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  • edited June 2017

    dizzee said:

    Not worth 30 mil but still a good signing. If he was foreign he would be about 8 mil.

    Ederson played 1 full season for Benfica and went for £35m so that's clearly not true.
    Benfica won the league. Sunderland were relegated.

    Ederson has the potential to be in the league of Oblak, Courtois, De Gae.

    Pickford has the potential to be in the league of Begovic, Hart, Mignolet.

    Clearly true.
  • dizzee said:

    dizzee said:

    Not worth 30 mil but still a good signing. If he was foreign he would be about 8 mil.

    Ederson played 1 full season for Benfica and went for £35m so that's clearly not true.
    Benfica won the league. Sunderland were relegated.

    Ederson has the potential to be in the league of Oblak, Courtois, De Gae.

    Pickford has the potential to be in the league of Begovic, Hart, Mignolet.

    Clearly true.
    How do you know?
  • edited June 2017
    dizzee said:

    dizzee said:

    Not worth 30 mil but still a good signing. If he was foreign he would be about 8 mil.

    Ederson played 1 full season for Benfica and went for £35m so that's clearly not true.
    Benfica won the league. Sunderland were relegated.

    Ederson has the potential to be in the league of Oblak, Courtois, De Gea.

    Pickford has the potential to be in the league of Begovic, Hart, Mignolet.

    Clearly true.
    Ederson started his career at a Second Division Portuguese side
    Mignolet started his career at a well known Second Division Belgian side
    Oblak started his career with a Slovenian side

    Nothing confirmed yet that Ederson will be nothing more than a Taibi... Pickford already has a head start on all three of those players because he's got Premier League experience a year ahead of Ederson (both the same age).

    Yes Pickford might turn out to be another Hart yet at the same time have to remember that Hart at 23 was doing extremely well with Birmingham and has won the Golden Glove in the Premier League on four occasions (three on the trot), if Pickford can have the same sort of career and do better with England then I'll be more than happy.

    At the moment though it seems that because he conceded two identical goals against Scotland and because Pep Guardiola wrote him off instantly it makes it trendy for everyone to write him off as an over the hill player, yes he's the reason we didnt beat Scotland but he's also the reason we didnt lose to Slovenia!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSqyKf88HVo
  • People are also writing off Hart because he was shit in the Euros and cost Torino points due to goalkeeping blunders this season.

    Pickford is overrated though, just like 90% of young english players
  • Hart is a decent keeper who has fallen on hard times. He's lost his confidence and his technique is suffering - he's in bad nick needs a few good long sessions in the nets, to borrow a couple of cricketing terms, but he has had sustained spells where he performed much better than he currently is for both England and Man City.

    He should not be in the England squad right now. If he finds his old form again he;d be worthy of a recall, but currently Forster, Heaton, Buckland, Pickford, and Foster (although unavailable) are all English and in better form than him.

    As for Ederson/Pickford, just cos one is foreign doesn't mean he'll be amazing, and just cos one is English doesn't mean he's shite. I suspect they are both overpriced for what they are now and there are so many things that could affect them reaching their full potential that it'll be years before we can say if they delivered value for money or not. Both certainly have an awful lot to prove now and I hope the fees don't weigh heavy on them, although it's hard to gauge what is a good value transfer fee at Premier League level these days - it seems like £20m to £30m gets you what £5m to £10m did 20 years ago.
  • sam3110 said:

    People are also writing off Hart because he was shit in the Euros and cost Torino points due to goalkeeping blunders this season.

    Pickford is overrated though, just like 90% of young english players

    Hart is a very good keeper, butland potentially better, imo
  • uie2 said:

    Why on earth has David Stockdale left Brighton to join Birmingham! Weird move after winning promotion

    That's bizarre. Quality keeper.
  • Heard more than a whisper that Palace will be bidding for Joe Hart if/when Mandanda sorts a move back to France
  • dizzee said:

    Not worth 30 mil but still a good signing. If he was foreign he would be about 8 mil.

    Ederson played 1 full season for Benfica and went for £35m so that's clearly not true.
    Yeah but thats because an English club want him.

