I’m in an actual state of disbelief. I called that before the first half had even ended.
Absolute shout. Foles is magic though. Bears should have kept driving at end they settled for a 40+ field goal with a dodgy kicker
He’s just beat us but I love Foles, the guy needs to get out of Philly next season regardless of what happens.
Cody Parkey is finished and that’s all I’m happy about, they guy has costs us so many points and gets paid to do so. No sympathy at all.
Foles will go where Foles wants to go. He is very comfortable in Philly. He hasn't had much success outside of Philly/Andy Reid. He won't be there next year because of money and the fact that the Eagles can't afford him but I would guess theres at least a 30% chance he retires rather than have to play somewhere else, though he will get some really good offers.
0% chance he retires, he's under 30 and will command a big salary somewhere next season
Can he walk into a starting spot do you think? Would your lot take him, even?
If Case Keenum can why not!!! I'll think Dalton will be our starter next season we have too many other needs to address first
Cody Parkey should be nowhere near the fucking nfl. Absolute disgrace of a footballer.
As has been pointed out earlier the shot was blocked. He also scored 9 of the Bears 15 points. It wouldn't have come down to him if the rest of the team do their job. Also. Go Birds.
Genuine question from a relative novice. Wouldn’t it be fair to criticise the kicker even if their kick was (partially) blocked? Surely one of the prerequisites for a successful kick is that you get enough elevation so that the onrushing defence can’t block it in the first place?
I’m in an actual state of disbelief. I called that before the first half had even ended.
Absolute shout. Foles is magic though. Bears should have kept driving at end they settled for a 40+ field goal with a dodgy kicker
He’s just beat us but I love Foles, the guy needs to get out of Philly next season regardless of what happens.
Cody Parkey is finished and that’s all I’m happy about, they guy has costs us so many points and gets paid to do so. No sympathy at all.
Foles will go where Foles wants to go. He is very comfortable in Philly. He hasn't had much success outside of Philly/Andy Reid. He won't be there next year because of money and the fact that the Eagles can't afford him but I would guess theres at least a 30% chance he retires rather than have to play somewhere else, though he will get some really good offers.
0% chance he retires, he's under 30 and will command a big salary somewhere next season
He has talked about retiring in the past. I don't think the money is all that important to him, though he will get paid well next year if he takes a job. He could have gone to the Browns this year but when the Eagles told him there was an offer he said he'd prefer to stay as the backup in Philly.
Cody Parkey should be nowhere near the fucking nfl. Absolute disgrace of a footballer.
As has been pointed out earlier the shot was blocked. He also scored 9 of the Bears 15 points. It wouldn't have come down to him if the rest of the team do their job. Also. Go Birds.
Genuine question from a relative novice. Wouldn’t it be fair to criticise the kicker even if their kick was (partially) blocked? Surely one of the prerequisites for a successful kick is that you get enough elevation so that the onrushing defence can’t block it in the first place?
There are several factors involved:
- Blocking team not doing their job properly - thus allowing someone to get a fingertip on it or otherwise block entirely.
- Bad snap (the guy who hikes the ball to start the play, if that needs any explaining). This could lead to the holder of the ball being compromised in getting a good angle or position, which massively affects elevation and direction, because pigskins are pretty volatile projectiles.
- Bad hold - the holder getting a good enough snap, but for his own reasons not getting the ball down properly for the kicker.
- Bad kick - self-explanatory. Elevation is something that teams scout for, and it's partly on coaching staff to rectify someone's technique if they angle it low.
I'm sure you've noticed just how the kick is cadenced and choreographed - same technique, literally every time, pretty much. If one tiny element goes wrong, it can have a significantly amplified effect.
Cody Parkey should be nowhere near the fucking nfl. Absolute disgrace of a footballer.
As has been pointed out earlier the shot was blocked. He also scored 9 of the Bears 15 points. It wouldn't have come down to him if the rest of the team do their job. Also. Go Birds.
Genuine question from a relative novice. Wouldn’t it be fair to criticise the kicker even if their kick was (partially) blocked? Surely one of the prerequisites for a successful kick is that you get enough elevation so that the onrushing defence can’t block it in the first place?
