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Lloyd Sam

Is it payback time tonight from one of our ex-players who always seemed to get a fair amount of stick when he played for us. Always liked him as a player but seemed to be in a minority.

My nightmare is him knocking in a scrappy winner via a deflection in the 93rd minute.
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  • Christ forgot he'd signed for them...

    He came on in the 88th min for his first Wimbledon appearance against Scunthorpe

    Be good if he were to come on when we're winning 3-0 but not if its 0-0
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    The only decent attacking player in a pretty poor team playing bad football. Didn’t help our game plan was “either hoof it to burton or just give it to Sam”. So teams quickly worked it out and isolated him.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,158
    Decent player for us in a bad period as well as an academy boy. Deserves a good reception.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,739
    Did not realise he played for us 119 times (if wiki is correct). Always liked him
  • Liked him. Lots of skill but no football brain imho
  • Liked him. Lots of skill but no football brain imho

    This. He used to drive me potty. He would beat a man, using tricky feet. He would then go back, and beat the same man again. Then go back a third time, and lose it...
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,800
    edited April 2018

    The only decent attacking player in a pretty poor team playing bad football. Didn’t help our game plan was “either hoof it to burton or just give it to Sam”. So teams quickly worked it out and isolated him.

    Sounds like the football under Robinson, just replace Burton for Magennis and Sam for Holmes.
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,111

    Did not realise he played for us 119 times (if wiki is correct). Always liked him

    132 according to transfermarkt

    http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/lloyd-sam/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/12131/verein/358
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,003

    Liked him. Lots of skill but no football brain imho

    Yes, his decision making wasn't the best. He did have talent though, you'd have hoped (though not for tonight obviously) that his decision making would improve with experience
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    If he starts then there is no way he will make it to the 93rd minute. I always referred to him as 60 minute Sam as that was when he always got pulled

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  • He did love a stepover.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Decent player in a poor team. Can't see him being too effective these days (cue a late winner)
  • pettgra
    pettgra Posts: 1,574
    Liked him, but he was frustrating. If he starts ghosting past our FB I will have the hump; because he never did that while he was here!
    It was more like give and go.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,850
    never rated him

    cue him getting the winner
  • pettgra
    pettgra Posts: 1,574

    never rated him

    cue him getting the winner

    Or Joe Pigott.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,372
    H matured as a footballer during his time in the states, reckon he'll be a decent signing for them
  • I always thought he had a limited ‘ football brain”. He beat people did not know what to do next. Defenders got time to get back, he beat them again but no end product.
  • Man_About_Town
    Man_About_Town Posts: 997
    edited April 2018
    more Games than Yann.....
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,962
    sam3110 said:

    H matured as a footballer during his time in the states, reckon he'll be a decent signing for them

    That's right. Time has moved on and he's gained a lot of experience at a decent level.
    People are remembering his time with us and judging him accordingly.

    At 33 he might not be quite so quick, but he might be a better footballer.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,445
    Llera..........................................................every other player on the pitch...........................................................Lloyd Sam

    That same tactic worked so many times!

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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,445
    Oggy Red said:

    sam3110 said:

    H matured as a footballer during his time in the states, reckon he'll be a decent signing for them

    That's right. Time has moved on and he's gained a lot of experience at a decent level.
    People are remembering his time with us and judging him accordingly.

    At 33 he might not be quite so quick, but he might be a better footballer.
    No.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,962
    Dazzler21 said:

    Oggy Red said:

    sam3110 said:

    H matured as a footballer during his time in the states, reckon he'll be a decent signing for them

    That's right. Time has moved on and he's gained a lot of experience at a decent level.
    People are remembering his time with us and judging him accordingly.

    At 33 he might not be quite so quick, but he might be a better footballer.
    No.
    You know that for sure, do you Dazzler? :smile:


  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,445
    :lol: If Parkinson thought that the SPL was equivalent to League 1... I'd expect him to say the MLS is probably about the same.

    Having watched a few MLS games I'd say it's like a less rough league 1 or 2, where players are given plenty of space.
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,149
    Yikes, if asked I would have said he probably played about 30-times, can’t believe it was 100+
    So much of those years I’ve just blotted out....
  • Didn't he play under Les Reed in the prem or am I making that up?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,158

    I always thought he had a limited ‘ football brain”. He beat people did not know what to do next. Defenders got time to get back, he beat them again but no end product.

    True but you could probably say that about most wingers.
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,111

    Didn't he play under Les Reed in the prem or am I making that up?

    4 league games under Reed.
    Also played in the Wycombe cup game
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,471
    I heard BWP say something interesting about MLS the other week. He said NYRB was the first time he was actually coached at a club since leaving City. He claimed that in England the focus was always on promotion - getting out of the league you’re in, or avoiding relegation. Yet in MLS they spend more time on individual coaching and he believed it was the coaching he received at NYRB that made him so successful there.
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,471
    edited April 2018
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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,445
    Because BWP went to play in a league where he had more time and was the key focus of the NYRB's attack.

    They may have focused on coaching him but it was also a bit like Renford Rejects - Get the ball to the italians...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g6JaJUUTR0