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Seth Plum's (the real one) 1923 England cap now in the Museum

Henry IrvingHenry Irving
in General Charlton
You know all that money we raise from selling stuff on here and ebay or from your donations?

Well, we raise the money so that when we are offered an unique item from the club's history we can buy it.

Seth Plum was part of the Charlton giant killing side of 1923 and that was a factor in him being called up to play for England.v France. England won 4 - 1 with Plum at right half.

Despite the result he was never picked again for his country but he will forever be our first ever international.

So when we were offered the chance to buy his cap we couldn't pass up the opportunity.

Thanks to @seth plum who made a very generous donation to the cost of his namesake's headwear but any other Addicks feel free to chip in too.

Caps then were colour coded for each game and not the uniform blue with the three lions issued now hence why it is strawberry and cream.

It has gone straight on display, in an alarmed cabinet, in the Museum.

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Comments

  • LargeAddickLargeAddick
    thought that was the only sort of cabinet we had now?

    oops, wrong thread
  • Davo55Davo55
    By strange co-incidence, our @seth plum also has a cap dating back to about 1923, as well as a scarf and a nice pair of hobnail boots.

    But his neck is not as long and black as the poor guy in the photo.... :wink:
  • seth plumseth plum
    GHF a generous contribution yourself sir.
    Charlton Athletic a club founded in the grim industrial Thameside streets by 15 year old boys has its first full England international within 18 years.
  • Alex WrightAlex Wright
    Excellent work by all at the museum. *doffs cap*
  • thai malaysia addickthai malaysia addick
    You mean @seth plum is imaginary.
  • Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    thai malaysia addick said:
    You mean @seth plum is imaginary.
    He has a great imagination 😁
  • PopIconPopIcon
    How much does an item like this cost?
    It's a joy that the museum are able bring all these bit of memorabilia together.
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  • FumbluffFumbluff
    Henry Irving said:
    thai malaysia addick said:
    You mean @seth plum is imaginary.
    He has a great imagination 😁
    When he’s not gambling...
  • Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    PopIcon said:
    How much does an item like this cost?
    It's a joy that the museum are able bring all these bit of memorabilia together.
    The seller had bought it for £200.

    He offered it to the museum for £2,500.

    We had it valued independently and offered £1200 which is what it was likely to fetch in a football auction and it was accepted.

    £1200 is a hell of a lot of money for the Museum but it's a very special item from our very early history.
  • seth plumseth plum
    If the cap fits.......
  • Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    99 years ago today Seth Plum became our first ever international.
  • AFKABartramAFKABartram
    Little know fact but massive meat eater was Seth, particularly horse meat. Nickname was The Butcher
  • seth plumseth plum
    …the bastard.
  • Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    AFKABartram said:
    Little know fact but massive meat eater was Seth, particularly horse meat. Nickname was The Butcher
    Think you might me confusing him with William "porky" Bonner, founding member of the club and great  grandfather of the current Cambridge manager.


  • soapboxsamsoapboxsam
    edited May 2022
    Why did the great Seth Plum only get one cap ?
    You play in a 4-1 win for England and get 7.2 average mark on the players scores; confirmed by Lancs lad. Cafc were good in the cup in those days  ( blimey, must've been a long time ago) which brought Seth to the attention of the selectors !)

    Was Frank Moss of Villa or Harry Panting of Sheffield United better Right halves than our Seth who at 23 was only going to improve; that's a rhetorical question as the answer is NO.

    A guy called Jimmy Seed was an inside right for England in 1923 who was decent (uncertain what happened to him ?) and a centre forward called Charles Buchan.
    A plumsted born boy who played for his local team ?  Woolwich Arsenal before having a good career at Sunderland and being a Journalist, remembered by the senior CL members: Charles Buchan football Monthly.

    They say in life it's not where you start but where you end up. Charles Buchan was born in Plumsted and ended up in Monte Carlo.
  • Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    Actually, KillerJerryLee researched this for the Valiant 1000

    Plum did well but wouldn't stop going on about Irish home rule and the league of nations in the dressing room so he was banned by the selection committee.  
  • StarinnaddickStarinnaddick
    I n the 1901 census Charles Buchan was a youngster living in Nyanza Street Plumstead. In 1911 he is shown as a boarder in a hotel in Sunderland having joined them from Arsenal. 
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  • ChizzChizz
    Henry Irving said:
    The great nephew of Seth Plum visited the museum today to see his ancestor's England cap.

    He's looking forward to Enfield Town drawing Charlton in the London Senior Cup 
    He's a lot taller than his relative
  • charlton4evercharlton4ever
    That's brilliant - well done the Museum. 
  • ShootersHillGuruShootersHillGuru
    Is it an argumentative cap ?
  • Richard JRichard J
    Henry Irving said:
    The great nephew of Seth Plum visited the museum today to see his ancestor's England cap.

    He's looking forward to Enfield Town drawing Charlton in the London Senior Cup 
    Interesting that his relative follows Enfield.

    His relative played for their great historic rivals Barnet before he joined us.
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