There are several factors involved:
- Blocking team not doing their job properly - thus allowing someone to get a fingertip on it or otherwise block entirely.
- Bad snap (the guy who hikes the ball to start the play, if that needs any explaining). This could lead to the holder of the ball being compromised in getting a good angle or position, which massively affects elevation and direction, because pigskins are pretty volatile projectiles.
- Bad hold - the holder getting a good enough snap, but for his own reasons not getting the ball down properly for the kicker.
- Bad kick - self-explanatory. Elevation is something that teams scout for, and it's partly on coaching staff to rectify someone's technique if they angle it low.
I'm sure you've noticed just how the kick is cadenced and choreographed - same technique, literally every time, pretty much. If one tiny element goes wrong, it can have a significantly amplified effect.
Hope that helps.
Awesome, cheers.
You just knew after he made the kick before the Eagles called a time out that he wouldn’t make it second time round.
I’m in an actual state of disbelief. I called that before the first half had even ended.
Absolute shout. Foles is magic though. Bears should have kept driving at end they settled for a 40+ field goal with a dodgy kicker
He’s just beat us but I love Foles, the guy needs to get out of Philly next season regardless of what happens.
Cody Parkey is finished and that’s all I’m happy about, they guy has costs us so many points and gets paid to do so. No sympathy at all.
Foles will go where Foles wants to go. He is very comfortable in Philly. He hasn't had much success outside of Philly/Andy Reid. He won't be there next year because of money and the fact that the Eagles can't afford him but I would guess theres at least a 30% chance he retires rather than have to play somewhere else, though he will get some really good offers.
0% chance he retires, he's under 30 and will command a big salary somewhere next season
Can he walk into a starting spot do you think? Would your lot take him, even?
He'll have at least 3 or 4 good offers. Even the Patriots might be in for him if Brady decides to retire.
Cody Parkey should be nowhere near the fucking nfl. Absolute disgrace of a footballer.
As has been pointed out earlier the shot was blocked. He also scored 9 of the Bears 15 points. It wouldn't have come down to him if the rest of the team do their job. Also. Go Birds.
Genuine question from a relative novice. Wouldn’t it be fair to criticise the kicker even if their kick was (partially) blocked? Surely one of the prerequisites for a successful kick is that you get enough elevation so that the onrushing defence can’t block it in the first place?
There are several factors involved:
- Blocking team not doing their job properly - thus allowing someone to get a fingertip on it or otherwise block entirely.
- Bad snap (the guy who hikes the ball to start the play, if that needs any explaining). This could lead to the holder of the ball being compromised in getting a good angle or position, which massively affects elevation and direction, because pigskins are pretty volatile projectiles.
- Bad hold - the holder getting a good enough snap, but for his own reasons not getting the ball down properly for the kicker.
- Bad kick - self-explanatory. Elevation is something that teams scout for, and it's partly on coaching staff to rectify someone's technique if they angle it low.
I'm sure you've noticed just how the kick is cadenced and choreographed - same technique, literally every time, pretty much. If one tiny element goes wrong, it can have a significantly amplified effect.
Hope that helps.
Awesome, cheers.
You just knew after he made the kick before the Eagles called a time out that he wouldn’t make it second time round.
"Icing the kicker" - statistically ineffective as far as I'm aware, but worked last night and coaches keep doing it. A good banter-play if nothing else.
Cody Parkey should be nowhere near the fucking nfl. Absolute disgrace of a footballer.
As has been pointed out earlier the shot was blocked. He also scored 9 of the Bears 15 points. It wouldn't have come down to him if the rest of the team do their job. Also. Go Birds.
Genuine question from a relative novice. Wouldn’t it be fair to criticise the kicker even if their kick was (partially) blocked? Surely one of the prerequisites for a successful kick is that you get enough elevation so that the onrushing defence can’t block it in the first place?
There are several factors involved:
- Blocking team not doing their job properly - thus allowing someone to get a fingertip on it or otherwise block entirely.
- Bad snap (the guy who hikes the ball to start the play, if that needs any explaining). This could lead to the holder of the ball being compromised in getting a good angle or position, which massively affects elevation and direction, because pigskins are pretty volatile projectiles.
