I don’t want to go to matches whilst RD is sill owner. However I have been going to a few each season. My 9 and 11 year old sons both want to go. They don’t quite understand the issues surrounding ownership. If I didn’t take them occasionally then I’m sure I’ll be losing them to some Premiership team. Then when finally the day comes that RD has left I’ll be going to games on my own where I should be having my sons with me. Fans of that age are important for the future and sustainability of this great family football club.
I don’t want to go to matches whilst RD is sill owner. However I have been going to a few each season. My 9 and 11 year old sons both want to go. They don’t quite understand the issues surrounding ownership. If I didn’t take them occasionally then I’m sure I’ll be losing them to some Premiership team. Then when finally the day comes that RD has left I’ll be going to games on my own where I should be having my sons with me. Fans of that age are important for the future and sustainability of this great family football club.
You’re so cruel;)
I wish someone had called The Child Support Agency when my dad started taking me.
Those that go could perhaps should finally join the boycotters for one last push to end the disastrous period of Duchatalet and his team?
No. You come to the game and show investors what could be.
I am a CARD supporter and follow their direction. I think we that go are right and you are wrong and have let the team and Robbo down.
Happy for you all to make your own decision (I think calling it a sacrifice is pushing it), and look forward to when we can all be one again in just doing such a simple thing as supporting our team.
There are numerous bad owners and it's quite possible we'll have them again in the future - boycotting as far as I can see doesn't touch RD as he's minted.
A boycott with an owner who was really desperate for income might work but this current boycott for me has not been effective.
If every football fan whose club had a bad owner boycotted football would soon disappear. Bad owners are a fact of life.....
So Duchatelet has not done anything different to other owners?
It will be interesting to know how many of the people who've stopped going in the last few years are pure boycotters (i.e. will be back straight away) and how many are more "disillusioned" types (i.e. crap football, 3rd division etc)
After all, it's not as if our away attendances have soared, with loads of extra people going to away watches instead.
The amount of fans who said they'd go to more aways to compensate for not attending The Valley, there has not been an increase. If anything the away numbers has got worse.
Those that go could perhaps should finally join the boycotters for one last push to end the disastrous period of Duchatalet and his team?
No. You come to the game and show investors what could be.
I am a CARD supporter and follow their direction. I think we that go are right and you are wrong and have let the team and Robbo down.
Happy for you all to make your own decision (I think calling it a sacrifice is pushing it), and look forward to when we can all be one again in just doing such a simple thing as supporting our team.
Or, alternatively, those that have continued to attend have prolonged Roland's reign, as a larger boycott would surely have increased his losses (the losses apparently are why he is so keen to sell, according to RM). Investors do not need to see bums on seats to know what could be.
There are numerous bad owners and it's quite possible we'll have them again in the future - boycotting as far as I can see doesn't touch RD as he's minted.
A boycott with an owner who was really desperate for income might work but this current boycott for me has not been effective.
If every football fan whose club had a bad owner boycotted football would soon disappear. Bad owners are a fact of life.....
So Duchatelet has not done anything different to other owners?
Some people just don't get it.
You know what I think do you? You're obviously a mind reader.
Wasn't aware I ever said all bad owners are the same. The only point I've made is that RD can live with the losses - a poorer owner would have caved in.
RD will sell up because his experiment has failed - nobody on this site really understands him. The statement from Murray doesn't really prove anything - RD was never likely to run Charlton at a profit whether there was a boycott or not.
RD is a miserable old scote who nobody really understands.
Roland has been destroying our club and fans that do something about it whether it is effective or not, are at least trying to do something! We all need to come together as fans when he does go as our objective is to regain fans and get us moving in the right direction. The new owners can I am sure count on our full support in that respect.
Those that go could perhaps should finally join the boycotters for one last push to end the disastrous period of Duchatalet and his team?
No. You come to the game and show investors what could be.
I am a CARD supporter and follow their direction. I think we that go are right and you are wrong and have let the team and Robbo down.
Happy for you all to make your own decision (I think calling it a sacrifice is pushing it), and look forward to when we can all be one again in just doing such a simple thing as supporting our team.
Or, alternatively, those that have continued to attend have prolonged Roland's reign, as a larger boycott would surely have increased his losses (the losses apparently are why he is so keen to sell, according to RM). Investors do not need to see bums on seats to know what could be.
Roland has been destroying our club and fans that do something about it whether it is effective or not, are at least trying to do something! We all need to come together as fans when he does go as our objective is to regain fans and get us moving in the right direction. The new owners can I am sure count on our full support in that respect.
