The influence of the EU on Britain.
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I don't think most people would say they are from Europe immediately - but that doesn't mean they don't consider themselves European. Bringing sport into it - I suppose the Ryder cup illustrates how we can feel European.0
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Eurovision Song Contest?MuttleyCAFC said:I don't think most people would say they are from Europe immediately - but that doesn't mean they don't consider themselves European. Bringing sport into it - I suppose the Ryder cup illustrates how we can feel European.
I'll get me coat.1 -
Well, it is bearable if you put a bet on it.0
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It's probably worth explaining what you mean by "fake" and "real" @CallumcafcCallumcafc said:Guess which are real and which are fake...
EC regulations to ban playgrounds – Daily Express
Rolling acres outlawed by Brussels – The Telegraph
EU to scrap British exams – Sunday Express
Obscure EU law halting the sale of English oak seeds – Mail on Sunday
EU may try to ban sweet and toy ads – The Times
EU to tell British farmers what they can grow – Daily Mail
EU ‘Bans Boozing’ – Daily Star
Light ale to be forced to change its name by Eurocrats – Daily Mail
EU fanatics to be forced to sing dire anthem about EU ‘Motherland’ – The Sun
British apple trees facing chop by EU – The Times
EC plan to ban noisy toys – Sunday People
EU to ban bagpipes and trapeze artists – The Sun
Children to be banned from blowing up balloons, under EU safety rules – Daily Telegraph
Straight cucumbers – The Sun
Curved bananas banned by Brussels bureaucrats – The Sun, Daily Mail, Daily Express
Brussels bans barmaids from showing cleavage – The Sun, Daily Telegraph
Rumpole’s wig to scrapped by EU – Mail on Sunday
Church bells silenced by fear of EU law – Daily Telegraph
Motorists to be charged to drive in city centres under EU plans – Daily Telegraph
EU to stop binge drinking by slapping extra tax on our booze – The Sun
Brandy butter to be renamed ‘brandy spreadable fat’ – The European
British loaf of bread under threat from EU – Daily Mail
Truckers face EU ban on fry-ups – The Sun
EU to ban Union Flag from British meat packs – Daily Express
EU seeks to outlaw 60 dog breeds – Europa News Agency
Double-decker buses to be banned – Daily Telegraph
EU bans eating competition cakes – Timesonline
Now EU officials want control of your CANDLES – Daily Express
21-gun salutes are just too loud, Brussels tells the Royal Artillery – Mail on Sunday
Brussels threatens charity shops and car boot sales – Daily Mail
Plot to axe British number plates for standardised EU design – Daily Express
Women to be asked intimate details about sex lives in planned EU census – Daily Express
British cheese faces extinction under EU rules – PA News
EU meddlers ban kids on milk rounds – The Sun, The Telegraph
British chocolate to be renamed ‘vegelate’ under EU rules – Daily Mail
EU to ban church bells – Daily Telegraph
British film producers warn of new EU threat to industry – The Independent
Kilts to be branded womenswear by EU – Daily Record EU to ban double decker buses – Daily Mail
Cod to be renamed ‘Gadus’ thanks to EU – Daily Mail
Brussels to restrict drinking habits of Britain’s coffee lovers – Daily Express
EU responsible for your hay fever – Daily Mail, The Times
Condom dimensions to be harmonised – Independent on Sunday
EU wants to BAN your photos of the London Eye – Daily Express
Corgis to be banned by EU – Daily Mail
EU forcing cows to wear nappies – Daily Mail
Eurocrats to ban crayons and colouring pencils – The Sun
Smoky bacon crisps face EU ban – Sunday Times
EU outlaws teeth whitening products – Daily Mail
Domain names – ‘.uk’ to be replaced by ‘.eu’ – Daily Mail
Brussels to ban HGV drivers from wearing glasses – The Times
New eggs cannot be called eggs – Daily Mail
EU to ban selling eggs by the dozen – Daily Mail UK to be forced to adopt continental two pin plug – Daily Star, Daily Mail
EU targets traditional Sunday roast – Sun on Sunday
English Channel to be re-named ‘Anglo-French Pond’ – Daily Mail
Brussels to force EU flag on England shirts – Daily Mail
EU orders farmers to give toys to pigs – The Times
Firemen’s poles outlawed by EU – Daily Mail
Euro ban on food waste means swans cannot be fed – The Observer
Noise regulations to force football goers to wear earplugs – The Sun
Traditional Irish funeral under threat from EU – Daily Telegraph, The Times
EU to ban high-heel shoes for hairdressers – Daily Express
Commission to force fishermen to wear hairnets – Daily Telegraph
Brussels to ban herbal cures – Daily Express
Bureaucrats declare Britain is “not an island”– the Guardian
EU bid to ban life sentences for murderers – Daily Express