    Reckon if Belotti goes to AC Milan it'll be for around £50m, if he goes to Man Utd it'll be for £70m

    All because of the SKY money
    If Man U have bid 70m why will they sell him to Milan for 20m less?
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  • uie2 said:

    Why on earth has David Stockdale left Brighton to join Birmingham! Weird move after winning promotion

    Strange when Brighton had offered him a new deal.

    Perhaps he wanted to move up north
  • http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40271696

    Leicester City are expected to announce the signing of Hull City defender Harry Maguire in a £17m deal.
  • Scoham said:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40271696

    Leicester City are expected to announce the signing of Hull City defender Harry Maguire in a £17m deal.

    A good signing that, in a position where Leicester desperately needed cover this season
  • Scoham said:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40271696

    Leicester City are expected to announce the signing of Hull City defender Harry Maguire in a £17m deal.

    A good signing that, in a position where Leicester desperately needed cover this season
    £17M for Harry Maguire, what a nonsense. He was a decent defender at Sheff U for a number of years and now he's suddenly worth £17M !
  • Scoham said:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40271696

    Leicester City are expected to announce the signing of Hull City defender Harry Maguire in a £17m deal.

    A good signing that, in a position where Leicester desperately needed cover this season
    £17M for Harry Maguire, what a nonsense. He was a decent defender at Sheff U for a number of years and now he's suddenly worth £17M !
    The fee is nonsense (12 + add ons apparently) but then just about ALL PL transfer fees are nonsense nowadays. In relative terms, that seems a decent purchase though
  • Scoham said:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40271696

    Leicester City are expected to announce the signing of Hull City defender Harry Maguire in a £17m deal.

    He's never worth that in 17 million years! He's not good!
  • ^ if there is any truth in this then I suspect Birmingham and Harry are on their way to another administration soon
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  • Come on Harry, you know you want to sign Nabby Sarr to partner JT.
  • Classic short termism from 'Arry. I doubt that anyone's mad enough to pay £5million for the odious John Terry - I'd be surprised if he manages more than 20 games. Nor - as the ultimate Charlie Big Cigar - is he likely to do much for team spirit.

    As Athletico says, a sure route to administration. I know it's a different regime now but you'd have thought the club would have learnt their lesson with Zigic, the big Serb.
  • http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40289316

    Huddersfield sign Mooy permanently for £8m rising to £10m.

    As is usually the case with such deals with "large clubs" there are also buy-back and sell-on clauses. Buy-back clauses seem quite popular now, as a means for the giants to profit even more, if their former player turns out to be really good...
  • http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40289316

    Huddersfield sign Mooy permanently for £8m rising to £10m.

    As is usually the case with such deals with "large clubs" there are also buy-back and sell-on clauses. Buy-back clauses seem quite popular now, as a means for the giants to profit even more, if their former player turns out to be really good...

    good signing, was very impressed with him whenever I saw him play
  • http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40289316

    Huddersfield sign Mooy permanently for £8m rising to £10m.

    As is usually the case with such deals with "large clubs" there are also buy-back and sell-on clauses. Buy-back clauses seem quite popular now, as a means for the giants to profit even more, if their former player turns out to be really good...

    RM and Barca love this clause.
  • $100k a week for a championship defender would be utterly ludicrous, but not surprised its Redknapp touting it as realistic.

    Reckon Terry is a complete;y busted flush and will look just as much of a carthorse in the Championship as he did last season for Chelsea.

    He's made for Birmingham though. Scummy player, scummy club.
  • dizzee said:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40289316

    Huddersfield sign Mooy permanently for £8m rising to £10m.

    As is usually the case with such deals with "large clubs" there are also buy-back and sell-on clauses. Buy-back clauses seem quite popular now, as a means for the giants to profit even more, if their former player turns out to be really good...

    RM and Barca love this clause.
    Morata being a typical example...
  • Everton sign Klaassen from Ajax for £23.6m

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40297081
  • And Pickford for £25m. Really like the way Everton are doing things. Building an exciting squad of young players. Good manager too.
  • http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40289316

    Huddersfield sign Mooy permanently for £8m rising to £10m.

    As is usually the case with such deals with "large clubs" there are also buy-back and sell-on clauses. Buy-back clauses seem quite popular now, as a means for the giants to profit even more, if their former player turns out to be really good...

    good signing, was very impressed with him whenever I saw him play
    Moot is the modern day Ray Wilkins

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