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  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,601
    Good to see that THE MIGHTY Plymouth revival last exactly the one game against us. Lost 3-1 at home to Oxford tonight. 
  • Fortune 82nd Minute
    Fortune 82nd Minute Posts: 8,338
    RaplhMilne said:
    Good to see that THE MIGHTY Plymouth revival last exactly the one game against us. Lost 3-1 at home to Oxford tonight. 
    And the mighty Swindon, fresh from a 2-2 draw against us in their last home game, losing 4-1 at home to MK Dons.

    There's no getting away from it - our recent results have been poor. Very poor. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    RaplhMilne said:
    Good to see that THE MIGHTY Plymouth revival last exactly the one game against us. Lost 3-1 at home to Oxford tonight. 
    And the mighty Swindon, fresh from a 2-2 draw against us in their last home game, losing 4-1 at home to MK Dons.

    There's no getting away from it - our recent results have been poor. Very poor. 
    And entirely down to one man's tactics.

    He did use differing tactics in the two games in fairness.
  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,601
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    RaplhMilne said:
    Good to see that THE MIGHTY Plymouth revival last exactly the one game against us. Lost 3-1 at home to Oxford tonight. 
    And the mighty Swindon, fresh from a 2-2 draw against us in their last home game, losing 4-1 at home to MK Dons.

    There's no getting away from it - our recent results have been poor. Very poor. 
    An of course since our defeat to Burton they have stormed up the league with 3 draws and 4 defeats in their next 7 games. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,789
    RaplhMilne said:
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    RaplhMilne said:
    Good to see that THE MIGHTY Plymouth revival last exactly the one game against us. Lost 3-1 at home to Oxford tonight. 
    And the mighty Swindon, fresh from a 2-2 draw against us in their last home game, losing 4-1 at home to MK Dons.

    There's no getting away from it - our recent results have been poor. Very poor. 
    An of course since our defeat to Burton they have stormed up the league with 3 draws and 4 defeats in their next 7 games. 
    It's worse than that as Burton have won one game from the last 22 they have played. That makes us somewhat "unique"! 
  • mid_life_crisis
    mid_life_crisis Posts: 3,263
    Addick Addict said:
    RaplhMilne said:
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    RaplhMilne said:
    Good to see that THE MIGHTY Plymouth revival last exactly the one game against us. Lost 3-1 at home to Oxford tonight. 
    And the mighty Swindon, fresh from a 2-2 draw against us in their last home game, losing 4-1 at home to MK Dons.

    There's no getting away from it - our recent results have been poor. Very poor. 
    An of course since our defeat to Burton they have stormed up the league with 3 draws and 4 defeats in their next 7 games. 
    It's worse than that as Burton have won one game from the last 22 they have played. That makes us somewhat "unique"! 
    That is a sobering stat !
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,789
    mid_life_crisis said:
    Addick Addict said:
    RaplhMilne said:
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    RaplhMilne said:
    Good to see that THE MIGHTY Plymouth revival last exactly the one game against us. Lost 3-1 at home to Oxford tonight. 
    And the mighty Swindon, fresh from a 2-2 draw against us in their last home game, losing 4-1 at home to MK Dons.

    There's no getting away from it - our recent results have been poor. Very poor. 
    An of course since our defeat to Burton they have stormed up the league with 3 draws and 4 defeats in their next 7 games. 
    It's worse than that as Burton have won one game from the last 22 they have played. That makes us somewhat "unique"! 
    That is a sobering stat !
    It is indeed but proof, if anyone needed it, what a fantastic job Nigel Clough did in his five years at the Club including three in the Championship on a tiny budget and capacity crowd of under 7,000
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,278
    The results against teams nearer the bottom are really poor but also completely baffling.

    We all know we can turn up against Hull on Saturday and put in a good performance. Just what happens when we play teams we really should be getting 3 points against is strange.

    You also have to remember that we literally gifted 2 of Burton’s goals to them and were defensively very poor in the other 2.

    I am sure it’ll improve as the season goes on.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    The results against dross teams hurts more now than it did at the time. 

    Our defence has been woeful and no reason we should not have played Mingi or Barker. In no game did our CB pairings help with their experience. 

    Pearcy isn't playing much like a Warrior or experienced club captain for me either.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,985
    We’re just not very good. But we’re not now owned by a person who would happily see us die.
    So for now I’ll happily take that. 
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  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,625
    mid_life_crisis said:
    Addick Addict said:
    RaplhMilne said:
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    RaplhMilne said:
    Good to see that THE MIGHTY Plymouth revival last exactly the one game against us. Lost 3-1 at home to Oxford tonight. 
    And the mighty Swindon, fresh from a 2-2 draw against us in their last home game, losing 4-1 at home to MK Dons.

    There's no getting away from it - our recent results have been poor. Very poor. 
    An of course since our defeat to Burton they have stormed up the league with 3 draws and 4 defeats in their next 7 games. 
    It's worse than that as Burton have won one game from the last 22 they have played. That makes us somewhat "unique"! 
    That is a sobering stat !
    Or it will drive you to drink.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,012
    Sage said:
    The results against teams nearer the bottom are really poor but also completely baffling.

    We all know we can turn up against Hull on Saturday and put in a good performance. Just what happens when we play teams we really should be getting 3 points against is strange.

    You also have to remember that we literally gifted 2 of Burton’s goals to them and were defensively very poor in the other 2.

    I am sure it’ll improve as the season goes on.
    It'll only improve if we get Famewo or Inniss back or we sign a new centre back in January.