New EU map makes Kent part of France – Sunday Telegraph
EU tells Welsh how to grow their leeks – The Times
EU to ban lollipop ladies’ sticks – News of the World
EU plot to rename Trafalgar Square & Waterloo station – Daily Express
UK milk ‘pinta’ threatened by Brussels – The Sun
EU bans ‘mince’ pies – Daily Mail
Eurocrats say Santa must be a woman – The Sun
Now EU crackpots demand gypsy MPs – Daily Express
Brussels to outlaw mushy peas – The Sun, Daily Mail, Telegraph, Times
Brussels says shellfish must be given rest breaks on journeys – The Times
Pets must be pressure cooked after death – Sunday Telegraph
EU puts speed limit on children’s roundabouts – Daily Express
2-for-1 bargains to be scrapped by EU – Daily Mirror
EU madness: chat up bar girl and pub will be fined – Daily Star
Queen to be forced to get her own tea by EU – The Sun
EU tells women to hand in worn-out sex toys – The Sun
British rhubarb to be straight – The Sun
EU to ban rocking horses – The Sun
Scotch whisky rebranded a dangerous chemical by EU – Daily Telegraph
Brussels ban on pints of shandy – The Times
“High up” signs to be put on mountains – BBC
Euronotes cause impotence – Daily Mail
EU to ban under 16-year-olds from using Facebook – Daily Mail
Strawberries must be oval – The Sun
EU orders swings to be pulled down – Daily Express
Tea bags banned from being recycled – BBC
British lav to be replaced with Euro-loo – The Sun
Unwanted Valentine’s cards to be defined as sexual harrasment – Daily Telegraph
Bosses to be told what colour carpets to buy by EU – Daily Star
EU says British yoghurt to be renamed ‘Fermented Milk Pudding’ – Sunday Mirror
EU to ban zipper trousers – The Sun
EU loophole could see 77 MILLION Turks head to Britain, warn Farage and Johnson
They’re all real.
I'm sure many of those stories ran; I doubt that most of them are truthful.1 -
They all genuinely appeared in the UK press. All of them are lies.Chizz said:
It's probably worth explaining what you mean by "fake" and "real" @CallumcafcCallumcafc said:Guess which are real and which are fake...
EC regulations to ban playgrounds – Daily Express
Rolling acres outlawed by Brussels – The Telegraph
EU to scrap British exams – Sunday Express
Obscure EU law halting the sale of English oak seeds – Mail on Sunday
EU may try to ban sweet and toy ads – The Times
EU to tell British farmers what they can grow – Daily Mail
EU ‘Bans Boozing’ – Daily Star
Light ale to be forced to change its name by Eurocrats – Daily Mail
EU fanatics to be forced to sing dire anthem about EU ‘Motherland’ – The Sun
British apple trees facing chop by EU – The Times
EC plan to ban noisy toys – Sunday People
EU to ban bagpipes and trapeze artists – The Sun
Children to be banned from blowing up balloons, under EU safety rules – Daily Telegraph
Straight cucumbers – The Sun
Curved bananas banned by Brussels bureaucrats – The Sun, Daily Mail, Daily Express
Brussels bans barmaids from showing cleavage – The Sun, Daily Telegraph
Rumpole’s wig to scrapped by EU – Mail on Sunday
Church bells silenced by fear of EU law – Daily Telegraph
Motorists to be charged to drive in city centres under EU plans – Daily Telegraph
EU to stop binge drinking by slapping extra tax on our booze – The Sun
Brandy butter to be renamed ‘brandy spreadable fat’ – The European
British loaf of bread under threat from EU – Daily Mail
Truckers face EU ban on fry-ups – The Sun
EU to ban Union Flag from British meat packs – Daily Express
EU seeks to outlaw 60 dog breeds – Europa News Agency
Double-decker buses to be banned – Daily Telegraph
EU bans eating competition cakes – Timesonline
Now EU officials want control of your CANDLES – Daily Express
21-gun salutes are just too loud, Brussels tells the Royal Artillery – Mail on Sunday
Brussels threatens charity shops and car boot sales – Daily Mail
Plot to axe British number plates for standardised EU design – Daily Express
Women to be asked intimate details about sex lives in planned EU census – Daily Express
British cheese faces extinction under EU rules – PA News
EU meddlers ban kids on milk rounds – The Sun, The Telegraph
British chocolate to be renamed ‘vegelate’ under EU rules – Daily Mail
EU to ban church bells – Daily Telegraph
British film producers warn of new EU threat to industry – The Independent
Kilts to be branded womenswear by EU – Daily Record EU to ban double decker buses – Daily Mail
Cod to be renamed ‘Gadus’ thanks to EU – Daily Mail
Brussels to restrict drinking habits of Britain’s coffee lovers – Daily Express
EU responsible for your hay fever – Daily Mail, The Times
Condom dimensions to be harmonised – Independent on Sunday
EU wants to BAN your photos of the London Eye – Daily Express
Corgis to be banned by EU – Daily Mail
EU forcing cows to wear nappies – Daily Mail
Eurocrats to ban crayons and colouring pencils – The Sun
