Charlton Scapegoat X1
Pope
Francis
Sarr
Llera
Fox
Sam
Kishishev
Hughes
McAuley
Leaburn
Lisbie
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I know who the manager will be.... lol etc.0
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That's a pretty good FC Scapegoat XI. I'd take that team over the current lot all day long.
Put Alan McCormack in midfield for (Brian?) Hughes.3 -
We need the strangely supported despite being shit XI too. Magennis a banker up top0
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Subs could also include -
Mark Stuart
Mark Aizlewood
Luke Varney
Barry Endean
Paul Davies
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That's a bit unfair on those who scored the winner against Man Ure and winner against Palarse.Pedro45 said:Subs could also include -
Mark Stuart
Mark Aizlewood
Luke Varney
Barry Endean
Paul Davies0 -
But isn't that the whole concept of scapegoat?AddicksAddict said:
That's a bit unfair on those who scored the winner against Man Ure and winner against Palarse.Pedro45 said:Subs could also include -
Mark Stuart
Mark Aizlewood
Luke Varney
Barry Endean
Paul Davies4 -
Both were scapegoats at the time though...0
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If the thread title was "they were generally shit but had their good moments" I'd go along with all but Pope and Kishishev but given the title as is, what are we actually blaming them for?LenGlover said:Not sure whether or not we've done this but off the top of my head:
Pope
Francis
Sarr
Llera
Fox
Sam
Kishishev
Hughes
McAuley
Leaburn
Lisbie0 -
It's a team of players off the top of my head who attracted the ire and venom of the Valley faithful through at least part of of their time at the Club whether justified or not.AddicksAddict said:
If the thread title was "they were generally shit but had their good moments" I'd go along with all but Pope and Kishishev but given the title as is, what are we actually blaming them for?LenGlover said:Not sure whether or not we've done this but off the top of my head:
Pope
Francis
Sarr
Llera
Fox
Sam
Kishishev
Hughes
McAuley
Leaburn
Lisbie
Kish was booed unmercifully at times despite never giving less than his all and Pope was not treated that well either during his short time in the first team at Charlton.
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Thuram
Francis Shaw Madden Fox
Kenning Dunphy O'Connell Redfearn
Abbot Plumb
Subs, Etheridge, Solly, Tumbridge, Shipperley, Stuart, Leaburn, Magennis3 -
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I can think of a few who suffered and might be in or around that 11: -
Peter Shaw
Gary Churchouse
Jonny Ostergaard
Gordon Riddick
Lawrie Madden
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Kish deserved the boos in my opinion. Although I never have booed any Charlton player.LenGlover said:
It's a team of players off the top of my head who attracted the ire and venom of the Valley faithful through at least part of of their time at the Club whether justified or not.AddicksAddict said:
If the thread title was "they were generally shit but had their good moments" I'd go along with all but Pope and Kishishev but given the title as is, what are we actually blaming them for?LenGlover said:Not sure whether or not we've done this but off the top of my head:
Pope
Francis
Sarr
Llera
Fox
Sam
Kishishev
Hughes
McAuley
Leaburn
Lisbie
Kish was booed unmercifully at times despite never giving less than his all and Pope was not treated that well either during his short time in the first team at Charlton.
Was like a headless chicken charging about. Usually chasing the ball he'd just lost.
Can't fault his effort or attitude though.0 -
We would be in The Prem now if it wasn't for the 2% protesting - FACT !!!
Damn each and every one of you.0 -
Thuram
Fox
Fox
Fox
Fox
Fox
Fox
Fox
Fox
Fox
Lisbie4 -
Certainly in his early days in the side, when he was played as a left winger, Mick "Flash" Flanagan, got a lot of stick. I know because I was one of them giving it - only to be told by my dad that I was an idiot because I couldn't recognise how good a player he was. I'm not saying he was right at the time but he was certainly proven correct once he switched to playing through the middle.1
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Thurman cannot be a scapegoat. He had no ability and was genuinely a cause of on the field problems and a symptom of our off the field problems. Many but not all of the others mentioned were certainly treated unfairly Ra Ra Radostin being a good example. Some of the comments about Francis looked OTT at the time and laughable now and he’s the one laughing1
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I remember Kim Grant being a scapegoat0
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Nicky Bailey
Our best player in the two season he had with us. Without his goals we would never have reached the playoffs, yet is only remembered for missing a penalty4 -
That ball is still floating down the Thames.killerandflash said:Nicky Bailey
Our best player in the two season he had with us. Without his goals we would never have reached the playoffs, yet is only remembered for missing a penalty3 -
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Can't believe that my all time favourite player (but disliked by many) Keith "crab" Jones.
He was blamed by so many people for his lack of forward passing but he was absolutely a vital link between the back and front lines.7 -
Anybody who disliked Keith Jones knows nothing about football.cafckev said:Can't believe that my all time favourite player (but disliked by many) Keith "crab" Jones.
He was blamed by so many people for his lack of forward passing but he was absolutely a vital link between the back and front lines.
Quality player. The Partnership he had with Kinsella was one of the best I’ve seen at Charlton. At least 7/10 every single week. You can count the amount of bad games he had on the fingers (particularly if you come from Norwich) of one hand during his Charlton career.
What I wouldn’t give for a Keith Jones type player now over the current dross.9 -
Kish absolutely didn't deserve the boos. It used to really infuriate me how little some fans understood about football - he was a key part of the team. What we would give for a Kish now!
Keith Jones was a terrific player too.9 -
A large part of that 1-0 win over Liverpool the first season in the Premiership was because of the shackle Jones put on McManaman.cafckev said:Can't believe that my all time favourite player (but disliked by many) Keith "crab" Jones.
He was blamed by so many people for his lack of forward passing but he was absolutely a vital link between the back and front lines.0 -
Scored the winner as well.AddicksAddict said:
A large part of that 1-0 win over Liverpool the first season in the Premiership was because of the shackle Jones put on McManaman.cafckev said:Can't believe that my all time favourite player (but disliked by many) Keith "crab" Jones.
He was blamed by so many people for his lack of forward passing but he was absolutely a vital link between the back and front lines.0 -
David Mooney. Darren Ambrose?1
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Ambrose1
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Shouldn't it be XI?2
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Church - although ‘scapegoat’ implies that he wasn’t totally shit0
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Martin Pringle
David Campbell (NI midfielder)
Dennis Rommedahl0
