in our disappointment / criticism of the last few games?
Are there people that simply feel the overriding aspect has been 'bad luck'?
Not a statement, just asking it as a question. Bar the Wigan game, there's a very real argument that on another day and a supportive wind we could have easily have won at Gillingham and Wigan, and at home to Bury.
My personal view is that some of the views are OTT, but are largely borne out of knowledge of how the last few seasons have progressed following encouraging starts, and there is a very real chance that the same might be happening again. On the other hand, I find it hard to disagree with those highlighting the lack of striker options and the rigidness of having to play 451.
thoughts?
(where I mean 'we' I mean the general tone of social media comments)
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Big blow loosing Pearce but chance for Sarr or Konsa to shine.Wigan aside we could quite easily have won all our other games.Marshall and Reeves will add to the many chances already created.Still early days.Keep the Faith.COYR
Said on a different thread after Bury I think that the way this season is going its starting to feel like Peeters first season in charge. Really good first team but squad not big enough.
"We" don't have a collective view.
individuals have views.
Some are very negative, some very positive, most somewhere inbetween.
Most, but not all, people's views change as new evidence ie results and performance present themselves hence fewer posts about how "it's all changed/announce promotion/Roland is great" than there were a few weeks ago and more "everything is shit" posts.
In five games time that will have changed again depending on the new evidence.
Perhaps 10 or 15 games is too little evidence on which to make a definitive decision but that is what people do, including me. Still think this is a top six squad and still think the squad is too thin and the tactics too inflexible.
LLL&BH
The inability to see out a game
The lack of tactical alternatives
Lack of striker options
Which to me mean we're not punching our weight let alone above it but very much below.
The last few years can taint our view, but the three points above to me mean we are unlikely to mount a promotion challenge and even play offs will be tough.
Add to that Konsa is likely to go in January to balance the books and I don't see us spending much then either or strengthing.
Robinson states he has control over who he brings in and out. Fine, then the reason the forward situation is a mess, is down to you sir!
The negativity comes from the feeling that we have seen this all before & we know what's round the corner,injuries,player sales etc.
At the game last night some people were shouting why don't we leave player's up at corner's & attack,attack ,attack.Where in the past we would happily take a point from an away game & move on.
Some people on here are very negative because of the regime & previous recent history,where as other's, including me,
think with a bit of luck & an addition or two in the next window this side should be in the promotion frame.
It's the hope that kill's us.
Have they? Look at our dealing in the transfer market and our squad, what has been different this season?
As soon as a goal goes in all you see is...cnuts...we're sh*t...fckuing cnuts.
We will win some games but we will also lose some games. The ownership has totally missed a trick in not giving the manager a full squad of players to pick from when it's clear to see that we've got some extremely good League 1 players but not enough of a squad to go the full distance.
The coach may be at fault for not insisting on getting the right players in during the window but we just don't know.
For now the coaching staff can only play the players they have and it's clear to see that so many of them need a break. Kashi & Solly should've been rested for the Wigan or Gillingham games. We lost the Wigan game not only because the opposition were better than us but because we lost possession so many times through tired passes, something that we didn't do in previous games.
Like Curbs used to say "don't get too high with the highs or too low with the lows".
next 5 are;
Fleetwood away
Peterborough home
Doncaster home
oxford away
Bradford away
i think 8/9 points out of them is required for playoffs, i think autos are a step too far for this team, pains me to say it but we are simply not good enough in latest showings its just not going to happen, and its sad because a small amount of money could of made all the difference.
The casual attendee would think the players had bags of energy, skill and commitment.
We all know, though, that this is an illusion. In general, the players in these lower leagues are slower, less fit, fatter, older or much younger, have less stamina and, above all, are less skillful.