Smoky bacon crisps face EU ban – Sunday Times
EU outlaws teeth whitening products – Daily Mail
Domain names – ‘.uk’ to be replaced by ‘.eu’ – Daily Mail
Brussels to ban HGV drivers from wearing glasses – The Times
New eggs cannot be called eggs – Daily Mail
EU to ban selling eggs by the dozen – Daily Mail UK to be forced to adopt continental two pin plug – Daily Star, Daily Mail
EU targets traditional Sunday roast – Sun on Sunday
English Channel to be re-named ‘Anglo-French Pond’ – Daily Mail
Brussels to force EU flag on England shirts – Daily Mail
EU orders farmers to give toys to pigs – The Times
Firemen’s poles outlawed by EU – Daily Mail
Euro ban on food waste means swans cannot be fed – The Observer
Noise regulations to force football goers to wear earplugs – The Sun
Traditional Irish funeral under threat from EU – Daily Telegraph, The Times
EU to ban high-heel shoes for hairdressers – Daily Express
Commission to force fishermen to wear hairnets – Daily Telegraph
Brussels to ban herbal cures – Daily Express
Bureaucrats declare Britain is “not an island”– the Guardian
EU bid to ban life sentences for murderers – Daily Express
New EU map makes Kent part of France – Sunday Telegraph
EU tells Welsh how to grow their leeks – The Times
EU to ban lollipop ladies’ sticks – News of the World
EU plot to rename Trafalgar Square & Waterloo station – Daily Express
UK milk ‘pinta’ threatened by Brussels – The Sun
EU bans ‘mince’ pies – Daily Mail
Eurocrats say Santa must be a woman – The Sun
Now EU crackpots demand gypsy MPs – Daily Express
Brussels to outlaw mushy peas – The Sun, Daily Mail, Telegraph, Times
Brussels says shellfish must be given rest breaks on journeys – The Times
Pets must be pressure cooked after death – Sunday Telegraph
EU puts speed limit on children’s roundabouts – Daily Express
2-for-1 bargains to be scrapped by EU – Daily Mirror
EU madness: chat up bar girl and pub will be fined – Daily Star
Queen to be forced to get her own tea by EU – The Sun
EU tells women to hand in worn-out sex toys – The Sun
British rhubarb to be straight – The Sun
EU to ban rocking horses – The Sun
Scotch whisky rebranded a dangerous chemical by EU – Daily Telegraph
Brussels ban on pints of shandy – The Times
“High up” signs to be put on mountains – BBC
Euronotes cause impotence – Daily Mail
EU to ban under 16-year-olds from using Facebook – Daily Mail
Strawberries must be oval – The Sun
EU orders swings to be pulled down – Daily Express
Tea bags banned from being recycled – BBC
British lav to be replaced with Euro-loo – The Sun
Unwanted Valentine’s cards to be defined as sexual harrasment – Daily Telegraph
Bosses to be told what colour carpets to buy by EU – Daily Star
EU says British yoghurt to be renamed ‘Fermented Milk Pudding’ – Sunday Mirror
EU to ban zipper trousers – The Sun
EU loophole could see 77 MILLION Turks head to Britain, warn Farage and Johnson
They’re all real.
I'm sure many of those stories ran; I doubt that most of them are truthful.4 -
I see Amber Rudd is saying a second referendum is plausible, changing her tune, if Parliament fails to reach a consensus. So how likely is Parliament failing to reach a consensus? The problem is, nobody wants to be the ones calling for it. But if you only have one plug hole in the bath, that is where the water is going to run out of.0
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Yes we see brexit differently.golfaddick said:
That's funny, because mine is very similar (born in Bexley, lived & worked in London & s/e all my life) and see myself as 100% English.....not even British (give the jocks independence I say)seth plum said:
Or the new thing about self identification.NornIrishAddick said:
There is some debate over the use the term "British Isles", and quite a few people from Ireland (at least in the North Eastern corner of the island are routinely described as British).smudge7946 said:
Ireland is part of the British Isles. I double dare you to start refering to people from Ireland as British.se9addick said:
The other irony was standing in front of the City of London boundry marker to make his little speech, that’s a part of the country that massively benefits from the freedom of movement of services (and people) that the EU brings and now powers the nations economy.MuttleyCAFC said:
Sadly, the irony will always be lost on these thickos!se9addick said:
It was more the irony of him using a European protest symbol to protest that he isn’t European that I thought was delicious.Scoham said:
Reading the responses to the video a lot of people don’t seem to understand what a continent is.
It's ll a question of perspective.
I was born in Erith, lived, studied and worked (and paid taxes and voted) in London all my life, but I am 100% not English, I certainly would not admit to being British either.
