Klopp puts all his eggs in one basket with Van Dyk, got to have back up options, lovren is terrible. Massively disagree with people saying Rooney is shite, if you watch him off the ball he is strides above the players around him, i think he is suffering from playing with people who aren't on his level, his goal was excellent too
I completely disagree - Rooney slows everything down, and is giving the ball away far too much
Klopp puts all his eggs in one basket with Van Dyk, got to have back up options, lovren is terrible. Massively disagree with people saying Rooney is shite, if you watch him off the ball he is strides above the players around him, i think he is suffering from playing with people who aren't on his level, his goal was excellent too
I completely disagree - Rooney slows everything down, and is giving the ball away far too much
Rooney is a class above anything else in the Everton side.
Klopp seems to get a free pass from just about everyone...presumably because he pulls funny faces and gives a good post match interview. I can't understand why he is not under more pressure now personally?
Klopp seems to get a free pass from just about everyone...presumably because he pulls funny faces and gives a good post match interview. I can't understand why he is not under more pressure now personally?
Agreed- it's the only thing I agree with Joey Barton on
Liverpool are 3 points away from a top 4 spot. Would be madness to sack a manager who is a win or two away from getting to their expectations.
He does get a bit of an easy ride admittedly. Needs to sort the defence but reckon he will get a bit of time seeing as they did try to sign one. Needs to address that though, selling Sakho with no replacing was madness. Second only to us offloading 9 strikers and loaning a dud.
The Liverpool fan that I know points to the the fact that Klopp took Rogers' team and made them good, which would suggest that there's more to him than just hype.
The Liverpool fan that I know points to the the fact that Klopp took Rogers' team and made them good, which would suggest that there's more to him than just hype.
Until the defence gets sorted out Liverpool will continue to flatter to deceive, not that they did much of that against Spurs, who ripped them to shreds!
Liverpool are just not in the same league as the top four in transfer fees or wages so it is no surprise that they are chasing a top four spot and no more.
Until Klopp, or his successor, is going to be given £250m to spend in one window they are not going to be able to compete with Chelsea, Man United or Man City. Spurs are a bit different because they have managed to bring players in on the cheap or promoted them from their youth side. Players like Harry Kane come along once a generation, a bit like Steven Gerrard or Jamie Carragher. Until Liverpool can pull one of those out of a hat or spend £80m on a striker they are not going to win the league.
Joe Gomez, who is playing regularly now is nothing like Walker who Man Ciry paid £50m for. With such a gulf between the sides spending power sacking Klopp would just be insane.
Liverpool are just not in the same league as the top four in transfer fees or wages so it is no surprise that they are chasing a top four spot and no more.
Until Klopp, or his successor, is going to be given £250m to spend in one window they are not going to be able to compete with Chelsea, Man United or Man City. Spurs are a bit different because they have managed to bring players in on the cheap or promoted them from their youth side. Players like Harry Kane come along once a generation, a bit like Steven Gerrard or Jamie Carragher. Until Liverpool can pull one of those out of a hat or spend £80m on a striker they are not going to win the league.
Joe Gomez, who is playing regularly now is nothing like Walker who Man Ciry paid £50m for. With such a gulf between the sides spending power sacking Klopp would just be insane.
Agree to a point, Liverpool do not have the same spending power as the 3 mention teams. Although I would guess that they didn't spend far off what Chelsea did in the summer. But they spent as much as Spurs and Arsenal. Yes Spurs have their luck with Kane coming so good, but credit where it's due with the management of Pochettino and the bargains like Dier, Eriksen, Alli and Vertonghen.
With Coutinho, Firmino, Lallane, Salah and Mane, Liverpool are clearly a real force going forward. Perhaps lack an out and out striker with Sturridge not really favoured, but the obvious thing they need to change is their defence. It's not all to do with how much they have to spend IMO, they just need to work on it more and get rid of players like Moreno and Klavan.
But this is the thing, it is not so much about personnel as the systems in place and attitude of the players.
You could have the AC Milan back four from the 90’s in that Liverpool team, and they would still struggle.
The 4-3-3 shape, and lack of a ball winner or physically imposing midfielder, means that Liverpool will always give up chances.
They play on the counter, with 5 or 6 players getting forward, so are inherently vulnerable to be countered themselves.
It's the way that Klopp's teams have always played - fast and furious football.
True enough, but having the likes of Hummels helped him Dortmund.
Yes they are going to be vulnerable, especially on the counter, but having a good defence to go with their attacking line up would still get them a more points.
The Liverpool fan that I know points to the the fact that Klopp took Rogers' team and made them good, which would suggest that there's more to him than just hype.
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Going to become a CL favourite that one...
As much as I dislike wetspam I want them to destroy palarce
He does get a bit of an easy ride admittedly. Needs to sort the defence but reckon he will get a bit of time seeing as they did try to sign one. Needs to address that though, selling Sakho with no replacing was madness. Second only to us offloading 9 strikers and loaning a dud.
Until Klopp, or his successor, is going to be given £250m to spend in one window they are not going to be able to compete with Chelsea, Man United or Man City. Spurs are a bit different because they have managed to bring players in on the cheap or promoted them from their youth side. Players like Harry Kane come along once a generation, a bit like Steven Gerrard or Jamie Carragher. Until Liverpool can pull one of those out of a hat or spend £80m on a striker they are not going to win the league.
Joe Gomez, who is playing regularly now is nothing like Walker who Man Ciry paid £50m for. With such a gulf between the sides spending power sacking Klopp would just be insane.
With Coutinho, Firmino, Lallane, Salah and Mane, Liverpool are clearly a real force going forward. Perhaps lack an out and out striker with Sturridge not really favoured, but the obvious thing they need to change is their defence. It's not all to do with how much they have to spend IMO, they just need to work on it more and get rid of players like Moreno and Klavan.
You could have the AC Milan back four from the 90’s in that Liverpool team, and they would still struggle.
The 4-3-3 shape, and lack of a ball winner or physically imposing midfielder, means that Liverpool will always give up chances.
They play on the counter, with 5 or 6 players getting forward, so are inherently vulnerable to be countered themselves.
It's the way that Klopp's teams have always played - fast and furious football.
Yes they are going to be vulnerable, especially on the counter, but having a good defence to go with their attacking line up would still get them a more points.