- Bad hold - the holder getting a good enough snap, but for his own reasons not getting the ball down properly for the kicker.
- Bad kick - self-explanatory. Elevation is something that teams scout for, and it's partly on coaching staff to rectify someone's technique if they angle it low.
I'm sure you've noticed just how the kick is cadenced and choreographed - same technique, literally every time, pretty much. If one tiny element goes wrong, it can have a significantly amplified effect.
Hope that helps.
Awesome, cheers.
You just knew after he made the kick before the Eagles called a time out that he wouldn’t make it second time round.
"Icing the kicker" - statistically ineffective as far as I'm aware, but worked last night and coaches keep doing it. A good banter-play if nothing else.
They had the timeout and didn't have much use for it otherwise. It may be statisically negligible but it didn't hurt to try it on a player who had already missed a number of kicks this year.The only possibly downside was if he missed the first and made the second.
finished watching the game before i went to work this morning. nice result for the eagles. I had them down for a win but am not confident at all about next week. Will have to see if my lucky green eagles t-shirt continues to work its magic (unbeaten when I wear it at some point on game day).
Cody Parkey should be nowhere near the fucking nfl. Absolute disgrace of a footballer.
As has been pointed out earlier the shot was blocked. He also scored 9 of the Bears 15 points. It wouldn't have come down to him if the rest of the team do their job. Also. Go Birds.
You seem to have missed the point of the post. Parkey has cost the Bears a ridiculous amount of points, and even 3 actual games this season from very malleable kicks.
Any kicker in the NFL should be able to male a 43 yard field goal in good conditions comfortably. Sure, the D did well to even get the slightest of touches, but Parkey is just a liability and should never play Pro Football again.
Jackson can't pass as well as most QB's. I said a few weeks back he to me is a poor man's Michael Vick. That's why the o coordinator is continuing to run the ball. You would be better off with Flacco in there.
Look what happened when they finally let him throw in the 4th quarter. Over 160 yards and Two TDS - in one quarter. He can throw, It's lazy analysis to say he can't - watch his college tape. What he does struggle with his throwing to sidelines and obviously the fumbling has been an issue but the O-line struggles to pass protect (see Flacco the last three years) - it's built for the run. They needed to trust Jackson earlier on in the passing game. May have been a different outcome then.
Credit to the Chargers though and especially Melvin Ingram. What a game he had.
Cody Parkey should be nowhere near the fucking nfl. Absolute disgrace of a footballer.
As has been pointed out earlier the shot was blocked. He also scored 9 of the Bears 15 points. It wouldn't have come down to him if the rest of the team do their job. Also. Go Birds.
You seem to have missed the point of the post. Parkey has cost the Bears a ridiculous amount of points, and even 3 actual games this season from very malleable kicks.
Any kicker in the NFL should be able to male a 43 yard field goal in good conditions comfortably. Sure, the D did well to even get the slightest of touches, but Parkey is just a liability and should never play Pro Football again.
I would argue it is you who have missed my point. The guy has been getting death threats and your comment is unfair. As for 43 yards being a near guarantee, I don't know how many games you have seen this year but that distance has been tricky for many kickers.
There were 294 attempts between 40 and 49 yards in the 2018 regular season. 224 were made. That is a 76.2% success rate. Far from a guarantee. Unfortunately I don't have the ability to check the conditions for those misses but I recall a Browns miss in the Superdome which I've just looked up at that was from 41 yards so these misses do happen even in perfect conditions, especially when the game is on the line. Your buddy Parkey made all his kicks from shorter distances in this game, and he made the one before the miss (which was tipped and not a pure miss).
He is not the reason the Bears lost this game, not alone at least. If hes not good enough then your ire should be pointed at the Bears coaching and management and not Parkey who hit 3 of his 4 kicks and without whom the Bears would have been in much more difficulty.
There weren't any rookie QBs in the playoffs, he's a running back who chucks it a dozen times a game...
Seriously though, he's working without a particularly good O-line and a pretty terrible bunch of receivers. If they improve those positions and Ravens trust him more they'll be in pretty great shape for next season.