In terms of self identification I am glad to think of myself as European or an internationalist even. I feel a great sense of shame and embarrassment to be thought of as British with the associations made in this day and age.
No wonder why we see Brexit so very differently.
However I am a remainer who is obliged to accept the referendum result and focus now on the practicalities.
The problem is that leavers who got their result can't handle the practicalities they have ushered in, like the land border in Ireland.1 -
I am always interested as to where parochialism ends for people. You start as a citizen of the universe, and end up as the top bunk of the bedroom at the back on the left, 27 Acacia Gardens, Wimbledon.Rob7Lee said:
Interesting how we all see things like this differently,golfaddick said:
That's funny, because mine is very similar (born in Bexley, lived & worked in London & s/e all my life) and see myself as 100% English.....not even British (give the jocks independence I say)seth plum said:
Or the new thing about self identification.NornIrishAddick said:
There is some debate over the use the term "British Isles", and quite a few people from Ireland (at least in the North Eastern corner of the island are routinely described as British).smudge7946 said:
Ireland is part of the British Isles. I double dare you to start refering to people from Ireland as British.se9addick said:
The other irony was standing in front of the City of London boundry marker to make his little speech, that’s a part of the country that massively benefits from the freedom of movement of services (and people) that the EU brings and now powers the nations economy.MuttleyCAFC said:
Sadly, the irony will always be lost on these thickos!se9addick said:
It was more the irony of him using a European protest symbol to protest that he isn’t European that I thought was delicious.Scoham said:
Reading the responses to the video a lot of people don’t seem to understand what a continent is.
It's ll a question of perspective.
I was born in Erith, lived, studied and worked (and paid taxes and voted) in London all my life, but I am 100% not English, I certainly would not admit to being British either.
In terms of self identification I am glad to think of myself as European or an internationalist even. I feel a great sense of shame and embarrassment to be thought of as British with the associations made in this day and age.
No wonder why we see Brexit so very differently.
I see myself as a Londoner
Then an Englishman
Then a Brit/UK
If someone asked me where I was from I don’t think I’d ever say Europe, depending who was asking it’d be either London or England or maybe Britain.
None of it matters of course, you still get told what to do by a bloke in a suit with his own interests at heart.
But which bloke seems to matter so tremendously to some people - village councillor? District councillor? County councillor? MP? Government minister? MEP? President of the European commission? Where do you draw the line?4 -
I always say London.Rob7Lee said:
Interesting how we all see things like this differently,golfaddick said:
That's funny, because mine is very similar (born in Bexley, lived & worked in London & s/e all my life) and see myself as 100% English.....not even British (give the jocks independence I say)seth plum said:
Or the new thing about self identification.NornIrishAddick said:
There is some debate over the use the term "British Isles", and quite a few people from Ireland (at least in the North Eastern corner of the island are routinely described as British).smudge7946 said:
Ireland is part of the British Isles. I double dare you to start refering to people from Ireland as British.se9addick said:
The other irony was standing in front of the City of London boundry marker to make his little speech, that’s a part of the country that massively benefits from the freedom of movement of services (and people) that the EU brings and now powers the nations economy.MuttleyCAFC said:
Sadly, the irony will always be lost on these thickos!se9addick said:
It was more the irony of him using a European protest symbol to protest that he isn’t European that I thought was delicious.Scoham said:
Reading the responses to the video a lot of people don’t seem to understand what a continent is.
It's ll a question of perspective.
I was born in Erith, lived, studied and worked (and paid taxes and voted) in London all my life, but I am 100% not English, I certainly would not admit to being British either.
In terms of self identification I am glad to think of myself as European or an internationalist even. I feel a great sense of shame and embarrassment to be thought of as British with the associations made in this day and age.
No wonder why we see Brexit so very differently.
I see myself as a Londoner
Then an Englishman
Then a Brit/UK
If someone asked me where I was from I don’t think I’d ever say Europe, depending who was asking it’d be either London or England or maybe Britain.2 -
When I have to fill in a form, say on a plane, I think English first but then write British as I think that is clearest. It probably isn't any clearer but just feels that way! Having said that, we can hate people who live the same side of the river as us, we can hate people who are part of the United Kingdom - then we have an Olympics and we are cheering the same people on! If we are playing against Scotland, we feel English, if Andy Murray is representing us, we become British. When the Ryder cup is on, we are Europeans.
