Well unfortunately I don't have any family and that's why Christmas is difficult for a lot of people, perhaps if I did, then I might think differently.
I did enjoy the food but as I don't eat meat or drink anymore, my choice I know then a lot of that's gone out the window.
But more importantly, for me personally, I'm trying to remove myself from a lot of what our "look at me" society worships and going on retreat may help me.
Not for everyone I know. I just hope it will be an interesting challenge and with a bit of luck a rewarding one.
Is it a phone based on a dumb waiter; you record your message and then has to tug a little pulley to have it go somewhere else.
Seriously though 'phone' is a misnomer. I think actually phoning people is a very small part of what most people expect their phones to do for them nowadays.
Sorry. Can't answer the question because I don't really understand it. Do you mean a mock phone like a theatre prop which you pretend to take calls on to get you out of awkward social situations?
Yes. I had a dumb phone for the last 4 years, a company phone but I left in April so had to get myself a phone. I've got an old Samsung s2 that was lying redundant in one of the kitchen drawers, stuck a payg sim in it and don't use anything online via the phone. Faceache and CL have to wait til I get home.
I do sometimes think it would be a good idea, to be free of all this stuff.
Hence my post about phones etc being god!
I might go on a retreat over the Christmas period, where all gadgetry is not allowed. I imagine it'll be difficult initially but it also might be liberating!
friend of mine goes on 'retreat' couple of times a year, a remote convent somewhere in Northumberland .. she leaves her children, iPhone, tablet, even her car and make up and all her other paraphernalia with hubby (don't think he uses the make up) and sets off .. says it makes her feel human again and keeps her sane .. luckily she has a VERY understanding husband or perhaps he's pleased to see the back of her for a few days every once n a while
Well unfortunately I don't have any family and that's why Christmas is difficult for a lot of people, perhaps if I did, then I might think differently.
I did enjoy the food but as I don't eat meat or drink anymore, my choice I know then a lot of that's gone out the window.
But more importantly, for me personally, I'm trying to remove myself from a lot of what our "look at me" society worships and going on retreat may help me.
Not for everyone I know. I just hope it will be an interesting challenge and with a bit of luck a rewarding one.
Yes, and most probably will when my current phone contract is up. I only use my phone for phone (funny that) texts & internet. I'm not on social media & don't download apps, music etc.
Dislike my Samsung 6 phone - always activating the apps on it everytime I pick it up & lost count the number of times I've inadvertedly called someone at 7 in the morning when I've (sleepily) picked it up.
If I can get a small, pocket sized phone that just does the basics I'd be more than happy. I thought with the onset of technology gadgets were supposed to get smaller, not bigger. I phones are almost the size of the "bricks" of 30 years ago. Wish I still had my nokia 6210.
Sorry. Can't answer the question because I don't really understand it. Do you mean a mock phone like a theatre prop which you pretend to take calls on to get you out of awkward social situations?
Mate that is called a phone and I don't think I'd be able to leave the house if I could not pretend to always be on my phone.
Seriously for you Dazzler, sometimes with past jobs I'd start getting messages and even sometimes phone calls at 4am and it could go until 7 or 8pm. It's a variation of being overworked, working across three timezones in the US, and the curse of working from home.
What I did to stay sane was turn off notifications from any app that was stressing me out. Email was a big one because I get work email on my phone. But the chat apps we'd use for work too (the mates I had at work knew to message my on my personal accounts if they just wanted to chat). Sometimes I'd switch them off during the day, largely so that I could get some fucking work done. But I'd make myself switch off all notifications at 6pm because that was the end of my day.
I'd advise doing the same for social media. I'm still sort of weirdly old school where if I want to use Facebook I actually go on Facebook instead of getting push notifications in real time.
Another things is I'd go running four times a week and I NEVER bring my phone with me when I'm running. I have an old fashioned iPod nano. And if I didn't run, I'd take the dog for a long walk without my phone. And I let everyone I worked closely with know that I was just un-fucking-reachable for that hour or whatever a day, and they knew if I didn't run I was very cranky.
Also, I recently got a tablet and because I use it for reading a lot (be it newspapers, online articles, or ebooks) I don't have any notifications switched on so it's a way for me to just read things and learn stuff and not have distractions.
You're not alone in this, it's a common problem these days. I've seen various YouTube videos on this, and what it's like taking a break from social media. If you Google "Social Media Detox" I think, you'll see stuff about it. Sorry this is all a bit scatterbrained.
The analogy stands. Walking is generally preferable to driving, but there are some reasons why a car's additional features are beneficial, when compared to walking.
In the same way, some people may prefer a dumb phone (although I can't imagine why anyone able-bodied would), but a smart phone's additional features are beneficial, when compared to a dumb phone.
For the avoidance of doubt, I wouldn't revert to a dumb phone. There would be no advantage in doing so.
bit of a random comment there? what relevance does being "able-bodied" have to owning a phone?
Dexterity. I bought a large-digit dumb phone for someone who had suffered a stroke. Other than for that reason, I can't imagine a good reason for owning one.
so they shouldn't be used unless there is something wrong with you?