    If we continue with Gunter/Pratley then we'll struggle to get promoted and i'm sure Bowyer/Gallen know this.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    The performances by Burton, Shrewsbury, Swindon and Plymouth against us would indicate that their players either upped their game against one of the 'top' sides or their players aren't putting the effort in that they are capable of for every game.

    All of those teams put in a decent performance against us.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,675
    Addickted said:
    The performances by Burton, Shrewsbury, Swindon and Plymouth against us would indicate that their players either upped their game against one of the 'top' sides or their players aren't putting the effort in that they are capable of for every game.

    All of those teams put in a decent performance against us.
    Most teams in the top 6 would set their side up to attack the lower sides.
    We set up to primarily defend inviting there teams to come at us
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,812
    If Famewo and Inniss had remained fit, christ our season could be looking a whole lot different.....all if's but's and maybe's I know 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,853
    Addickted said:
    The performances by Burton, Shrewsbury, Swindon and Plymouth against us would indicate that their players either upped their game against one of the 'top' sides or their players aren't putting the effort in that they are capable of for every game.

    All of those teams put in a decent performance against us.
    the one constant there is Charlton and it indicates our players up their games against top sides or that our players are incapable of putting in the required effort 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Elthamaddick said:
    If Famewo and Inniss had remained fit, christ our season could be looking a whole lot different.....all if's but's and maybe's I know 
    If Taylor didn't fly/swim out to Monserrat playing the "Big International I am" too....;)
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,353
    edited December 2020
    Hardly earth shattering news that Charlton can not be relied upon to actually do the expected.  It's been happening for decades.  Not sure any rational analysis will help either, it seems to be something that runs through the core of this football club regardless of encumbants, owner, management or players.

    Who do we regularly beat though, regardless of squad or league status?  I can only really think of Pompey off the top of my head in recent times, Sunderland maybe? We are not ruthless enough, too nice in a lot of circumstances, AND where we find ourselves today, a bigger scalp in this league. Combined with our usual generosity and the head start we always tend to give everyone, no surprises here.


  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    edited December 2020
    Addickted said:
    The performances by Burton, Shrewsbury, Swindon and Plymouth against us would indicate that their players either upped their game against one of the 'top' sides or their players aren't putting the effort in that they are capable of for every game.

    All of those teams put in a decent performance against us.
    Wouldnt include Shrewsbury in that list of teams who upped their game against us seeing they got a point against us and then went on to beat Doncaster | Lincoln | Hull

    In fact they've not lost under Cotterill yet
  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,601
    edited December 2020
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Addickted said:
    The performances by Burton, Shrewsbury, Swindon and Plymouth against us would indicate that their players either upped their game against one of the 'top' sides or their players aren't putting the effort in that they are capable of for every game.

    All of those teams put in a decent performance against us.
    Wouldnt include Shrewsbury in that list of teams who upped their game against us seeing they got a point against us and then went on to beat Doncaster | Lincoln | Hull

    In fact they've not lost under Cotterill yet
    That’s true, but they were a poor side when they played us, And we should of won. Their improvement post our draw with them doesn’t actually make our result any better, as some on here have stated, and you are alluding to. Another good result last night, I can see Shrewsbury pushing top 6 soon. An build on a solid defence, rather than free scoring attack. 
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Where have Crewe come from to be only two points off the Play-Offs???
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    Looking at out last 10 results

    0-2
    2-2
    2-2
    5-2
    1-1
    0-1
    2-0
    2-4
    1-1
    3-2

    3 wins, 4 draws, 3 defeats
    18 goals scored and 17 goals conceded in 10 games

    That's mid table mediocrity form
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,220
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Where have Crewe come from to be only two points off the Play-Offs???
    4 wins and 2 draws in last 6 league games. Just shows what a mini run can do in this league. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    stoneroses19 said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Where have Crewe come from to be only two points off the Play-Offs???
    4 wins and 2 draws in last 6 league games. Just shows what a mini run can do in this league. 
    Shows that even with this bad run of form, we just need a bit of luck to turn it round
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,220
    ForeverAddickted said:
    stoneroses19 said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Where have Crewe come from to be only two points off the Play-Offs???
    4 wins and 2 draws in last 6 league games. Just shows what a mini run can do in this league. 
    Shows that even with this bad run of form, we just need a bit of luck to turn it round
    Agreed. We best hide our optimism in this thread 😉
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    ForeverAddickted said:
    stoneroses19 said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Where have Crewe come from to be only two points off the Play-Offs???
    4 wins and 2 draws in last 6 league games. Just shows what a mini run can do in this league. 
    Shows that even with this bad run of form, we just need a bit of luck to turn it round
    Ah, so it's down to luck.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    Well it could be argued that we have had some luck in Pratley and Watson being unavailable for Friday! Not digging out the players, I rate them both but they are not being used properly.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Covered End said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    stoneroses19 said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Where have Crewe come from to be only two points off the Play-Offs???
    4 wins and 2 draws in last 6 league games. Just shows what a mini run can do in this league. 
    Shows that even with this bad run of form, we just need a bit of luck to turn it round
    Ah, so it's down to luck.
    Of course, luck always plays small part in Sport - First goal, that deflection could have gone anywhere today for example

    I'm not blaming our bad run on just being bad luck, its individual mistakes that are costing us goals

    But sometimes you just need the ball to fall your way, for the opposition to have an offday perhaps, get one win together and you get a small bit of confidence back to cling to
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Well it could be argued that we have had some luck in Pratley and Watson being unavailable for Friday! Not digging out the players, I rate them both but they are not being used properly.
    We'll have to wait and see wont we if their absense is a hinderance or a help...
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    The better you play the luckier you get.

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