We are never Americans though, or Chinese, or Russians!1 - Sponsored links:
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Pretty much the same order for me.Rob7Lee said:
Interesting how we all see things like this differently,golfaddick said:
That's funny, because mine is very similar (born in Bexley, lived & worked in London & s/e all my life) and see myself as 100% English.....not even British (give the jocks independence I say)seth plum said:
Or the new thing about self identification.NornIrishAddick said:
There is some debate over the use the term "British Isles", and quite a few people from Ireland (at least in the North Eastern corner of the island are routinely described as British).smudge7946 said:
Ireland is part of the British Isles. I double dare you to start refering to people from Ireland as British.se9addick said:
The other irony was standing in front of the City of London boundry marker to make his little speech, that’s a part of the country that massively benefits from the freedom of movement of services (and people) that the EU brings and now powers the nations economy.MuttleyCAFC said:
Sadly, the irony will always be lost on these thickos!se9addick said:
It was more the irony of him using a European protest symbol to protest that he isn’t European that I thought was delicious.Scoham said:
Reading the responses to the video a lot of people don’t seem to understand what a continent is.
It's ll a question of perspective.
I was born in Erith, lived, studied and worked (and paid taxes and voted) in London all my life, but I am 100% not English, I certainly would not admit to being British either.
In terms of self identification I am glad to think of myself as European or an internationalist even. I feel a great sense of shame and embarrassment to be thought of as British with the associations made in this day and age.
No wonder why we see Brexit so very differently.
I see myself as a Londoner
Then an Englishman
Then a Brit/UK
If someone asked me where I was from I don’t think I’d ever say Europe, depending who was asking it’d be either London or England or maybe Britain.
However I also doubt that if you asked a German where they were from they would say Europe either. Likely answer would be either [city name] or Germany.
If the question was asked of a Brit, German, French etc... individual "which continent are you from?" then most if not all people (at least those that understand the concept of continents!) would answer 'Europe'.1 -
I feel very similar. I'm a Corkman first and then Irish. I don't consider myself European, though I definitely am by definition. However while not identifying as European I still see the value in the EU and would never consider leaving it.Rob7Lee said:
Interesting how we all see things like this differently,golfaddick said:
That's funny, because mine is very similar (born in Bexley, lived & worked in London & s/e all my life) and see myself as 100% English.....not even British (give the jocks independence I say)seth plum said:
Or the new thing about self identification.NornIrishAddick said:
There is some debate over the use the term "British Isles", and quite a few people from Ireland (at least in the North Eastern corner of the island are routinely described as British).smudge7946 said:
Ireland is part of the British Isles. I double dare you to start refering to people from Ireland as British.se9addick said:
The other irony was standing in front of the City of London boundry marker to make his little speech, that’s a part of the country that massively benefits from the freedom of movement of services (and people) that the EU brings and now powers the nations economy.MuttleyCAFC said:
Sadly, the irony will always be lost on these thickos!se9addick said:
It was more the irony of him using a European protest symbol to protest that he isn’t European that I thought was delicious.Scoham said:
Reading the responses to the video a lot of people don’t seem to understand what a continent is.
It's ll a question of perspective.
I was born in Erith, lived, studied and worked (and paid taxes and voted) in London all my life, but I am 100% not English, I certainly would not admit to being British either.
In terms of self identification I am glad to think of myself as European or an internationalist even. I feel a great sense of shame and embarrassment to be thought of as British with the associations made in this day and age.
No wonder why we see Brexit so very differently.
I see myself as a Londoner
Then an Englishman
Then a Brit/UK
If someone asked me where I was from I don’t think I’d ever say Europe, depending who was asking it’d be either London or England or maybe Britain.
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Caught a bit of Peston y’day. Greening was talking about how parliament is gridlocked because you’re never gonna get enough of them to pass May’s deal, no deal, or cancelling the whole thing and staying. Practically speaking, if Parliament is to have the final say and is gridlocked, then a way out could be a people’s vote on those three issues.MuttleyCAFC said:I see Amber Rudd is saying a second referendum is plausible, changing her tune, if Parliament fails to reach a consensus. So how likely is Parliament failing to reach a consensus? The problem is, nobody wants to be the ones calling for it. But if you only have one plug hole in the bath, that is where the water is going to run out of.
I get the argument that we’ve had a vote and the will of the people etc etc, but if it’s such a mess and Parliament aren’t able to break that gridlock, then a practical and I would say democratic way to potentially solve it is giving it back and this time the result being binding.
It’s not ideal because the majority voted out the first time and they will want to see their wishes carried through, but this is a mess. If the will of the people is to genuinely leave with no deal, then this will see throug in the vote. I’m of the opinion that a lot has been discovered over the last 2 years that now need to be factored in to how we proceed, and Parliament can’t get the consensus needed to legally get us through the next stage, is that bad that everyone gets another chance to vote on this given where we are in Dec 2018 as opposed to June 2016 ?1 -
The Telegraph has been at the heart of this ‘shit spreading’ for decades. The papers Brussels correspondent (name of Boris Johnson or something like that) pretty much kicked it off in the 80’s.Stu_of_Kunming said:The really worrying thing is you expect that bollocks from shitemags like The Sun/Mail/Daily Star, but The Telegraph and Times are supposed to be 'real' papers.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2016/06/20/boris-johnson-started-eu-bashing-before-it-was-cool/
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Agree with this - It isn't ideal but as it is our only option, we will have to do it reluctantly! I blame the ERG and the DUP.cabbles said:
Caught a bit of Peston y’day. Greening was talking about how parliament is gridlocked because you’re never gonna get enough of them to pass May’s deal, no deal, or cancelling the whole thing and staying. Practically speaking, if Parliament is to have the final say and is gridlocked, then a way out could be a people’s vote on those three issues.MuttleyCAFC said:I see Amber Rudd is saying a second referendum is plausible, changing her tune, if Parliament fails to reach a consensus. So how likely is Parliament failing to reach a consensus? The problem is, nobody wants to be the ones calling for it. But if you only have one plug hole in the bath, that is where the water is going to run out of.
