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  • Arnie recommends 6 hours. So 6 is what I get... Unless I fancy a lay in.
  • Bigmac said:

    Although I've never had a problem sleeping I was diagnosed with Sleep Apnoea earlier this year (very heavy snoring & supposedly stop breathing for up to 30 seconds) - I was also getting up 2-3 times a night to go to the loo although I went back to sleep again straight afterwards. I would also nod off watching tv & occasionally during meetings at work !!

    I was put on a CPAP machine at night, where I breath oxygen via a tube through my nose & unable to breath through my mouth (weird sensation, a bit like drowning but with air not water).

    Ever since then I get a solid 6-7 hours a night. I've not once woken up at night to go to the loo & I don't feel tired during the day at all. Its absolutely magic. The only one downside is that I can't nap during the afternoons & can't have a lie-in - once I'm awake in the morning then that's it. I used to be able to doze on a sat & sun morning but not anymore.

    I'd thoroughly recommend it for anyone who has sleeping problems, snoring or tiredness during the day.

    Couldn't agree more,have been using CPAP machine for the last week and the change in my sleep patterns and lack of snoring is amazing.
    How do you get one of these, what are the conditions you get these? how did you get offered it? i have been to docs a few times in the past and they wouldnt really recommend anything even reluctant to give me sleeping tablets. I also am a heavy snorer (most of the time) :)
    The diagnosis of Sleep Apnoea involves strapping on a box and electrodes that connect to pretty much every part of your body. Then perhaps even a sleep study as an in-patient. If diagnosed then CPAP is one of the standard treatments. Not sure you can get them off the shelf (although you could find one somewhere I'm sure) - but it needs to be diagnosed first.

    Been there, done that and thankfully no Sleep Apnoea was diagnosed. If it goes untreated it can be very serious, sometimes fatal. I've lost a bit of weight and that seems to have stopped my snoring to a great extent but I still have the 3am trip to the toilet! That's age though!
  • A nice bed time joint should do the trick
  • Read your car insurance policy conditions, written in small print.
  • In my opinion, the best thing to do is just accept that you can't sleep well at the moment and it's a bit shitty and inconvenient.

    If you worry too much about it and let it get you down then it will get worse. It's something you can't control, it's not a light switch situation, so don't try and control it.

    Your not alone. Many people have this problem. I've had it and when it's at its peak, it really can feel like a nightmare.

    Having bad sleep won't kill you. You will make up for it when you are normal again and then it's a distant memory.

    I wouldn't rule out the possibility of myself having the problem again in the future although now it's not a problem at all. I now find it hard to stay awake past 10:30pm.

    Your probably going to have a further rough night or 2 as it's still swimming at the front of your mind, but it's ok.
    Don't feel the pressure or take it too seriously.

    I believe there are probably a few previous threads on the subject too.


  • edited September 2017
    Stress related for me. A real bugger and your knackered all the time.
  • bobmunro said:

    Bigmac said:

    Although I've never had a problem sleeping I was diagnosed with Sleep Apnoea earlier this year (very heavy snoring & supposedly stop breathing for up to 30 seconds) - I was also getting up 2-3 times a night to go to the loo although I went back to sleep again straight afterwards. I would also nod off watching tv & occasionally during meetings at work !!

    I was put on a CPAP machine at night, where I breath oxygen via a tube through my nose & unable to breath through my mouth (weird sensation, a bit like drowning but with air not water).

    Ever since then I get a solid 6-7 hours a night. I've not once woken up at night to go to the loo & I don't feel tired during the day at all. Its absolutely magic. The only one downside is that I can't nap during the afternoons & can't have a lie-in - once I'm awake in the morning then that's it. I used to be able to doze on a sat & sun morning but not anymore.

    I'd thoroughly recommend it for anyone who has sleeping problems, snoring or tiredness during the day.

    Couldn't agree more,have been using CPAP machine for the last week and the change in my sleep patterns and lack of snoring is amazing.
    How do you get one of these, what are the conditions you get these? how did you get offered it? i have been to docs a few times in the past and they wouldnt really recommend anything even reluctant to give me sleeping tablets. I also am a heavy snorer (most of the time) :)
    The diagnosis of Sleep Apnoea involves strapping on a box and electrodes that connect to pretty much every part of your body. Then perhaps even a sleep study as an in-patient. If diagnosed then CPAP is one of the standard treatments. Not sure you can get them off the shelf (although you could find one somewhere I'm sure) - but it needs to be diagnosed first.