Protests and a media campaign seem to have been the most effective in dealing with RD. The main trouble in dealing with him is that nobody really understands him and he can afford to run the club in such an appalling manner.
His ownership of football clubs seems to have been an experiment that has failed big time - when he finally goes I hope the club's finances are not completely destroyed.
Those that go could perhaps should finally join the boycotters for one last push to end the disastrous period of Duchatalet and his team?
No. You come to the game and show investors what could be.
I am a CARD supporter and follow their direction. I think we that go are right and you are wrong and have let the team and Robbo down.
Happy for you all to make your own decision (I think calling it a sacrifice is pushing it), and look forward to when we can all be one again in just doing such a simple thing as supporting our team.
Or, alternatively, those that have continued to attend have prolonged Roland's reign, as a larger boycott would surely have increased his losses (the losses apparently are why he is so keen to sell, according to RM). Investors do not need to see bums on seats to know what could be.
Those that go could perhaps should finally join the boycotters for one last push to end the disastrous period of Duchatalet and his team?
No. You come to the game and show investors what could be.
I am a CARD supporter and follow their direction. I think we that go are right and you are wrong and have let the team and Robbo down.
Happy for you all to make your own decision (I think calling it a sacrifice is pushing it), and look forward to when we can all be one again in just doing such a simple thing as supporting our team.
To take your argument to it's (il)logical collusion, let's all turn up at The Valley, fill every seat, get the place rocking. That will show RD how much we hate him for what he has done to our club, wont it!
There are numerous bad owners and it's quite possible we'll have them again in the future - boycotting as far as I can see doesn't touch RD as he's minted.
A boycott with an owner who was really desperate for income might work but this current boycott for me has not been effective.
If every football fan whose club had a bad owner boycotted football would soon disappear. Bad owners are a fact of life.....
So Duchatelet has not done anything different to other owners?
Some people just don't get it.
You know what I think do you? You're obviously a mind reader.
Wasn't aware I ever said all bad owners are the same. The only point I've made is that RD can live with the losses - a poorer owner would have caved in.
RD will sell up because his experiment has failed - nobody on this site really understands him. The statement from Murray doesn't really prove anything - RD was never likely to run Charlton at a profit whether there was a boycott or not.
RD is a miserable old scote who nobody really understands.
I think people realise that the owner has so much money that the loss of revenue is not going to finish him.
As seems to be more apparent now with more and more supporters, is the viewpoint I have held for a long time is that there is a principle involved and why give money to somebody who is f****** us over.
There is not a right or wrong with the attending or non-attending in my opinion.
Those that go could perhaps should finally join the boycotters for one last push to end the disastrous period of Duchatalet and his team?
No. You come to the game and show investors what could be.
I am a CARD supporter and follow their direction. I think we that go are right and you are wrong and have let the team and Robbo down.
Happy for you all to make your own decision (I think calling it a sacrifice is pushing it), and look forward to when we can all be one again in just doing such a simple thing as supporting our team.
To take your argument to it's (il)logical collusion, let's all turn up at The Valley, fill every seat, get the place rocking. That will show RD how much we hate him for what he has done to our club, wont it!
I am a boycotter and I will continue to do so until Roland leaves. I have supported Charlton since 1964 and within that time frame the current Charlton team is a comparatively poor one. I won't deny that the lack of quality on display has made my decision to boycott all games a little easier. There have been some poor teams in the past and I have previously continued to support them both at home and often away. The difference this time is that this team is poor by design. Roland has stated that winning games is not that important and Robinson's report of his conversation with Roland regarding the acquisition of Best as another striking option, demonstrates the owner's lack of interest in improving the team.
My decision to totally boycott was taken after the home game against Coventry last season where I witnessed an assault by four members of the club's security team on a youth who had the temerity to carry and wave a North Korean flag. Shortly before the assault some members of this foursome were seen and photographed in deep conversation with Katrien Meire and Tony Keohane. A club that organises attacks on it's own supporters is unworthy of my support and, I would suggest, anybody's support.
Roland has been reported as saying that the majority of Charlton supporters understand and support what he is doing at Charlton. I think we can take it that he means those who are continuing to attend.
Those that go could perhaps should finally join the boycotters for one last push to end the disastrous period of Duchatalet and his team?
No. You come to the game and show investors what could be.
I am a CARD supporter and follow their direction. I think we that go are right and you are wrong and have let the team and Robbo down.
Happy for you all to make your own decision (I think calling it a sacrifice is pushing it), and look forward to when we can all be one again in just doing such a simple thing as supporting our team.
