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  • Cafc451
    Cafc451 Posts: 346
    Not good again.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 15,232
    Well. Plenty of reasons to be depressed but that Hutton goal has cheered me up at least. We’re playing much better in this 442 but there’s still areas of concern. Not sure how bad Johnston must be for Robe to be in ahead of her at RB but you’d have to assume very off this showing. Davidson has once again run around a lot and not done much else making me even more surprised that Flandog lost her place to her. EvE looks decent at least. Kenney has the feet but not the gas and much like last season she looks like she’s out of puff inside 15 minutes. She’s also permanently offside. We have to pray that Azzaro can do something one day. Just give the ball to Hutton and pray, that’s a legitimate enough strategy today 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 23,040
    Johnston on for Robe to cheer up Garry
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 24,872
    Kenney offside for about the 14th time 
  • Cafc451
    Cafc451 Posts: 346
    Att 1,886.
  • Arthur_Trudgill
    Arthur_Trudgill Posts: 630
    edited September 19
    Compared with the Liverpool match, they played with a bit more confidence but still too many misplaced passes and lack of fitness. 

    Hutton's goal was excellent though.
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,499
    Cafc451 said:
    Att 1,886.
    Why was this played on a Saturday? This will have hit the attendance. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 23,040
    redman said:
    Cafc451 said:
    Att 1,886.
    Why was this played on a Saturday? This will have hit the attendance. 
    BBC selected it for TV and Sat 12:30 is their slot. Ridiculous that nothing is done to stop mens and women’s teams playing on the same day, let alone the same time 
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 15,232
    Much better today despite the scoreline. There were actually long periods of that second half where we were the better team and threatened more, though Not Millwall always looked like they could score if they really wanted. I’ll need to see it again but I could have sworn that first half tackle from NM was two footed and could have been looked at for a red but the ref didn’t even give a foul. The shape was better but we just don’t have the strikers to play the way we want. Kenney doesn’t have the stamina and no-one has the pace in behind we need. Maybe Boama’s strength was going to be the key but that’s out now. I’d like to see Azzaro start soon as there’s obviously some kind of player there and she needs a chance to show it. 

    Robe was atrocious at RB, I’m sure she’s a competent centre half but I don’t want to see that again. Johnston and then Siber both did better there, though Johnston’s lack of pace was alarming. Lobato at left back was also troubling but when she moved into the centre she was probably our best player aside from Hutton. I’m not sure why Hills seems to not trust her as much as she should. I don’t know why but I feel like Davidson is a Hills favourite and it’s mystifying, it’s like she’s there shadowing a football match, always running but never near the ball. EvE was better and Jodie Hutton and N’Dow showed they can play at WSL level. It’s a real shame Newsham isn’t there as well. 

    What’s very notable is how much Sophie Whitehouse is a non-factor this season. The quality of finishing is completely removing her from the process and the POTY who bailed us out so many times last season just isn’t able to do that now. It’s in no way her fault, it means we need to get much better at closing down shots and angles because we can’t rely on her every week anymore. The positive is that we really weren’t too bad today and we’ve improved every game so far. Play like we did today against a team that doesn’t have ballon d’or and World Cup winners in it and we might see something more. If we could cut back on the injuries as well that would be great. 
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,654
    will we be the first team to get zero points in full season, because at the moment they look incapable of defending and to be honest scoring many goals this season, the later just like last.

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  • FT Assessment. 

    Second half going forwards was probably the best weve looked yet this season.

    Indervidule mistakes really cost us today.

    It is going to be a really tough season, attendance was good considering it was on the same time as the men's team were playing 

  • EpsomAddick
    EpsomAddick Posts: 2,825
    Play Hutton on the left and we'll get the best out of her, as we saw today - not just the goal, but a couple of other good crosses.

    Kenney needs to learn how to stay onside.

    Robe looked like what she is: defensive cover who wouldn't be starting if everyone was available.

    Siber made a couple of really good runs down the right in the second half, but then underhit a backpass that Lobato just managed to clear off the line.

    More broadly, you could tell which team has had millions invested and which hasn't. LCL were much quicker at moving the ball around, their first touch was consistently better, and again their players were physically stronger than ours.

    Boama was there with her leg in a brace and using crutches, so it'll be a very long time before we see her play, and Skeels was also on crutches after she went off. It wouldn't necessarily be transformative, but our bad luck with injuries really doesn't help.

