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Come in No. 20?

Leuth
Leuth Posts: 23,402
in General Charlton
It's time we had this discussion

(To be bumped every time he does something half-decent over the next 3 years)
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  • bazjonster
    bazjonster Posts: 2,875
    True. He looked totally spent today. Must be room for another coach on that bench!
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,501
    Said it before and I’ll say it again, to win this league you need either pacey attacking full back with the aim of outscoring your opponents ( See Nathan Byrne for Wigan, Wiggins under Powell etc)

    Or you need a solid back 4 almost playing 4 CB’s

    Old Solly used to be the perfect blend of both. Now he is neither , and therefore a passenger in our side.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,027
    Still dont think that Konsa or Dijksteel are the answer out there.

    Thats the overall issue - If you replace him... Who do you bring in as Konsa is the first choice CB now I reckon
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,486
    I almost created a "We need to talk about Solly" thread a couple weeks ago.

    Something has looked really off since he came back from injury a few weeks ago. Everyone goes through bad patches of form. He's making very un-Solly like mistakes.

    But more than that, the way he moves looks creaky, robotic, and uncomfortable. Maybe it's just bad form and carrying a knock or two. Or maybe the fact that I know he has bad knees is impacting what I see. But something looks off and it's not just form.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,674
    To be fair, most of the team looked clapped out and outclassed today.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,486
    edited February 2018
    Mendonca In Asdas said:

    To be fair, most of the team looked clapped out and outclassed today.

    Agreed, and I thought Marshall and Pearce were all easily worse. It's more the accumulation of the last few games. The best he's done is that last weekend he looked alright-ish, though some of that was because Wigan didn't threaten down his side much.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,402
    Aribo? Thought he was our bright spot! I'd need to watch the game again, mind, and I have no wish to.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,486
    edited February 2018
    Leuth said:

    Aribo? Thought he was our bright spot! I'd need to watch the game again, mind, and I have no wish to.

    Nah I think you're right I think it's harsh on him and I changed it. He disappeared for large stretches though, and I didn't think he dropped off to look for the ball enough.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,402
    You should replace him with Kaikai. Abject doesn't even begin to cover it
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,837
    Aribo was excellent today. Feeding off scraps, he rarely gives it away; certainly holds is up better than Josh the Carthorse.

    I fear Solly has been getting worse and worse; sad to see.

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  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,486
    Leuth said:

    You should replace him with Kaikai. Abject doesn't even begin to cover it

    I didn't think he was good, but I didn't think he was as bad as some have made out (just my opinion) and there's already that feeling of scapegoatism with him so I'll leave it at Pearce and Marshall.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,027
    Ultimately Solly will be back to his best I reckon (Might not be this season)... He's far too young to be written off still.

    Is a player to have bounced back time and again and may have been forced into retirement a few years ago, so reckon he'll be back
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,402
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Ultimately Solly will be back to his best I reckon (Might not be this season)... He's far too young to be written off still.

    Is a player to have bounced back time and again and may have been forced into retirement a few years ago, so reckon he'll be back

    This isn't a matter of form, though. A chronic knee condition is a one-way ticket I'm afraid. And Solly is not quite Ledley King
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,088
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Still dont think that Konsa or Dijksteel are the answer out there.

    Thats the overall issue - If you replace him... Who do you bring in as Konsa is the first choice CB now I reckon

    Every time I've seen Dijksteel he's done a good job, I'd definitely give him an opportunity at right back and let Solly have a break for a while.

    I absolutely love Solly, he'll undoubtedly go down in the Charlton hall of fame, but he really seems to have declined this season and I definitely think a rest would do him well, possibly the captaincy weighs heavily on him too as I wouldn't call him a natural leader.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,402
    (although I stress that he's been a great servant and a fine fellow)
  • Scratchingvalleycat
    Scratchingvalleycat Posts: 759
    Last weekend at MK was the first time I had seen the team this season. Iwas amazed at the poor fitness levels of most of the team that I remembered from last season. Solly looked to be carrying to much weight as did Bauer, but none oftem looked fit. They looked knackered after 70 minutes and you can see why the late goals are conceded. KR is ultimately responsible for this....... solly should still have several years left in him but unless he gets fit and loses weight he wontget his speed back and all the timing in the world will no,t letyou make the tackle from six yeards behind!
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,321
    Solly is the least of our problems.
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,497
    Solly used to be my favourite player but today he was shocking - barely made a tackle and offered little else. Sad to see..
  • AdTheAddicK
    AdTheAddicK Posts: 3,381
    So sad to see. Struggling out there. Also wouldn't say he is captain material, Pearce fits the role better Imo.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,743
    Leuth said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    Ultimately Solly will be back to his best I reckon (Might not be this season)... He's far too young to be written off still.

    Is a player to have bounced back time and again and may have been forced into retirement a few years ago, so reckon he'll be back

    This isn't a matter of form, though. A chronic knee condition is a one-way ticket I'm afraid. And Solly is not quite Ledley King
    Spot on

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,027
    Leuth said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    Ultimately Solly will be back to his best I reckon (Might not be this season)... He's far too young to be written off still.

    Is a player to have bounced back time and again and may have been forced into retirement a few years ago, so reckon he'll be back

    This isn't a matter of form, though. A chronic knee condition is a one-way ticket I'm afraid. And Solly is not quite Ledley King
    Yet not once have we seen him struggling in games due to his knees... Its more his decision making and timings that he needs to work upon - He's still one of the better crossers of the ball at the club.

    And am sorry but the Ledley King comparison is just strange, of course he's not like him... King played at the top level whilst Solly just has to deal with players at his level, which is probably League One now
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,031
    Solly is a shadow of the player he used to be. Apart from anything else, he looks so lethargic now, as if he's pacing himself, there's no spark with him. After 5 minutes he'll slowly amble over to take a throw in, as if we were in added time defending a 1-0 lead.

    Sadly I don't think this a temporary loss of form, he's been playing at a poor level for a long time now.
  • East_Stand_Loopy
    East_Stand_Loopy Posts: 2,205
    As my mate said at half time, "Solly is playing on memory now..."
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,460
    3-4-3 til the end of the season for me.

    Konsa RCB
    Pearce CB
    Bauer LCB

    Fosu LM
    Kashi CDM
    Aribo CAM
    Marshall RM

    LF Ajose
    CF Magennis
    RF Reeco

    purposely put in 3 different formats name pos R -> L, name pos L->R and pos L->R name

    just so Karl might hopefully see one of them.
  • AdTheAddicK
    AdTheAddicK Posts: 3,381
    edited February 2018
    It's a shame really, as Solly is Charlton, and I love him to bits, hurts seeing all the negativity around him, however it is accurate
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,166
    A real shame if true, and judging by the the player marks thread it is. Still can't believe Carl Jenkinson played in the Premier League and Solly didn't. Quality player at his peak.
  • Shrew
    Shrew Posts: 5,752
    Its very frustrating watching almost every throw in on the right, taken by Solly, no-one moving for the ball, eventually someone coming in and passing back to Solly who then loses it. Isn't this something that should be worked on week in week out ?
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,196
    How old is he now? 27-28? he should be at his peak. Quite clearly physically he is not. Wasn't it the case that he only didn't sign for West Ham because he failed a medical? I can't remember where I heard it but someone told me he has no cartliage left after all the ops. I worry that it's catching up with him now, and I hope he isn't storing up problems for himself in later years by continuing to play now. I hate that this thread exists, but I am afraid it has every reason to exist.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,068
    But. He's better than John Terry.
  • Nug
    Nug Posts: 4,627
    Yep, club's on it's arse in every single aspect so let's write off one of our own.

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