I get the argument that we’ve had a vote and the will of the people etc etc, but if it’s such a mess and Parliament aren’t able to break that gridlock, then a practical and I would say democratic way to potentially solve it is giving it back and this time the result being binding.
It’s not ideal because the majority voted out the first time and they will want to see their wishes carried through, but this is a mess. If the will of the people is to genuinely leave with no deal, then this will see throug in the vote. I’m of the opinion that a lot has been discovered over the last 2 years that now need to be factored in to how we proceed, and Parliament can’t get the consensus needed to legally get us through the next stage, is that bad that everyone gets another chance to vote on this given where we are in Dec 2018 as opposed to June 2016 ?0 -
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That's the point.Alwaysneil said:they have appeared as real headlines but how many are fake news?
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I've nearly finished reading the new book by Alan Rusbridger, who stood down as Guardian editor after 25 momentous years. The book tracks the changes in the media/news landscape over that time, and before, and I really recommend it, even for those who find the Guardian not quite their cuppa.Stu_of_Kunming said:The really worrying thing is you expect that bollocks from shitemags like The Sun/Mail/Daily Star, but The Telegraph and Times are supposed to be 'real' papers.
He particularly agrees with you re the Telegraph, he's got a whole chapter on it. It includes the spectacular resignation from the Telegraph of Peter Oborne - he didn't exactly go quietly. At the bottom of the change at the Telegraph is the fact that under the Barclay brothers the Telegraph has been extremely, uniquely profitable. The Barclays' chosen route to profitability has involved destroying everything it stood for.
There is loads of other good stuff in there; even I as a Guardianista had no idea of the extent of its success in terms of world readership, or how it has become a 24/7 operation by handing the editing processes across each day from London to NY and then to LA, and back. Despite being the most read global digital media outlet (!) he is still coy about declaring profitability, but they have clearly reached a scale where it is within its grasp, and he argues that they have done this without compromising on its traditional values, unlike the Telegraph.
There was a section I read last night about how the newspapers rose to the referendum challenge, or not, and I will copy it out verbatim, it speaks for itself.
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Callumcafc said:
Guess which are real and which are fake...
EC regulations to ban playgrounds – Daily Express
Rolling acres outlawed by Brussels – The Telegraph
EU to scrap British exams – Sunday Express
Obscure EU law halting the sale of English oak seeds – Mail on Sunday
EU may try to ban sweet and toy ads – The Times
EU to tell British farmers what they can grow – Daily Mail
EU ‘Bans Boozing’ – Daily Star
Light ale to be forced to change its name by Eurocrats – Daily Mail
EU fanatics to be forced to sing dire anthem about EU ‘Motherland’ – The Sun
British apple trees facing chop by EU – The Times
EC plan to ban noisy toys – Sunday People
EU to ban bagpipes and trapeze artists – The Sun
Children to be banned from blowing up balloons, under EU safety rules – Daily Telegraph
Straight cucumbers – The Sun
Curved bananas banned by Brussels bureaucrats – The Sun, Daily Mail, Daily Express
Brussels bans barmaids from showing cleavage – The Sun, Daily Telegraph
Rumpole’s wig to scrapped by EU – Mail on Sunday
Church bells silenced by fear of EU law – Daily Telegraph
Motorists to be charged to drive in city centres under EU plans – Daily Telegraph
EU to stop binge drinking by slapping extra tax on our booze – The Sun
Brandy butter to be renamed ‘brandy spreadable fat’ – The European
British loaf of bread under threat from EU – Daily Mail
Truckers face EU ban on fry-ups – The Sun
EU to ban Union Flag from British meat packs – Daily Express
EU seeks to outlaw 60 dog breeds – Europa News Agency
Double-decker buses to be banned – Daily Telegraph
EU bans eating competition cakes – Timesonline
Now EU officials want control of your CANDLES – Daily Express
21-gun salutes are just too loud, Brussels tells the Royal Artillery – Mail on Sunday
Brussels threatens charity shops and car boot sales – Daily Mail
Plot to axe British number plates for standardised EU design – Daily Express
