it but after they finished Tommy, they played a few hits including a blistering version of Join Together.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,601
    Roger Daltrey announced a UK tour this week for Nov/Dec. He's playing a selection of electric & acoustic numbers plus a Q&A session. Tickets went on sale this morning, I got mine for the Palladium on Nov 15th.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,601
    Just got tickets for their acoustic show as part of the Teenage Cancer Trust gigs at the Albert Hall in March. Get in!
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,355
    nice interview with Roger D in last Saturday's 'Times' .. he really is the most down to earth rock star ever
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,601
    Can't wait for tomorrow night, first big gig for over 2 years.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,866
    The band's name could be on the back of some Charlton squad player shirts.

    If we loan in a 35 year old left back from a club like port vale on desperate deadline day....then the who should be on that players shirt. 
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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,355
    I have to say watching 77 yr old plus geriatrics trying to be 40 or 50 years younger is sad. 
    And I am nearly that age.
    I agree to an extent .. I believe the remnants of the Who's latest gigs will be acoustic .. if they didn't sell tickets. they wouldn't do it, there is a demand for nostalgia .. BUT Jagger soon leaping about again like a demented kid ? .. like the Magic Bus price .. tooooo much ((:>)
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,481
    I have to say watching 77 yr old plus geriatrics trying to be 40 or 50 years younger is sad. 
    And I am nearly that age.
    No they’re not……they are well aware of their age and aren’t trying to be anything other than what they are ‘now’ and doing nothing more than trying to play and perform as well as they can.
    Anyone who goes to see them knows full well it’s not going to be like the past but will still live and enjoy the moment in their company.
    Knowing you won’t be there, my guess is they won’t give a fuck!
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,033
    edited March 2022
    Daltrey has also had an interesting solo career. He has a varied vocal range.

    He sang the Beggars Opera, played Judas in a BBC Radio adaptation of Jesus Christ Superstar and interestingly starred as  Doolittle in My Fair Lady at the Hollywood Bowl.I would have loved to have seen that but can imagine that he was brilliant channelling Stanley Holloway.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,601
    edited March 2022
    Fantastic show last night, they did a great job of adapting a few songs that you’d think wouldn’t work acoustically (Who are You, Baba O’Riley) and Daltrey’s voice was very strong. 
  • Nadou
    Nadou Posts: 1,725
    I have to say watching 77 yr old plus geriatrics trying to be 40 or 50 years younger is sad. 
    And I am nearly that age.
    They are playing music, not trying to be 40 or 50 years younger. Like all those great old blues singers and guitarists and contemporaries like Dylan they are able to bring a mature understanding to their songs. You should have heard Behind Blue Eyes last night or the acoustic version of Won't Get Fooled again, just Roger and Pete singing alone, in order to appreciate that. 
  • Brilliant band, brilliant songs and some great solo Lp's too. Although this part should be on the beer thread, has anyone tried Roger's beer? Met John a few times and always great fun, he was amazed I knew all his solo Lp's. I asked him to play The song Too Late The Hero, instead of Trick of the light on the 89 tour, he laughed and said blimey, you do have my albums, he did play it live with The Who later on, great song.
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,208
    Decided to go and see Roger Daltry at the London Palladium on 17th July.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,601
    Solidgone said:
    Decided to go and see Roger Daltry at the London Palladium on 17th July.
    Me too, could meet up for a beer if you fancy it T?
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,601
    edited April 2022
    Brilliant band, brilliant songs and some great solo Lp's too. Although this part should be on the beer thread, has anyone tried Roger's beer? Met John a few times and always great fun, he was amazed I knew all his solo Lp's. I asked him to play The song Too Late The Hero, instead of Trick of the light on the 89 tour, he laughed and said blimey, you do have my albums, he did play it live with The Who later on, great song.
    That’s a great song. I’ve got a signed picture disc of it. Apparently, he was persuaded to personally sign a batch of them in return for a case of whisky (not sure how true that is). 


  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,208
    Solidgone said:
    Decided to go and see Roger Daltry at the London Palladium on 17th July.
    Me too, could meet up for a beer if you fancy it T?
    Happy to meet up for a beer but I’ve also booked access to the Exclusive lounge with a couple of mates as its my birthday treat. Not sure what the Exclusive lounge entails but it better be free drinks! I’ll DM you nearer the time.