Apart from the odd upset in cup matches you get to see the difference, nay gulf, in class in such mis-matches. The "romance of the cup" (aka a giant-killing act) is usually caused by the weather, the pitch, the crappy changing rooms, over-optimistic, complacent players, the resting of mainstream players or a combination of all of these. The reality is that a result other than a total hammering for the little guy is as rare as hens' teeth.
So back to the topic, our problem is that we have a stadium that would fit in very well in the Championship and is just about okay for the Premier League. We also have a quite large fan-base. And, as soon as Roland finishes Phase 28 of the training grounds project we will have the supporting infrastructure too. (Yeah, right.)
We have this disconnect. Everything about the club screams we should be playing and competing in a higher league. The only thing stopping that has been a combination of poor management (both on and off the pitch), a vast coming and going of mediocre players and the sale of our major playing assets.
So, failing to roll over the likes of Walsall, Bury, Gillingham, Plymouth, and who knows what other teams still to come is entirely below expectations and an affront to the club's supporters who have been badly let down.
In short, we are NOT being too harsh. The day-in, day-out kicking in the teeth you get as a Charlton fan means we feel we are fully entitled to kick back. We are a big fish in a small pond and deserve to have someone in charge who is going to shell out on playing staff commensurate with that expectation. If Roland, as it seems, is not prepared to do that, he needs to get out now because he is wasting everyone's time.
We do tend to get stuck in. Poor finishing and bad luck are costing us and it is a shame that we could not get another striker in.
If the tide turns and we are the ones going through a lucky period, will we accept that as about time;or will we take the view that we are still shit.
I don't think KR will set up a side to grind out results which is perhaps what we need at this level.
We've had a relatively easy set of opening fixtures in the first ten games and our defensive shortcomings are plainly evident.
Now it's the other way round, to virtually all the other clubs in L1 we're seen as a big fish, the sort of club that ought to be romping this league. That gives added pressure on any manager
He hasn't, and after 3 and a half years of sustained failure, in my opinion they are entitled to no leeway or benefit of the doubt whatsoever. Any promotion challenger will have the odd game in isolation where they drop points that on paper they shouldn't have, but four games without a win is early evidence that we are a play-off contender at best, and only an injury or two away from being mid-table mediocrity. That is not acceptable. The lack of investment in the transfer window is totally unacceptable. The results are entirely predictable.
Sacking Robinson will achieve nothing, he can only work with the tools he's given. However, he's spent his entire tenure covering his bosses arses, so he deserves every bit of criticism he gets.
When we got relegated from the Premier League under Curbs in 1999, there were so many games that we'd dominated but failed to take our chances. That's a familiar story for sides battling relegation, coming up against better-financed sides every week. If you claim to be going for promotion and you're using hard luck as an excuse 3 weeks on the spin (against bottom-half sides) then realistically you're nowhere near being good enough to challenge at the top.
Roland out.
If we do have a bad run of injuries we would really struggle.
Roland please just go...!!!
Remember when we put Jackio on in that Cardiff home game ?
You win, draw or lose by what you do on the pitch. If your tactics are well thought out and planned around getting the best out of your players, you will win games.
You need a plan B too for when you face the tougher, better organised or stronger sides.
Leicester won the Premier league by playing to strengths and utilising a plan b well.
Wilder led Sheffield United to the title last season doing this.
Powell and Curbs were similar in their ability to do this.
Riga managed to do this in the season he kept us up.
Not one DuchaMeire appointed manager since has been able to get the best from our players.
If you can't get the best out of your players and/or you are tactically inept you will win nothing.
If LEICESTER can win the bloody premier league, surely Charlton fuelled by home grown and lesser players with a couple of stars can win league 1 with the right tactics behind them.
A desire to work together and to WIN has to be the biggest part of the culture of the club. Until the clubs attitude changes, nothing else changes we remain shite.
We don't have the worst players in this league, a lot of our youth could play here comfortably, but they're barely getting a chance...
Unless their name is Ezri and the owner thinks we can get some money out of him, Or Karlan and you somehow see something in him, no one else does.