No. I can't see any reason for drawing that inference.
You can use whatever you like. But I can't see a good reason for using one, other than the reason I gave.
I could, I only call and text on my phone, I could happily do without watsapp and use normal text. Can't be arsed to use the internet on my phone, it is good to be away from a PC when I am out.
I won't kid myself I'm that popular to be driven to distraction by constant notifications, besides anything else I sign out of my social media accounts.
I also feel I am living in a scary but incredibly exciting time for communication and how the future is being shaped and changed so quickly because of how connected we all are. I find the world goes by really quickly partly due to this ridiculously interesting piece of kit I've got in my hand (galaxy s8 in case anyone cares) not I small part because of how amazingly distractive it is.
Working away solo holds no fear for me now, I've got access to the web, God knows how many time wasting yet again interesting applications, games, live tv for fuck sake! I can now work in some shithole like Birmingham, and watch the cricket in peacein the evening, whilst guzzling beer in the corner of a pub. As opposed to sitting in a hotel room furiously hunched over a blurring fist to the hotels soft core pornographical 14 quid a go options.
I completely understand how people dislike how dominant smart devices have become in our lives but this is for the individual to maintain a healthy relationship with. Shuffling along a street with a phone glued to your face is remarkably stupid, and the sooner we make using a handset at the wheel of a vehicle as socially unacceptable as drink driving the better.
I'm a bright sider with this connected, 4 and 5G world. Yes, there is saturation of bullshit non news and social media platforms for people like Piers Morgan and any other sausage with an opinion to show the world how moronic they are but the best thing is we can switch their shit off and reject them, as opposed to 25 years, even 10 years ago you watched and got served what the media fed you with far less choice than now.
I can also speak to my mate who lives in the states face to face via our devices in real time. All of this stuff still blows my mind
The Nokia 3310 was a genuinely innovative and seemingly indestructible breakthrough, I'm glad we have continued to progress though, now the internet of things is galloping into our lives maybe the human race only has a limited shelf life before Terminator 2 becomes a reality which would also be exciting as well as fucking terrifying
I’d be lost without a smartphone. I’m addicted and not ashamed to admit. Comes in handy when my insomnia is being a prick as I can clear up my inbox at night
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Did it for 3 months when iphone fell in dog's water dish, amazing how quickly i got used to it. I got so much attention and admiration from people... I even got great bargain when buying 2nd hand scooter of a Fin who spotted my Nokia... But the best thing was marvelling at the capabilities of my new Xiaomi smart phone 3 months later as if I've never seen one before...
The analogy stands. Walking is generally preferable to driving, but there are some reasons why a car's additional features are beneficial, when compared to walking.
In the same way, some people may prefer a dumb phone (although I can't imagine why anyone able-bodied would), but a smart phone's additional features are beneficial, when compared to a dumb phone.
For the avoidance of doubt, I wouldn't revert to a dumb phone. There would be no advantage in doing so.
bit of a random comment there? what relevance does being "able-bodied" have to owning a phone?
Dexterity. I bought a large-digit dumb phone for someone who had suffered a stroke. Other than for that reason, I can't imagine a good reason for owning one.
My mum had to ditch the smart phone my sister bought for her as she couldn't handle the flat screen buttons, it sucks for me as now I can only call her when she's at home, with access to her iPad.
I couldn't do without my smart phone, it's replaced so many things for me, camera, mp3 player, maps, wallet.
I never have to worry about having money in my wallet, if I've got my phone I can pay for anything I want.
If I get stuck on a language point whilst out and about I have a dictionary on hand.
A few weeks ago I went to Shiping, the road signs we're not written in mandarin, everything was in the local 'Yi' language, by map was a life saver as despite being from the Yi minority, my Mrs couldn't read the signs either.
I purchased my little phone in 2009. It cost me £5. I top it up with credit every three months or so. I can call people or send them a text message. They can call or text me. Sometimes I have to side-step other people who are not looking where they are going. They stare, Zombie-like, at their 'smart' phones.
Good for you, like Stu says above though it is the user as opposed to the device here that is the issue
Was given a 4G phone for work earlier in the year. Used it about three times to go on the internet. Phone and text with it, it has whats app because I have to. Never used the camera.
I am just an old dinosaur who uses the computer to do this sort of thing, a camera to take a photo and the phone to phone people.
Ive been without a phone for about a week due to repair, it's been kinda nice. Although it's funny how you feel like a weirdo for actually sitting on a bus and staring blankly.
I use my phone for work emails, to play games, video call people abroad, take photos and videos of spur of the moment things, keep up to date with world news, watch live TV, phone family, send mates stupid videos and memes, work out the quickest way home at 3am when all my buses are on diversion, follow Charlton games when away for work and I use it to listen to music when travelling.
No chance would I swap this one piece of technology for a dozen different things to try and do all of those activities
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Is it a phone based on a dumb waiter; you record your message and then has to tug a little pulley to have it go somewhere else.