Women to be asked intimate details about sex lives in planned EU census – Daily Express
British cheese faces extinction under EU rules – PA News
EU meddlers ban kids on milk rounds – The Sun, The Telegraph
British chocolate to be renamed ‘vegelate’ under EU rules – Daily Mail
EU to ban church bells – Daily Telegraph
British film producers warn of new EU threat to industry – The Independent
Kilts to be branded womenswear by EU – Daily Record EU to ban double decker buses – Daily Mail
Cod to be renamed ‘Gadus’ thanks to EU – Daily Mail
Brussels to restrict drinking habits of Britain’s coffee lovers – Daily Express
EU responsible for your hay fever – Daily Mail, The Times
Condom dimensions to be harmonised – Independent on Sunday
EU wants to BAN your photos of the London Eye – Daily Express
Corgis to be banned by EU – Daily Mail
EU forcing cows to wear nappies – Daily Mail
Eurocrats to ban crayons and colouring pencils – The Sun
Smoky bacon crisps face EU ban – Sunday Times
EU outlaws teeth whitening products – Daily Mail
Domain names – ‘.uk’ to be replaced by ‘.eu’ – Daily Mail
Brussels to ban HGV drivers from wearing glasses – The Times
New eggs cannot be called eggs – Daily Mail
EU to ban selling eggs by the dozen – Daily Mail UK to be forced to adopt continental two pin plug – Daily Star, Daily Mail
EU targets traditional Sunday roast – Sun on Sunday
English Channel to be re-named ‘Anglo-French Pond’ – Daily Mail
Brussels to force EU flag on England shirts – Daily Mail
EU orders farmers to give toys to pigs – The Times
Firemen’s poles outlawed by EU – Daily Mail
Euro ban on food waste means swans cannot be fed – The Observer
Noise regulations to force football goers to wear earplugs – The Sun
Traditional Irish funeral under threat from EU – Daily Telegraph, The Times
EU to ban high-heel shoes for hairdressers – Daily Express
Commission to force fishermen to wear hairnets – Daily Telegraph
Brussels to ban herbal cures – Daily Express
Bureaucrats declare Britain is “not an island”– the Guardian
EU bid to ban life sentences for murderers – Daily Express
New EU map makes Kent part of France – Sunday Telegraph
EU tells Welsh how to grow their leeks – The Times
EU to ban lollipop ladies’ sticks – News of the World
EU plot to rename Trafalgar Square & Waterloo station – Daily Express
UK milk ‘pinta’ threatened by Brussels – The Sun
EU bans ‘mince’ pies – Daily Mail
Eurocrats say Santa must be a woman – The Sun
Now EU crackpots demand gypsy MPs – Daily Express
Brussels to outlaw mushy peas – The Sun, Daily Mail, Telegraph, Times
Brussels says shellfish must be given rest breaks on journeys – The Times
Pets must be pressure cooked after death – Sunday Telegraph
EU puts speed limit on children’s roundabouts – Daily Express
2-for-1 bargains to be scrapped by EU – Daily Mirror
EU madness: chat up bar girl and pub will be fined – Daily Star
Queen to be forced to get her own tea by EU – The Sun
EU tells women to hand in worn-out sex toys – The Sun
British rhubarb to be straight – The Sun
EU to ban rocking horses – The Sun
Scotch whisky rebranded a dangerous chemical by EU – Daily Telegraph
Brussels ban on pints of shandy – The Times
“High up” signs to be put on mountains – BBC
Euronotes cause impotence – Daily Mail
EU to ban under 16-year-olds from using Facebook – Daily Mail
Strawberries must be oval – The Sun
EU orders swings to be pulled down – Daily Express
Tea bags banned from being recycled – BBC
British lav to be replaced with Euro-loo – The Sun
Unwanted Valentine’s cards to be defined as sexual harrasment – Daily Telegraph
Bosses to be told what colour carpets to buy by EU – Daily Star
EU says British yoghurt to be renamed ‘Fermented Milk Pudding’ – Sunday Mirror
EU to ban zipper trousers – The Sun
EU loophole could see 77 MILLION Turks head to Britain, warn Farage and Johnson
They’re all real.
NO THEY ARE NOT.
These ridiculous lies and scaremongering stories were certainly published in newspapers that quite frankly should be held accountable for helping to convince idiots that the EU would be interested in instructing women into handing in worn out sex toys.
What’s so fucking frightening is that people do believe that they are true and SEVEN likes for the post by members of this board.
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That's SEVEN members who are clearly smarter than you and understood Callum's point. All 7 'likers' are remainers, the post even got a LOL from our resident troll.ShootersHillGuru said:Callumcafc said:Guess which are real and which are fake...