    Been there, done that and thankfully no Sleep Apnoea was diagnosed. If it goes untreated it can be very serious, sometimes fatal. I've lost a bit of weight and that seems to have stopped my snoring to a great extent but I still have the 3am trip to the toilet! That's age though!
    Sorry, but I didn't go through any of that. After completing a questionnaire by the hospital as part of a pre-admission routine for eye surgery I was diagnosed of probably having Sleep Apnoea. I was then referred to their Sleep Clinic (East Grinstead Hospital but Moorfields have one I believe) and they initially gave me a small monitor & an oximeter (fits on your finger & measures the oxygen levels in your blood) and my sleeping habits were observed remotely over a week. Going back they then tested me as an in-patient for an hour or so & then diagnosed Sleep Apnoea. No wires, no stays overnight anywhere.

    I don't know if you can get a referral via your GP, but if you do snore and your partner thinks you stop breathing whilst you are asleep then i'd say get it checked out.

    The quality of my sleep as improved enormously. Never thought I had a problem but obviously I did. Also, no snoring = happy partner..........and I'm not even married !!
  • I'd dream of 6 hours sleep a night. Unfortunately I'd have to get to sleep in order to have the dream!!!
  • bobmunro said:

    Bigmac said:

    Although I've never had a problem sleeping I was diagnosed with Sleep Apnoea earlier this year (very heavy snoring & supposedly stop breathing for up to 30 seconds) - I was also getting up 2-3 times a night to go to the loo although I went back to sleep again straight afterwards. I would also nod off watching tv & occasionally during meetings at work !!

    I was put on a CPAP machine at night, where I breath oxygen via a tube through my nose & unable to breath through my mouth (weird sensation, a bit like drowning but with air not water).

    Ever since then I get a solid 6-7 hours a night. I've not once woken up at night to go to the loo & I don't feel tired during the day at all. Its absolutely magic. The only one downside is that I can't nap during the afternoons & can't have a lie-in - once I'm awake in the morning then that's it. I used to be able to doze on a sat & sun morning but not anymore.

    I'd thoroughly recommend it for anyone who has sleeping problems, snoring or tiredness during the day.

    Couldn't agree more,have been using CPAP machine for the last week and the change in my sleep patterns and lack of snoring is amazing.
    How do you get one of these, what are the conditions you get these? how did you get offered it? i have been to docs a few times in the past and they wouldnt really recommend anything even reluctant to give me sleeping tablets. I also am a heavy snorer (most of the time) :)
    The diagnosis of Sleep Apnoea involves strapping on a box and electrodes that connect to pretty much every part of your body. Then perhaps even a sleep study as an in-patient. If diagnosed then CPAP is one of the standard treatments. Not sure you can get them off the shelf (although you could find one somewhere I'm sure) - but it needs to be diagnosed first.

    Been there, done that and thankfully no Sleep Apnoea was diagnosed. If it goes untreated it can be very serious, sometimes fatal. I've lost a bit of weight and that seems to have stopped my snoring to a great extent but I still have the 3am trip to the toilet! That's age though!
    Sorry, but I didn't go through any of that. After completing a questionnaire by the hospital as part of a pre-admission routine for eye surgery I was diagnosed of probably having Sleep Apnoea. I was then referred to their Sleep Clinic (East Grinstead Hospital but Moorfields have one I believe) and they initially gave me a small monitor & an oximeter (fits on your finger & measures the oxygen levels in your blood) and my sleeping habits were observed remotely over a week. Going back they then tested me as an in-patient for an hour or so & then diagnosed Sleep Apnoea. No wires, no stays overnight anywhere.

    I don't know if you can get a referral via your GP, but if you do snore and your partner thinks you stop breathing whilst you are asleep then i'd say get it checked out.

    The quality of my sleep as improved enormously. Never thought I had a problem but obviously I did. Also, no snoring = happy partner..........and I'm not even married !!
    Jonny bev,this is the same route I took,you can buy CPAP machines on line but to get one that auto senses ie customise to your particular lung capacity etc your looking at around £1200!Best bet go back to your doctor and ask for a referral as self diagnosis can be tricky and a waste of money.
  • Try to learn some self hypnosis / relaxation techniques. Not an overnight cure (see what I did there) but over a period will have a positive impact. You can find out these techniques online or through a reputable clinical hypnotist. It's quite simple and only demands a few minutes of your time each day.