There weren't any rookie QBs in the playoffs, he's a running back who chucks it a dozen times a game...
Seriously though, he's working without a particularly good O-line and a pretty terrible bunch of receivers. If they improve those positions and Ravens trust him more they'll be in pretty great shape for next season.
Yep, although they've underused John Brown who had a great start to the year. He's got some good tight ends around him, especially Mark Andrews, but we need an upgrade on Crabtree (despite yesterday) and O-line - although I'd say Ronnie Stanley, number one pick three years ago, at LT is the Ravens' best offensive player.
Cody Parkey should be nowhere near the fucking nfl. Absolute disgrace of a footballer.
As has been pointed out earlier the shot was blocked. He also scored 9 of the Bears 15 points. It wouldn't have come down to him if the rest of the team do their job. Also. Go Birds.
You seem to have missed the point of the post. Parkey has cost the Bears a ridiculous amount of points, and even 3 actual games this season from very malleable kicks.
Any kicker in the NFL should be able to male a 43 yard field goal in good conditions comfortably. Sure, the D did well to even get the slightest of touches, but Parkey is just a liability and should never play Pro Football again.
I would argue it is you who have missed my point. The guy has been getting death threats and your comment is unfair. As for 43 yards being a near guarantee, I don't know how many games you have seen this year but that distance has been tricky for many kickers.
There were 294 attempts between 40 and 49 yards in the 2018 regular season. 224 were made. That is a 76.2% success rate. Far from a guarantee. Unfortunately I don't have the ability to check the conditions for those misses but I recall a Browns miss in the Superdome which I've just looked up at that was from 41 yards so these misses do happen even in perfect conditions, especially when the game is on the line. Your buddy Parkey made all his kicks from shorter distances in this game, and he made the one before the miss (which was tipped and not a pure miss).
He is not the reason the Bears lost this game, not alone at least. If hes not good enough then your ire should be pointed at the Bears coaching and management and not Parkey who hit 3 of his 4 kicks and without whom the Bears would have been in much more difficulty.
Totally agree, the kicker position has been brutal this season - even Tucker missed last week I think and he's basically the Raven's substitute for an offence. Parkey had a very good completion rate at the Dolphins; he's had some awful games this year (particularly with the magnetic posts at Soldier Field) but one tipped kick onto the post and bar, no matter the importance of the kick, doesn't change much really.
It's similar to everyone jumping on Southgate in '96... except if he was like the dedicated penalty taker, I dunno, doesn't quite work... imagine it was Shearer or something. Anyway, my point is that if you need to hit a 40+ field goal with seconds left, the rest of the team hasn't done it's job to win the game either (in Bear's case, it was down to the offence).
Jackson for me could potentially become a very effective QB in the league but that will be based his versatility and a good supporting cast, not his arm. Still think an injury or 2 will prevent him having a long sustainable career. I suspect his path will follow someone like RGIII, hope I am wrong because I enjoy watching him play
Jackson can't pass as well as most QB's. I said a few weeks back he to me is a poor man's Michael Vick. That's why the o coordinator is continuing to run the ball. You would be better off with Flacco in there.
Look what happened when they finally let him throw in the 4th quarter. Over 160 yards and Two TDS - in one quarter. He can throw, It's lazy analysis to say he can't - watch his college tape. What he does struggle with his throwing to sidelines and obviously the fumbling has been an issue but the O-line struggles to pass protect (see Flacco the last three years) - it's built for the run. They needed to trust Jackson earlier on in the passing game. May have been a different outcome then.
Credit to the Chargers though and especially Melvin Ingram. What a game he had.
The yards and touchdowns came against the chargers playing prevent defence and not there usual defence. Jackson couldn't move the ball against the normal defence. I have watched his tape prior to the draft. I feel and still do he is a poor mans Michael Vick. Lacks accuracy and panics in the pocket.
Very different players and both are/will be crucial to their teams and the AFC North is going to be great viewing over the next few years, Jackson turned the Ravens around from another season destined to be 8-8 and was 6-1 as a starter in the regular season and but for a Mahomes Miracle would have been 7-0. I watch the Ravens every week and think some of the lazy stuff coming out about his passing is ill informed. No slant on Mayfield - I don think Jackson is better than him at the moment. Mayfield is pretty special.