EC regulations to ban playgrounds – Daily Express
Rolling acres outlawed by Brussels – The Telegraph
EU to scrap British exams – Sunday Express
Obscure EU law halting the sale of English oak seeds – Mail on Sunday
EU may try to ban sweet and toy ads – The Times
EU to tell British farmers what they can grow – Daily Mail
EU ‘Bans Boozing’ – Daily Star
Light ale to be forced to change its name by Eurocrats – Daily Mail
EU fanatics to be forced to sing dire anthem about EU ‘Motherland’ – The Sun
British apple trees facing chop by EU – The Times
EC plan to ban noisy toys – Sunday People
EU to ban bagpipes and trapeze artists – The Sun
Children to be banned from blowing up balloons, under EU safety rules – Daily Telegraph
Straight cucumbers – The Sun
Curved bananas banned by Brussels bureaucrats – The Sun, Daily Mail, Daily Express
Brussels bans barmaids from showing cleavage – The Sun, Daily Telegraph
Rumpole’s wig to scrapped by EU – Mail on Sunday
Church bells silenced by fear of EU law – Daily Telegraph
Motorists to be charged to drive in city centres under EU plans – Daily Telegraph
EU to stop binge drinking by slapping extra tax on our booze – The Sun
Brandy butter to be renamed ‘brandy spreadable fat’ – The European
British loaf of bread under threat from EU – Daily Mail
Truckers face EU ban on fry-ups – The Sun
EU to ban Union Flag from British meat packs – Daily Express
EU seeks to outlaw 60 dog breeds – Europa News Agency
Double-decker buses to be banned – Daily Telegraph
EU bans eating competition cakes – Timesonline
Now EU officials want control of your CANDLES – Daily Express
21-gun salutes are just too loud, Brussels tells the Royal Artillery – Mail on Sunday
Brussels threatens charity shops and car boot sales – Daily Mail
Plot to axe British number plates for standardised EU design – Daily Express
Women to be asked intimate details about sex lives in planned EU census – Daily Express
British cheese faces extinction under EU rules – PA News
EU meddlers ban kids on milk rounds – The Sun, The Telegraph
British chocolate to be renamed ‘vegelate’ under EU rules – Daily Mail
EU to ban church bells – Daily Telegraph
British film producers warn of new EU threat to industry – The Independent
Kilts to be branded womenswear by EU – Daily Record EU to ban double decker buses – Daily Mail
Cod to be renamed ‘Gadus’ thanks to EU – Daily Mail
Brussels to restrict drinking habits of Britain’s coffee lovers – Daily Express
EU responsible for your hay fever – Daily Mail, The Times
Condom dimensions to be harmonised – Independent on Sunday
EU wants to BAN your photos of the London Eye – Daily Express
Corgis to be banned by EU – Daily Mail
EU forcing cows to wear nappies – Daily Mail
Eurocrats to ban crayons and colouring pencils – The Sun
Smoky bacon crisps face EU ban – Sunday Times
EU o.
NO THEY ARE NOT.
These ridiculous lies and scaremongering stories were certainly published in newspapers that quite frankly should be held accountable for helping to convince idiots that the EU would be interested in instructing women into handing in worn out sex toys.
What’s so fucking frightening is that people do believe that they are true and SEVEN likes for the post by members of this board.
I'm shocked you linked to Amazon! I'll have a look on pirate bay later, sounds an interesting read.PragueAddick said:
I've nearly finished reading the new book by Alan Rusbridger, who stood down as Guardian editor after 25 momentous years. The book tracks the changes in the media/news landscape over that time, and before, and I really recommend it, even for those who find the Guardian not quite their cuppa.Stu_of_Kunming said:The really worrying thing is you expect that bollocks from shitemags like The Sun/Mail/Daily Star, but The Telegraph and Times are supposed to be 'real' papers.
He particularly agrees with you re the Telegraph, he's got a whole chapter on it. It includes the spectacular resignation from the Telegraph of Peter Oborne - he didn't exactly go quietly. At the bottom of the change at the Telegraph is the fact that under the Barclay brothers the Telegraph has been extremely, uniquely profitable. The Barclays' chosen route to profitability has involved destroying everything it stood for.
There is loads of other good stuff in there; even I as a Guardianista had no idea of the extent of its success in terms of world readership, or how it has become a 24/7 operation by handing the editing processes across each day from London to NY and then to LA, and back. Despite being the most read global digital media outlet (!) he is still coy about declaring profitability, but they have clearly reached a scale where it is within its grasp, and he argues that they have done this without compromising on its traditional values, unlike the Telegraph.
There was a section I read last night about how the newspapers rose to the referendum challenge, or not, and I will copy it out verbatim, it speaks for itself.3 - Sponsored links:
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I think Callum was saying they are all headlines that really appeared in UK newspapers, not that the stories were real (they are all fake news).2
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Surely if the police didn't want to bring it down with bullets, they could have sent a helicopter up there!0
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An extreme solution to Boris' ego.MuttleyCAFC said:Surely if the police didn't want to bring it down with bullets, they could have sent a helicopter up there!
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Yes, I meant to post that on the Drones thread! lol. Could work though!1
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