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  • cafckev
    cafckev Posts: 2,923
    ElfsborgAddick said:

    bazjonster said:

    Love it. Only on here could a thread that started as an observation about a train seat double booking degenerate into a peeing contest about the state of the UK privatised rail operators!

    Quality.

    I blame the French!
    Indeed you can.....Connex was French and that is where it all started to go wrong

  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,338
    ElfsborgAddick said:

    bazjonster said:

    Love it. Only on here could a thread that started as an observation about a train seat double booking degenerate into a peeing contest about the state of the UK privatised rail operators!

    Quality.

    I blame the French!
    Most things are their fault and they are easy to hate so a good call.
  • Raith_C_Chattonell
    Raith_C_Chattonell Posts: 5,751
    Plus French trains are said to be quicker than flying.

    Comforting to know that our planes still rule the roost on speed and boast about it too! Check out the claim made on the propeller case of this ‘speed merchant’ that I took to Dublin.
  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,651
    edited August 2017
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  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,651
    Baldybonce said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Baldybonce said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Let's face it the whole rail network is a national embarrassment. Trains full and rarely get above 60 mph.

    Yesterday we were on train between Plymouth and Totnes and a duck was flying parallel to the train and slowly overtook us.

    At least it's cheap and good value for money.

    I'm on a train to Aviemore right now and 3 people have been chucked out of 1st class and there are people standing in the aisles of riff raff class.
    You standing Mick ? ;0)

    there are 3 of us in the toilet.
    Is one of you a lookout?
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,705
    man_at_milletts said:

    Baldybonce said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Baldybonce said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Let's face it the whole rail network is a national embarrassment. Trains full and rarely get above 60 mph.

    Yesterday we were on train between Plymouth and Totnes and a duck was flying parallel to the train and slowly overtook us.

    At least it's cheap and good value for money.

    I'm on a train to Aviemore right now and 3 people have been chucked out of 1st class and there are people standing in the aisles of riff raff class.
    You standing Mick ? ;0)

    there are 3 of us in the toilet.
    Is one of you a lookout?
    Yep.

    and it's absolutely pissing down here.
  • AddickFC81
    AddickFC81 Posts: 4,053
    @RugbyAddick Computer error I guess. Did you complain to the train manager? Then what you should then do is complain to GWR and explain the situation. Hopefully they can compensate you.
  • StigThundercock
    StigThundercock Posts: 3,722
    ElfsborgAddick said:

    clb74 said:

    ElfsborgAddick said:

    Am on the 18.44 from Portsmouth Harbour to Victoria.

    Only 4 bloody carriages so the train is rather crowded. Unfortunately both toilets are out of order and I'm dying for a poo!

    Ffs I'm eating my dinner
    Arrived at Worthing and the train joined up with another four carriages.

    I moved quicker than Usain Bolt into the front four carriages and found a toilet available. There is a God after all!!!!
    I'll warrant you moved quicker than poor knackered old Usain this last weekend, else you'd have soiled yourself.
  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,651
    Baldybonce said:

    man_at_milletts said:

    Baldybonce said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Baldybonce said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Let's face it the whole rail network is a national embarrassment. Trains full and rarely get above 60 mph.

    Yesterday we were on train between Plymouth and Totnes and a duck was flying parallel to the train and slowly overtook us.

    At least it's cheap and good value for money.

    I'm on a train to Aviemore right now and 3 people have been chucked out of 1st class and there are people standing in the aisles of riff raff class.
    You standing Mick ? ;0)

    there are 3 of us in the toilet.
    Is one of you a lookout?
    Yep.

    and it's absolutely pissing down here.
    S'what happens when you go to foreign countries.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,271

    @Airman Brown


    Are you seriously saying that population growth of under 20 per cent is responsible for passenger growth of 100 per cent?

    Nope. Although if rail is a minority player in the market (I think long distance rail accounts for about 20% of such journeys , and it would be good to know how much that has increased), then the arithmetic says that if population growth grows by 10%, rail grows by 20% all other things being equal.

    These are the main possible components of rail growth:

    1. Market growth due to population growth

    2. Market growth due to greater economic activity, both work and leisure

    3. Increased supply of rail (generally, higher frequency, as we haven't built new lines)

    4. Increased share of rail because more people opt for it versus car, bus or air (and then the question is, was it a positive choice)

    We don't learn anything at all from that article about what proportion of the increase in passengers boasted about by the train operators can be attributed to each one of the above. But they can only take credit for (4), and even then only if research proves people positively chose train travel. So their claim is what is "just silly".

    I agree that trains are more frequent now on many routes than 20 years ago. However, what we read from the OP of this thread, is that it does not seem to be any where near enough, and IMO for the reasons I have set out: Lack of political will, including from your lot; with the honourable exception of Andrew Adonis, whom Labour has shunted into a siding in the Lords

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  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,716
    Where's @MrLargo when you need him?
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 8,013
    LenGlover said:

    Where's @MrLargo when you need him?

    Already had my little rant Len, towards the bottom of page three.

    Trying to distance myself from this one. It's stressful enough concerning myself with the travails of Cirque du SouthEastern Trains. If I start worrying about the entire UK rail network I think that would invoke a level of rage that I just couldn't control.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,385
    On my train home from Plymouth, and a major crisis I've run out of wine!
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,836
    killerandflash said:

    On my train home from Plymouth, and a major crisis I've run out of wine!

    Ffs
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,394
    Airman Brown said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Let's face it the whole rail network is a national embarrassment. Trains full and rarely get above 60 mph.

    Yesterday we were on train between Plymouth and Totnes and a duck was flying parallel to the train and slowly overtook us.

    At least it's cheap and good value for money.

    HS1 is excellent. I didn't travel to Plymouth by train as we drove to Exeter on Tuesday and stayed down there, but had numerous good train trips last season - Chesterfield, Fleetwood (Blackpool), Peterborough, Walsall, Rochdale. I think we all tend to base our views on bad experiences and forget they are not the norm.
    Apologist! ;)

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