Jackson can't pass as well as most QB's. I said a few weeks back he to me is a poor man's Michael Vick. That's why the o coordinator is continuing to run the ball. You would be better off with Flacco in there.
Look what happened when they finally let him throw in the 4th quarter. Over 160 yards and Two TDS - in one quarter. He can throw, It's lazy analysis to say he can't - watch his college tape. What he does struggle with his throwing to sidelines and obviously the fumbling has been an issue but the O-line struggles to pass protect (see Flacco the last three years) - it's built for the run. They needed to trust Jackson earlier on in the passing game. May have been a different outcome then.
Credit to the Chargers though and especially Melvin Ingram. What a game he had.
The yards and touchdowns came against the chargers playing prevent defence and not there usual defence. Jackson couldn't move the ball against the normal defence. I have watched his tape prior to the draft. I feel and still do he is a poor mans Michael Vick. Lacks accuracy and panics in the pocket.
Cody Parkey should be nowhere near the fucking nfl. Absolute disgrace of a footballer.
As has been pointed out earlier the shot was blocked. He also scored 9 of the Bears 15 points. It wouldn't have come down to him if the rest of the team do their job. Also. Go Birds.
You seem to have missed the point of the post. Parkey has cost the Bears a ridiculous amount of points, and even 3 actual games this season from very malleable kicks.
Any kicker in the NFL should be able to male a 43 yard field goal in good conditions comfortably. Sure, the D did well to even get the slightest of touches, but Parkey is just a liability and should never play Pro Football again.
I would argue it is you who have missed my point. The guy has been getting death threats and your comment is unfair. As for 43 yards being a near guarantee, I don't know how many games you have seen this year but that distance has been tricky for many kickers.
There were 294 attempts between 40 and 49 yards in the 2018 regular season. 224 were made. That is a 76.2% success rate. Far from a guarantee. Unfortunately I don't have the ability to check the conditions for those misses but I recall a Browns miss in the Superdome which I've just looked up at that was from 41 yards so these misses do happen even in perfect conditions, especially when the game is on the line. Your buddy Parkey made all his kicks from shorter distances in this game, and he made the one before the miss (which was tipped and not a pure miss).
He is not the reason the Bears lost this game, not alone at least. If hes not good enough then your ire should be pointed at the Bears coaching and management and not Parkey who hit 3 of his 4 kicks and without whom the Bears would have been in much more difficulty.
I’d like to make it clear that I find any of those wishing and death on Parkey vile. My issues aren’t with Parkey as a person, it is more to do with the fact that statistically he is not good enough for the nfl.
It may seem to you like this is a knee jerk reaction, much like all those who jumped on Nicky Baileys back when he missed the penalty vs Swindon, however this is something myself and Bears fans have been arguing all season. Parkey isn’t good enough.
A kicker is a difficult job, I’m not arguing that, but not one that should be ultimately costing you 3 losses in a season.
Anyway, I’m defering to the Chiefs now, all aboard the Mahomes hype train.
Cody Parkey should be nowhere near the fucking nfl. Absolute disgrace of a footballer.
As has been pointed out earlier the shot was blocked. He also scored 9 of the Bears 15 points. It wouldn't have come down to him if the rest of the team do their job. Also. Go Birds.
You seem to have missed the point of the post. Parkey has cost the Bears a ridiculous amount of points, and even 3 actual games this season from very malleable kicks.
Any kicker in the NFL should be able to male a 43 yard field goal in good conditions comfortably. Sure, the D did well to even get the slightest of touches, but Parkey is just a liability and should never play Pro Football again.
I would argue it is you who have missed my point. The guy has been getting death threats and your comment is unfair. As for 43 yards being a near guarantee, I don't know how many games you have seen this year but that distance has been tricky for many kickers.
