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Designs for new Valley Gates - Usual regime stuff: good idea ruined by lack of thought and planning

From the Trust website https://www.castrust.org/2017/10/new-gate-proposal/

In the usual cack handed club style it's meant to be a consultation but you've got until Friday 13th October (yes, tomorrow) to give them feedback on the designs to an email address they never use or respond to.

But there is a different deadline for the text (next Tuesday) even though the text is dependent on the design

And the anniversary is in 8 weeks time.

And, IMHO, the designs are poor.

From the Trust site

"As part of the Back to the Valley 25th anniversary celebrations the club propose to install new main gates at the stadium.

The club are inviting feedback on the designs below.

If you would like to comment or state a preference (or suggest an alternative wording) please e mail fans@cafc.co.uk

The deadline for comments on gate design and text location is 5pm this Friday 13th October.

The deadline for the actual text is Tuesday 17th at 5pm.

We have expressed our disappointment to the club about the short notice that we have been given us on this as we think it could have been a much more inclusive exercise."



Meanwhile the Sam Bartram Gate still has no sign since the old one fell off.

A

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B

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C

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D

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E

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Just piss poor all round.
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Comments

  • iainment
    iainment Posts: 8,039
    I agree.
  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,733
    Is there an option F? - throw all those designs away and start again, doing it properly.

    They can't even get the words lined up straight FFS
  • Piss poor as usual
  • leftbehind
    leftbehind Posts: 8,581
    A is OK, but with the Middle of C would be OK

  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    the wording on A will be meaningless come next year. Not really keen on any of them. D and E are atrocious in my opinion. Any fan input into the designs?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219

    the wording on A will be meaningless come next year. Not really keen on any of them. D and E are atrocious in my opinion. Any fan input into the designs?

    You've got till tomorrow.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    Compare this design "consultation" with that of Hummel.

    The shirt company spoke to dozens of fans face to face at the in September for the shirt that will be released next summer.

    They had 6 home and 6 away designs worked up and had the references back to older shirts and colours.

    They had four members of staff in the room, asking questions, making notes, taking on board ideas.

    Now the club, "Fuck, we better pretend we asked the fans, quick send out an email, we won't be able to pay for the gates anyway but we can tick the consultation box"
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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    is there room in the museum for the current gates?
  • bbob
    bbob Posts: 550
    Dazzler21 said:

    D looks really good and scale-able. You know, if you want to get on the pitch at night.

    let's not start sex on the pitch again please
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,358
    E is good
  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,733
    It's absolutely typical of the way the place is run these days. Fiddle around ineptly with pointless stuff that doesn't really matter in the hope of getting some easy PR wins. All the while, what really matters - the actual bloody football team, is left to limp along, underfunded and undermanned as usual.

    The idiots that run our club aren't even good enough to get on 'The Apprentice'.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Should flood the provided email address with pictures of Gareth Gates seen as the club will never bother opening a single email addressed there anyway.

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  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,046
    I'll vote for whichever one Katrien leaves by, never to return!!

    I'd have included Roly in that statement, but he'd have to have actually been here to walk out!
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    The club will go with option D and moan when people climb over it

    Anyway, the only gate I'm interested in, is the one they close when they walk out the door..!!
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    they should concentrate on giving the fans something to be proud of on the pitch touched on it before, 25 years great but if this mob carry on there wont be a 50th celebration.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    Redhenry said:

    E is good

    But doesn't actually mention the anniversery it is meant to be marking
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  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,899
    maybe our new sponsors could be microsoft so we could call them the ...... .....Gates
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,148
    As the gates are open when most people see them, the option of a design where the message is not split in half would be nice...
  • Surely the badge should be the significant feature in any design. All designs look cheap and nasty. There are people on here that could do a better mock up in 30 minutes.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    What are the gates commenmorating?

    The Valley?

    The Valley's address?

    A song we sing?

    Or the return to the Valley?

    "5 December 1992"

    That is all that is needed.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    Missed It said:

    It's absolutely typical of the way the place is run these days. Fiddle around ineptly with pointless stuff that doesn't really matter in the hope of getting some easy PR wins. All the while, what really matters - the actual bloody football team, is left to limp along, underfunded and undermanned as usual.

    The idiots that run our club aren't even good enough to get on 'The Apprentice'.

    and that is really saying something considering the idiots on it this year

  • HarryLime
    HarryLime Posts: 1,295
    I emailed them, I got the usual auto response, I asked them to do a proper consultation with fans on the design to get it right as those offered were shockers.
    I expect not to hear from them again.
    At least I'll know where the Konsa money will have been spent.
  • HarryLime said:

    I emailed them, I got the usual auto response, I asked them to do a proper consultation with fans on the design to get it right as those offered were shockers.
    I expect not to hear from them again.
    At least I'll know where the Konsa money will have been spent.

    A very small chunk of the Konsa money, by the looks of those.

    They are appropriate for Katrien's Wendy House though
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,846
    edited October 2017
    would rather @stig knock something up
  • I assume these gates will be on one side of the club shop?

    The problem with gates there, is that on matchdays, they'll be fully open and nobody will see them anyway unless the message is over the top, and not on the opening section, as with the Shankly Gates

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