Seriously though 'phone' is a misnomer. I think actually phoning people is a very small part of what most people expect their phones to do for them nowadays.
Do you mean a mock phone like a theatre prop which you pretend to take calls on to get you out of awkward social situations?
luckily she has a VERY understanding husband or perhaps he's pleased to see the back of her for a few days every once n a while
Dislike my Samsung 6 phone - always activating the apps on it everytime I pick it up & lost count the number of times I've inadvertedly called someone at 7 in the morning when I've (sleepily) picked it up.
If I can get a small, pocket sized phone that just does the basics I'd be more than happy. I thought with the onset of technology gadgets were supposed to get smaller, not bigger. I phones are almost the size of the "bricks" of 30 years ago. Wish I still had my nokia 6210.
My mobile is an Alcatel phone that cost me 99p brand new in 2011.
I spend £10 on pay as you go which lasts me between 18 months to 2 years.
I have never ever sent a text message, and have never used voice mail.
I wouldn”t have a clue how to do either of these.
My wife often suggests that I get a modern phone but I am very happy being a dinosaur.
What I did to stay sane was turn off notifications from any app that was stressing me out. Email was a big one because I get work email on my phone. But the chat apps we'd use for work too (the mates I had at work knew to message my on my personal accounts if they just wanted to chat). Sometimes I'd switch them off during the day, largely so that I could get some fucking work done. But I'd make myself switch off all notifications at 6pm because that was the end of my day.
I'd advise doing the same for social media. I'm still sort of weirdly old school where if I want to use Facebook I actually go on Facebook instead of getting push notifications in real time.
Another things is I'd go running four times a week and I NEVER bring my phone with me when I'm running. I have an old fashioned iPod nano. And if I didn't run, I'd take the dog for a long walk without my phone. And I let everyone I worked closely with know that I was just un-fucking-reachable for that hour or whatever a day, and they knew if I didn't run I was very cranky.
Also, I recently got a tablet and because I use it for reading a lot (be it newspapers, online articles, or ebooks) I don't have any notifications switched on so it's a way for me to just read things and learn stuff and not have distractions.
You're not alone in this, it's a common problem these days. I've seen various YouTube videos on this, and what it's like taking a break from social media. If you Google "Social Media Detox" I think, you'll see stuff about it. Sorry this is all a bit scatterbrained.
Good luck.
People let their phones dictate their life.
You sound right on the money.
You can use whatever you like. But I can't see a good reason for using one, other than the reason I gave.
I also feel I am living in a scary but incredibly exciting time for communication and how the future is being shaped and changed so quickly because of how connected we all are. I find the world goes by really quickly partly due to this ridiculously interesting piece of kit I've got in my hand (galaxy s8 in case anyone cares) not I small part because of how amazingly distractive it is.
Working away solo holds no fear for me now, I've got access to the web, God knows how many time wasting yet again interesting applications, games, live tv for fuck sake! I can now work in some shithole like Birmingham, and watch the cricket in peacein the evening, whilst guzzling beer in the corner of a pub. As opposed to sitting in a hotel room furiously hunched over a blurring fist to the hotels soft core pornographical 14 quid a go options.
I completely understand how people dislike how dominant smart devices have become in our lives but this is for the individual to maintain a healthy relationship with. Shuffling along a street with a phone glued to your face is remarkably stupid, and the sooner we make using a handset at the wheel of a vehicle as socially unacceptable as drink driving the better.
I'm a bright sider with this connected, 4 and 5G world. Yes, there is saturation of bullshit non news and social media platforms for people like Piers Morgan and any other sausage with an opinion to show the world how moronic they are but the best thing is we can switch their shit off and reject them, as opposed to 25 years, even 10 years ago you watched and got served what the media fed you with far less choice than now.
I can also speak to my mate who lives in the states face to face via our devices in real time. All of this stuff still blows my mind
The Nokia 3310 was a genuinely innovative and seemingly indestructible breakthrough, I'm glad we have continued to progress though, now the internet of things is galloping into our lives maybe the human race only has a limited shelf life before Terminator 2 becomes a reality which would also be exciting as well as fucking terrifying
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Tablet for all the other stuff.
But the best thing was marvelling at the capabilities of my new Xiaomi smart phone 3 months later as if I've never seen one before...
I couldn't do without my smart phone, it's replaced so many things for me, camera, mp3 player, maps, wallet.
I never have to worry about having money in my wallet, if I've got my phone I can pay for anything I want.
If I get stuck on a language point whilst out and about I have a dictionary on hand.
A few weeks ago I went to Shiping, the road signs we're not written in mandarin, everything was in the local 'Yi' language, by map was a life saver as despite being from the Yi minority, my Mrs couldn't read the signs either.
In my opinion though, society would be better if the things weren't invented in the first place.
I am just an old dinosaur who uses the computer to do this sort of thing, a camera to take a photo and the phone to phone people.
Although it's funny how you feel like a weirdo for actually sitting on a bus and staring blankly.
No chance would I swap this one piece of technology for a dozen different things to try and do all of those activities