    Brighton away in the Players Cup on Wednesday, then Man City at The Valley on Saturday  :#
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 15,232
    Also, what an absolute prick Not Millwall's manager is. Always up out of his seat moaning his hole off about absolutely everything regardless of what was happening on the pitch. It felt like he had 3 members of support staff who were purely there to calm him down and get him back in his seat when he'd wandered off again to have a little scream and a cry because his team hadn't nailed the 40 yard crossfield pass he wanted. Must be absolutely miserable working for him, their entire bench looked like they were sick of him before the game had even kicked off
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 23,040
    I barely watched the second half in all honesty but it felt like we made way too much of a big deal over the goal. It was great and a historic moment but we can’t afford to be overawed by moments like that. You have to switch on and get back to business quickly
  • EpsomAddick
    EpsomAddick Posts: 2,825
    fenaddick said:
    I barely watched the second half in all honesty but it felt like we made way too much of a big deal over the goal. It was great and a historic moment but we can’t afford to be overawed by moments like that. You have to switch on and get back to business quickly
    Agreed - it was typical that we couldn't even hold out until half-time without conceding again. To have any chance this season, we have to capitalise on the good moments we have, or at the very least not switch off and concede quickly afterwards.
  • panther10
    panther10 Posts: 492
    Heading straight back down at this rate 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 23,040
    panther10 said:
    Heading straight back down at this rate 
    Was always going to be the cas
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 15,232
    fenaddick said:
    I barely watched the second half in all honesty but it felt like we made way too much of a big deal over the goal. It was great and a historic moment but we can’t afford to be overawed by moments like that. You have to switch on and get back to business quickly
    To be fair, it was a huge moment. When that second goal went in it had got pretty gloomy around the stadium. No shots on target in the first two games, referee decisions going against us, horrible injuries and basically already looking like a loss after 15 minutes. There’s been talk about whether or not this team would get a goal in the WSL let alone a point and to see a strike of such incredible quality really did buoy the place. I’d be worried if we did that after every goal but it was a pretty cathartic moment for everyone. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 24,872
    We'll get points this season, the question will be how far away we are come January.

    If we still have a chance then expect a couple of loans from sides higher up the table, players on the fringes who want game time. 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,506
    Another banger from the BBC HYS section on the game:



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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 24,872
    CAFCTrev said:
    Another banger from the BBC HYS section on the game:


    I'm sure the players like Putellas would prefer playing at Oakwood or Princes Park, right? 

    Stupid comment
  • No sign as yet of tickets for the trip to Brighton on 4 October going on sale. Brighton have had home tickets on sale for ages and their website confirms away tickets should be available from Charlton. It looks like we're getting block E1I, right in the far south corner of the East stand. Not the best of views, but it's a day out and the men aren't playing so I assume there will be a few takers.
  • Gillis
    Gillis Posts: 1,127
    sam3110 said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    Another banger from the BBC HYS section on the game:


    I'm sure the players like Putellas would prefer playing at Oakwood or Princes Park, right? 

    Stupid comment
    Barcelona play most of their matches at a 6,000 capacity stadium at their training ground. Their lowest attendance for a league match last season was 2,966, and I think they get the best attendances in the country. Attendances at women's football in Spain aren't great. I'm sure Putellas won't have been too traumatised by her visit to The Valley.
  • Gillis said:
    sam3110 said:
    CAFCTrev said:
    Another banger from the BBC HYS section on the game:


    I'm sure the players like Putellas would prefer playing at Oakwood or Princes Park, right? 

    Stupid comment
    Barcelona play most of their matches at a 6,000 capacity stadium at their training ground. Their lowest attendance for a league match last season was 2,966, and I think they get the best attendances in the country. Attendances at women's football in Spain aren't great. I'm sure Putellas won't have been too traumatised by her visit to The Valley.
    Half of the teams in the Spanish league play at stadiums (basically clubs training grounds) with a capacity of less than 4k, so she will be more than used to tiny crowds.

    The league average for last season was 1,357 and for one game (Alhama v Badalona) the attendance was.........42 (yes FORTY TWO). 
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 8,774
    We were clearly always looking at a season of struggle this year - the investment in the squad has been miles behind the rest of the league.
    But we’ve been hit with some dreadful luck too, with our record signing getting crocked before kicking a ball in anger, our decent looking loan from Not-Millwall getting crocked too, our most impressive performer so far getting a three match ban for a ridiculously harsh red card in the one game we had a chance of getting a result so far and now possibly Keira Skeels might be out for a bit too.

    It was always going to be a tough season, but the start we’ve had has been brutal. I’m inclined to think we’ll get better.
  • InspectorSands
    InspectorSands Posts: 5,276
    edited September 20
    Really interesting interview on the Price of Football podcast last week with LCL's former commercial director about the future of the women's game and how that reflects on the game more broadly. Some praise for the Charlton fan zone and how we've grown crowds too.

    https://youtu.be/glkjbN9MMDE?si=byTXFC8q4KHkg0_K

    (with apologies for the grim stripey scarf behind Kevin Day)
  • fenaddick said:
    I barely watched the second half in all honesty but it felt like we made way too much of a big deal over the goal. It was great and a historic moment but we can’t afford to be overawed by moments like that. You have to switch on and get back to business quickly
    I think you take the good moments when you can - it was a cracking goal and highlighted by WSL social media too. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 23,040
    At least we haven’t had a game this bad yet


  • Spurs look good this season. Would be entertaining if their women are up at the top of the league this season while their men seen to have settled on another relegation battle.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 23,040
    No sign as yet of tickets for the trip to Brighton on 4 October going on sale. Brighton have had home tickets on sale for ages and their website confirms away tickets should be available from Charlton. It looks like we're getting block E1I, right in the far south corner of the East stand. Not the best of views, but it's a day out and the men aren't playing so I assume there will be a few takers.
    On sale now

    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/tickets-sale-now-brighton