    I don't find the relaxation techniques particularly help me to sleep, they jost stop me getting so wound up about the fact that I can't.
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  • Cafc95 said:

    Struggled with this all throughout University. Was stress anxiety based for me though my lifestyle probably didn't help. Can't stress (get it) enough how much meditation and yoga helped me. Especially the meditation. Was reluctant at first but my best advice would be keep forcing yourself to do it until it becomes natural. Crazy how different breathing techniques etc can have such a calming relaxing effect on the mind.

    Meditation has become part of daily routine now and sleep 10 times better than i used to.

    This gets the nod for me too. I still struggle with anxiety before I nod off, mainly my mind starts racing, making up scenarios, picking apart all bits of my life etc.

    I tried headspace and it was very good, but you have to pay for it. Here's a free one

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  • Dave2l said:

    In my opinion, the best thing to do is just accept that you can't sleep well at the moment and it's a bit shitty and inconvenient.

    If you worry too much about it and let it get you down then it will get worse. It's something you can't control, it's not a light switch situation, so don't try and control it.

    Your not alone. Many people have this problem. I've had it and when it's at its peak, it really can feel like a nightmare.

    Having bad sleep won't kill you. You will make up for it when you are normal again and then it's a distant memory.

    I wouldn't rule out the possibility of myself having the problem again in the future although now it's not a problem at all. I now find it hard to stay awake past 10:30pm.

    Your probably going to have a further rough night or 2 as it's still swimming at the front of your mind, but it's ok.
    Don't feel the pressure or take it too seriously.

    I believe there are probably a few previous threads on the subject too.


    Best advice.
    I was told told by my doctor that not going to sleep is not half as bad as worrying about it...
  • Get a bit more exercise and fresh air during the day. Get up and start the day early. Be tired when you go to bed.Take a look at your diet and see if it's got an imbalance in it that needs correcting.
  • edited September 2017
    I very rarely sleep for much more than five hours. Every couple of weeks I'll have a catch-up and sleep for nearly eight hours, but I guess we all need different levels of sleep. If I get less than four hours I tend to feel a little sleepy first thing, but by mid-morning I feel fine.

    If you don't feel unwell then I guess you just enjoy having more hours awake than those sleep monsters that need eight hours every night.
  • In bed at 11 last night, leg over with the Mrs, meditation music on. Still wide awake at 1 am. Up at 6:30. Joy! haha

    Having read everything on here, I think it must be sleep anxiety that is leading to this. Will try the exercise and getting up earlier. As I said I find it impossible to switch off and relax, I fall asleep in front of the TV but as soon as I go to bed i'm wide awake.

    I find it easier to sleep on a weekend when I dont have work the next day, that may be down to the beer though!

    Thanks again for all of the tips
  • The band Faithless had Insomnia.
  • good film too. love the bit where Al Pacino asks the time & the local cops tell him its 3.30 & so he says lets go speak to the murderd girls b'friend - only to be told its 3.30 am.
  • robroy said:

    In bed at 11 last night, leg over with the Mrs, meditation music on. Still wide awake at 1 am. Up at 6:30. Joy! haha

    Having read everything on here, I think it must be sleep anxiety that is leading to this. Will try the exercise and getting up earlier. As I said I find it impossible to switch off and relax, I fall asleep in front of the TV but as soon as I go to bed i'm wide awake.

    I find it easier to sleep on a weekend when I dont have work the next day, that may be down to the beer though!

    Thanks again for all of the tips

    Change your job ?
  • In the i newspaper yesterday was an article on Nick Littlehales ???
    The ex Slumberland Marketing Director is now a sleep consultant.

    His number one client is Cristiano Ronaldo.

    His advice to Ronaldo was turn off all screens on phones, TV's, 90 minutes before bed and in Ronaldo case, stop staring in the mirror. Sleep in the foetal position in fresh laundry, and sleep on only ten centimetres of Foam. His advise on sex for athletes is ZZZZZZZzzzzzzz
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