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Vlad. Smicer talking nonsense about English club protests; please help me put him right

Last night my neighbour Mad Vincent and I went to watch Dukla-Sparta -only in the pub, fortunately, it was a dire 0-0. Sparta fans are in relentless conflict with their owners. Vladimir Smicer meanwhile is an ex Slavia player, now a coach there, under their very murky Chinese owners. He is also a regular pundit on Czech TV. Apparently Smicer publicly slagged off the protesting Sparta fans, and said, in terms, "I played in England, and trust me this would never happen at a Premier League club, such disrespect towards owners". Vincent asked me if this is true, and I nearly spat my beer out.

So I will put something togetherfor social media to show Smicer just how wrong he is. Would appreciate any ideas on specific examples - and linked videos of such protests would be especially good. I think I would focus on FAPL or ex-FAPL teams, names that Smicer remembers, so I can think of

- his own old club Liverpool of course. When was it they walked out during a game?

- Blackburn - when they put a chicken on the pitch

- Leeds.

Any others? Not sure if Hull or Cardiff would register with Smicer as FAPL clubs

Of course I will take the opportunity to showcase us as the absolute world-class creative protesters :-)

Thanks in advance for any ideas

Comments

  • Didnt he play for us for a while?
  • edited October 2017
    Not in the Prem, but Leeds fans planned a walk out.
    https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/2015/dec/03/leeds-fans-elland-road-walk-out-protest-cellino-pie-tax

    And Hull.
    http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11714/10521447/hull-city-fans-to-protest-at-premier-league-opener-against-leicester

    Man Utd with the Newton Heath scarf wearing

    Villa also did something (may have been turning their backs in the pitch?) can’t remember.
  • I don't know if you know this Prague, but little old Charlton once fielded candidates in a local election; though to be fair to VS that was more in protest at the council than the owners :wink:
  • Arsenal? The anti Wenger protest and the hunting bloke?
  • Didnt he play for us for a while?

    Nope we have never had a Czech player. Pretty sure he played against us for Liverpool. Berger certainly did.

  • edited October 2017
    Man Yoo's Delia scarves & FC United.

    Edit: beaten to it, although forming a whole new club is a rather large protest.
  • Newcastle v Ashley has been going on for years now.
  • Didnt he play for us for a while?

    Ah, it was Smertin i was thinking of.
  • Would Mad Vincent know of Blackpool and Coventry City?
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  • edited October 2017

    Didnt he play for us for a while?

    Are you thinking of Alexei Smertin?
    I know he's not Czech, but when you said this, I immediately thought of him for some reason. No idea why! :blush:
  • Didnt he play for us for a while?

    Who Mad Vincent?
    Tan.
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    Brighton fans with a very tasteful banner showing what they thought of their owners. In 1996 their protests included boycotting games. In one match against Mansfield they watched the first half from outside and then scaled the gates at half time to watch the game free.


    Womble Balloons001
    One time Premier League Wimbledon (though they were relegated about a year before this picture was taken) show Charlton fans how to use black balloons as a form of protest. Perhaps bizarrely from the perspective of your average Charlton fan, they were protesting to stay at Selhurst!


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    Man Utd fans with a banner that very neatly sums up the fans v owners position.


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    Charlton fans with a banner that very neatly sums up what they think of their CEO.


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    Of course, not everything that looks like a protest really is. Here we see Cardiff fans celebrating wildly after managing to scrape a 0-0 draw with Charlton.


    Finally, you might find these articles of interest:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/12149746/A-history-of-football-fan-protests-do-they-really-work.html

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/11515517/Arsenal-and-Liverpool-fans-protest-at-ticket-prices.html
  • As for videos, I think there's none better than this. Not only does it showcase fans creativity and enthusiasm like nothing else, but it also includes loads of great footage:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89ITB5HKh9k

  • Would Mad Vincent know of Blackpool and Coventry City?

    Vincent does, but Smicer is the problem. However Coventry is a good call, because they would have been FAPL when he was in England.

    It actually gets to be quite a long list...

  • Are Dukla the original army team or did another Prague team buy their name?
  • edited October 2017
    Fans making threats? Well, the effigy is a good likeness of Malcolm Glazer.

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  • Are Dukla the original army team or did another Prague team buy their name?

    Well..it is the same club, in that it is in the same old stadium, a rather neutered place nowadays. And the club logo harks back to the old days.

    As the army club Dukla was hated because it succeeded by basically ensuring all the best players were conscripted. They had to stop playing for Sparta or Slavia and instead turn out for Dukla. After the revolution the entire modus operandi fell apart. They descended through the league and at one point a provincial businessman bought the licence and moved the club to some small town. But the stadium was always maintained in pristine condition (most Czech clubs don't own their stadia).

    The current owner bought it and them back, and on the field he has done a good job, getting them back to the top flight and keeping them there. The slightly odd thing is the fanbase. I first went there when they were playing Viktoria, and expected to find the crowd of about 2,000 would be grizzled old Communist blokes. Imagine my surprise to find it was full of middle class families doing the happy clappy thing, and apparently oblivious to actual events on the pitch. It is a very strange place to watch football now. That's why we watched it in the pub :smile:



  • Are Dukla the original army team or did another Prague team buy their name?

    Well..it is the same club, in that it is in the same old stadium, a rather neutered place nowadays. And the club logo harks back to the old days.

    As the army club Dukla was hated because it succeeded by basically ensuring all the best players were conscripted. They had to stop playing for Sparta or Slavia and instead turn out for Dukla. After the revolution the entire modus operandi fell apart. They descended through the league and at one point a provincial businessman bought the licence and moved the club to some small town. But the stadium was always maintained in pristine condition (most Czech clubs don't own their stadia).

    The current owner bought it and them back, and on the field he has done a good job, getting them back to the top flight and keeping them there. The slightly odd thing is the fanbase. I first went there when they were playing Viktoria, and expected to find the crowd of about 2,000 would be grizzled old Communist blokes. Imagine my surprise to find it was full of middle class families doing the happy clappy thing, and apparently oblivious to actual events on the pitch. It is a very strange place to watch football now. That's why we watched it in the pub :smile:



    I have seen Dukla play twice, both times away in Prague derbies. Against Slavia they brought a maximum of 150, in March at Bohemians they had about half that figure!
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