I can understand why people go; it is because they can’t not. That’s ok. But to say the team is different from the owner is plainly wrong and just a way to make going feel right in my view.
If no one went he may have sold years back.
If his team hadn’t got relegated and failed to return to the championship he wouldn’t be selling.
But as you say when he is gone we will all be on the same hymn sheet again.
Those that go could perhaps should finally join the boycotters for one last push to end the disastrous period of Duchatalet and his team?
No. You come to the game and show investors what could be.
I am a CARD supporter and follow their direction. I think we that go are right and you are wrong and have let the team and Robbo down.
Happy for you all to make your own decision (I think calling it a sacrifice is pushing it), and look forward to when we can all be one again in just doing such a simple thing as supporting our team.
To take your argument to it's (il)logical collusion, let's all turn up at The Valley, fill every seat, get the place rocking. That will show RD how much we hate him for what he has done to our club, wont it!
Protests or boycott- you decide?
Thanks hoof. I have decided. I have taken an active involvement in all protests incl Belgium. No protests this season so no attendances from me.
I can understand that a boycott for some is a step too far; too much disruption to their social life. But to those I say dont hide behind a statement that attending games (and thus supporting the regime) is the correct strategy. Be honest, if only to yourself.
I don't imagine for a moment that RD gives a flying one about how many people dislike him. If all the boycotters came back now we know he's actively trying to sell, it would make the club more attractive to prospective new owners. It'd give substance to Murray's words about a support-base that could increase again. I don't think Roland's interest in the club's supporters would change one iota.
Not attending matches isn't pushing Roland to sell. But attending games and giving more of a vibrancy to The Valley for the rest of the season could lift the club both on and off the field to a brighter future.
To take your argument to it's (il)logical collusion, let's all turn up at The Valley, fill every seat, get the place rocking. That will show RD how much we hate him for what he has done to our club, wont it!
In a sense, yes it would. It would show that at the first sniff of the club leaving his dirty grip, supporters came back. If we suddenly had 15,000 home supporters at the Oxford game he's not going to be thinking 'actually they love me after all, I'll stay a bit longer'.
Those that go could perhaps should finally join the boycotters for one last push to end the disastrous period of Duchatalet and his team?
No. You come to the game and show investors what could be.
I am a CARD supporter and follow their direction. I think we that go are right and you are wrong and have let the team and Robbo down.
Happy for you all to make your own decision (I think calling it a sacrifice is pushing it), and look forward to when we can all be one again in just doing such a simple thing as supporting our team.
To take your argument to it's (il)logical collusion, let's all turn up at The Valley, fill every seat, get the place rocking. That will show RD how much we hate him for what he has done to our club, wont it!
To take your argument to its (il)logical conclusion, we could have all stayed away and there would be no club left to go back too!
Calling for those that go now to boycott (which is the suggestion I was responding to) at this late stage is a little nieve IMO, especially as many are season ticket holders and it would make no difference whatsoever.
It also ignores the fact that many think boycotting was wrong, and still do.
Make your own mind up and do what you feel is right, but the suggestion that a few more boycotters would be the ‘final push’ seems to me that someone is trying to suggest that this has been a major factor in his reason to leave?
Personally I put the credit with the actions of the Belgium 20 and CARDS publicity campaign, but mostly with the fact that Rolly is mentally unsound and his plan was doomed to failure from the off.
Those that go could perhaps should finally join the boycotters for one last push to end the disastrous period of Duchatalet and his team?
No. You come to the game and show investors what could be.
I am a CARD supporter and follow their direction. I think we that go are right and you are wrong and have let the team and Robbo down.
Happy for you all to make your own decision (I think calling it a sacrifice is pushing it), and look forward to when we can all be one again in just doing such a simple thing as supporting our team.
To take your argument to it's (il)logical collusion, let's all turn up at The Valley, fill every seat, get the place rocking. That will show RD how much we hate him for what he has done to our club, wont it!
Protests or boycott- you decide?
Thanks hoof. I have decided. I have taken an active involvement in all protests incl Belgium. No protests this season so no attendances from me.
I can understand that a boycott for some is a step too far; too much disruption to their social life. But to those I say dont hide behind a statement that attending games (and thus supporting the regime) is the correct strategy. Be honest, if only to yourself.
Your analysis is over simplistic - most Charlton fans want him out and nobody fully understands his logic. There is more than one strategy however difficult you find that to accept.
To state that if I attend games I support the regime is bollocks(in my opinion).
Those that go could perhaps should finally join the boycotters for one last push to end the disastrous period of Duchatalet and his team?