There were 294 attempts between 40 and 49 yards in the 2018 regular season. 224 were made. That is a 76.2% success rate. Far from a guarantee. Unfortunately I don't have the ability to check the conditions for those misses but I recall a Browns miss in the Superdome which I've just looked up at that was from 41 yards so these misses do happen even in perfect conditions, especially when the game is on the line. Your buddy Parkey made all his kicks from shorter distances in this game, and he made the one before the miss (which was tipped and not a pure miss).
He is not the reason the Bears lost this game, not alone at least. If hes not good enough then your ire should be pointed at the Bears coaching and management and not Parkey who hit 3 of his 4 kicks and without whom the Bears would have been in much more difficulty.
I’d like to make it clear that I find any of those wishing and death on Parkey vile. My issues aren’t with Parkey as a person, it is more to do with the fact that statistically he is not good enough for the nfl.
It may seem to you like this is a knee jerk reaction, much like all those who jumped on Nicky Baileys back when he missed the penalty vs Swindon, however this is something myself and Bears fans have been arguing all season. Parkey isn’t good enough.
A kicker is a difficult job, I’m not arguing that, but not one that should be ultimately costing you 3 losses in a season.
Anyway, I’m defering to the Chiefs now, all aboard the Mahomes hype train.
I think you're being really harsh....Nicky Bailey would have made that field goal.
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He could have gone to the Browns this year but when the Eagles told him there was an offer he said he'd prefer to stay as the backup in Philly.
- Blocking team not doing their job properly - thus allowing someone to get a fingertip on it or otherwise block entirely.
- Bad snap (the guy who hikes the ball to start the play, if that needs any explaining). This could lead to the holder of the ball being compromised in getting a good angle or position, which massively affects elevation and direction, because pigskins are pretty volatile projectiles.
- Bad hold - the holder getting a good enough snap, but for his own reasons not getting the ball down properly for the kicker.
- Bad kick - self-explanatory. Elevation is something that teams scout for, and it's partly on coaching staff to rectify someone's technique if they angle it low.
I'm sure you've noticed just how the kick is cadenced and choreographed - same technique, literally every time, pretty much. If one tiny element goes wrong, it can have a significantly amplified effect.
Hope that helps.
You just knew after he made the kick before the Eagles called a time out that he wouldn’t make it second time round.
Any kicker in the NFL should be able to male a 43 yard field goal in good conditions comfortably. Sure, the D did well to even get the slightest of touches, but Parkey is just a liability and should never play Pro Football again.
Credit to the Chargers though and especially Melvin Ingram. What a game he had.
As for 43 yards being a near guarantee, I don't know how many games you have seen this year but that distance has been tricky for many kickers.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/kicking/sort/fieldGoalsMade40_49/seasontype/2
There were 294 attempts between 40 and 49 yards in the 2018 regular season. 224 were made. That is a 76.2% success rate. Far from a guarantee. Unfortunately I don't have the ability to check the conditions for those misses but I recall a Browns miss in the Superdome which I've just looked up at that was from 41 yards so these misses do happen even in perfect conditions, especially when the game is on the line.
Your buddy Parkey made all his kicks from shorter distances in this game, and he made the one before the miss (which was tipped and not a pure miss).
He is not the reason the Bears lost this game, not alone at least. If hes not good enough then your ire should be pointed at the Bears coaching and management and not Parkey who hit 3 of his 4 kicks and without whom the Bears would have been in much more difficulty.
Seriously though, he's working without a particularly good O-line and a pretty terrible bunch of receivers. If they improve those positions and Ravens trust him more they'll be in pretty great shape for next season.
Mahomes being Mahomes.
It's similar to everyone jumping on Southgate in '96... except if he was like the dedicated penalty taker, I dunno, doesn't quite work... imagine it was Shearer or something. Anyway, my point is that if you need to hit a 40+ field goal with seconds left, the rest of the team hasn't done it's job to win the game either (in Bear's case, it was down to the offence).
It may seem to you like this is a knee jerk reaction, much like all those who jumped on Nicky Baileys back when he missed the penalty vs Swindon, however this is something myself and Bears fans have been arguing all season. Parkey isn’t good enough.
A kicker is a difficult job, I’m not arguing that, but not one that should be ultimately costing you 3 losses in a season.
Anyway, I’m defering to the Chiefs now, all aboard the Mahomes hype train.