No. You come to the game and show investors what could be.
I am a CARD supporter and follow their direction. I think we that go are right and you are wrong and have let the team and Robbo down.
Happy for you all to make your own decision (I think calling it a sacrifice is pushing it), and look forward to when we can all be one again in just doing such a simple thing as supporting our team.
To take your argument to it's (il)logical collusion, let's all turn up at The Valley, fill every seat, get the place rocking. That will show RD how much we hate him for what he has done to our club, wont it!
Protests or boycott- you decide?
Thanks hoof. I have decided. I have taken an active involvement in all protests incl Belgium. No protests this season so no attendances from me.
I can understand that a boycott for some is a step too far; too much disruption to their social life. But to those I say dont hide behind a statement that attending games (and thus supporting the regime) is the correct strategy. Be honest, if only to yourself.
Your analysis is over simplistic - most Charlton fans want him out and nobody fully understands his logic. There is more than one strategy however difficult you find that to accept.
To state that if I attend games I support the regime is bollocks(in my opinion).
Anyway we'll never agree on this one.
I am a simplistic person, it helps to think clearly
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lifefiver on itI wish someone had called The Child Support Agency when my dad started taking me.
I am a CARD supporter and follow their direction. I think we that go are right and you are wrong and have let the team and Robbo down.
Happy for you all to make your own decision (I think calling it a sacrifice is pushing it), and look forward to when we can all be one again in just doing such a simple thing as supporting our team.
Some people just don't get it.
Investors do not need to see bums on seats to know what could be.
Wasn't aware I ever said all bad owners are the same. The only point I've made is that RD can live with the losses - a poorer owner would have caved in.
RD will sell up because his experiment has failed - nobody on this site really understands him. The statement from Murray doesn't really prove anything - RD was never likely to run Charlton at a profit whether there was a boycott or not.
RD is a miserable old scote who nobody really understands.
His ownership of football clubs seems to have been an experiment that has failed big time - when he finally goes I hope the club's finances are not completely destroyed.
I hope we never see his like again....
As seems to be more apparent now with more and more supporters, is the viewpoint I have held for a long time is that there is a principle involved and why give money to somebody who is f****** us over.
There is not a right or wrong with the attending or non-attending in my opinion.
My decision to totally boycott was taken after the home game against Coventry last season where I witnessed an assault by four members of the club's security team on a youth who had the temerity to carry and wave a North Korean flag. Shortly before the assault some members of this foursome were seen and photographed in deep conversation with Katrien Meire and Tony Keohane. A club that organises attacks on it's own supporters is unworthy of my support and, I would suggest, anybody's support.
Roland has been reported as saying that the majority of Charlton supporters understand and support what he is doing at Charlton. I think we can take it that he means those who are continuing to attend.
So, until he goes, I won't.
I can understand why people go; it is because they can’t not. That’s ok. But to say the team is different from the owner is plainly wrong and just a way to make going feel right in my view.
If no one went he may have sold years back.
If his team hadn’t got relegated and failed to return to the championship he wouldn’t be selling.
But as you say when he is gone we will all be on the same hymn sheet again.
I can understand that a boycott for some is a step too far; too much disruption to their social life. But to those I say dont hide behind a statement that attending games (and thus supporting the regime) is the correct strategy. Be honest, if only to yourself.
Not attending matches isn't pushing Roland to sell. But attending games and giving more of a vibrancy to The Valley for the rest of the season could lift the club both on and off the field to a brighter future.
To take your argument to it's (il)logical collusion, let's all turn up at The Valley, fill every seat, get the place rocking. That will show RD how much we hate him for what he has done to our club, wont it!
In a sense, yes it would. It would show that at the first sniff of the club leaving his dirty grip, supporters came back. If we suddenly had 15,000 home supporters at the Oxford game he's not going to be thinking 'actually they love me after all, I'll stay a bit longer'.
Calling for those that go now to boycott (which is the suggestion I was responding to) at this late stage is a little nieve IMO, especially as many are season ticket holders and it would make no difference whatsoever.
It also ignores the fact that many think boycotting was wrong, and still do.
Make your own mind up and do what you feel is right, but the suggestion that a few more boycotters would be the ‘final push’ seems to me that someone is trying to suggest that this has been a major factor in his reason to leave?
Personally I put the credit with the actions of the Belgium 20 and CARDS publicity campaign, but mostly with the fact that Rolly is mentally unsound and his plan was doomed to failure from the off.
To state that if I attend games I support the regime is bollocks(in my opinion).
Anyway we'll never agree on this one.