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England Cricket - Summer of 2018

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  • MrOneLung said:

    When is the squad announced?

    Asking for a friend...

    England squad is announced tomorrow. We're going to Day 1, next Thursday.
    Actually I think the England squad is announced at 3pm this afternoon.
  • I think Vince has booked his place in the team with his unbeaten double century
  • I think Vince has booked his place in the team with his unbeaten double century

    I agree. Annoyingly. One swallow and all that.
  • I think Vince has booked his place in the team with his unbeaten double century

    I agree. Annoyingly. One swallow and all that.
    Yeah he's not good enough, although at this moment I can't see a case for too many others.
  • My son is 8 and has just started cricket. His last school didn’t playa bus while we have watched some games on Sky, his mates who don’t go to private school don’t get the game at all.

    If we go down the park or out camping with a cricket set, his age group look pretty blank. It’s a disgrace and can only be resolved I think by making as many games as possible free to air.

    If the ECB can get their silly sounding structure on the tv for free, I’m with that. If they don’t, it’s rubbish.
  • edited May 2018
    http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/23509854/jos-buttler-dom-bess-set-england-calls-james-vince-faces-axe

    Jos Buttler, Dom Bess set for England calls; James Vince faces axe

    8:58 AM CT
    George Dobell
    Jos Buttler has earned a surprise recall to England's Test team at the expense of James Vince, while the Somerset spinner, Dominic Bess, was the beneficiary of his team-mate Jack Leach's misfortune, as the new national selector, Ed Smith, unveiled his squad for next week's first Test against Pakistan.

    Buttler, who has not played red-ball cricket for England since the tour of India in November and December 2016, has found a rich vein of form for Rajasthan Royals in the IPL this month, with a tournament-record five consecutive half-centuries, including unbeaten scores of 95 and 94 in his last two innings.

    "Jos Buttler is an outstanding talent, who is already a central part of England's white-ball teams," Smith said. "The selection panel feels that this is the perfect moment to reintroduce Jos to Test cricket, where he has already enjoyed some success, including a stint playing as a specialist batsman at number seven. Jos is playing with great confidence and flair, and he will bring unique qualities to the Test team."

    He will return to the middle order, with Jonny Bairstow retaining the wicketkeeper's role, meaning Vince is fall guy after a winter of false dawns, in spite of a timely Championship double-century for Hampshire against Somerset on Monday.

    Vince, who was recalled to the Test squad for the Ashes, in spite of a mediocre start to his career against Sri Lanka and Pakistan in 2016, made an attractive 83 in his first Test innings of the winter, at Brisbane in November, and signed off with 76 against New Zealand at Christchurch last month. However, in between whiles, he made just one more score of fifty in nine innings, with a propensity to get himself out when well set costing him dear.

    Bess, meanwhile, has leapfrogged to the front of England's spinning options, in the wake of a cruel injury for Leach in the nets at Taunton next week. A fractured left thumb means he will be out of action for both Pakistan Tests, and so will be unable to back up the promise he showed on Test debut in Christchurch last month. Moeen Ali was dropped for the final Test in New Zealand and has played no red-ball cricket since due to his spell at the IPL.

    "Dom Bess has made an excellent start to his first-class career," Smith said. "He has impressed everyone with his performances for Somerset and when he has been given opportunities with England representative teams. With Jack Leach missing out due to injury, the selection panel wanted to invest opportunity in a young spin bowler. Dom's strong form, character and all-round abilities presented a compelling case for selection.

    Chris Woakes and Mark Wood, who was recalled in Christchurch, will compete for the final fast-bowling spot while Mark Stoneman has retained his place at the top of the order despite a lean start to the season. He had faced pressure from an in-form Nick Gubbins.
  • 12 man squad announced:

    Anderson
    Bairstow
    Bess
    Broad
    Buttler
    Cook
    Malan
    Root
    Stokes
    Stoneman
    Woakes
    Wood
  • England squad for first Test v Pakistan

    Joe Root (capt), Jimmy Anderson, Jonny Bairstow, Dom Bess, Stuart Broad, Jos Buttler, Alastair Cook, Dawid Malan, Ben Stokes, Mark Stoneman, Chris Woakes, Mark Wood
  • Cook
    Stoneman
    Root
    Malan
    Bairstow
    Stokes
    Buttler
    Woakes
    Broad
    Anderson
    Bess
    12th: Wood

    That's my guess.
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  • edited May 2018
    Wasn't expecting Bess to be called up. He's promising, but at 20 is surely far too young and inexperienced, especially in something like spin bowling, where bowlers can be targeted
  • I still think Root will bat 4, Malan at 3 and Bairstow 5 is my guess, but could be the other way round.
  • Buttler and Wood are even crazier calls than Bess I reckon
  • Cook
    Stoneman
    Root
    Malan
    Bairstow
    Stokes
    Buttler
    Woakes
    Broad
    Anderson
    Bess
    12th: Wood

    That's my guess.

    Agreed but I think that Bess with a First Class batting average of 25 and having scored 92 in his last match would be somewhat insulted to see Jimmy (average less than 10) above him in the order.
  • Buttler has just hit 28 in one over
  • Leuth said:

    Buttler and Wood are even crazier calls than Bess I reckon

    Very surprised they dropped Vince after his double century. Don't think Buttler is a test match batsman and would have preferred someone like Clarke or Lawrence given a shot about him.
  • My son is 8 and has just started cricket. His last school didn’t playa bus while we have watched some games on Sky, his mates who don’t go to private school don’t get the game at all.

    If we go down the park or out camping with a cricket set, his age group look pretty blank. It’s a disgrace and can only be resolved I think by making as many games as possible free to air.

    If the ECB can get their silly sounding structure on the tv for free, I’m with that. If they don’t, it’s rubbish.

    Neil, I can promise you, if your son shows any skill in cricket then he will love it. There are plenty of local clubs with junior sections - Blackheath at Recory Field I would expect would be one - maybe someone can confirm, or there's always clubs like Bexley or Sidcup. Its a fantastic sport, and something he will take forward with him.
    Next thing , you will be taking him to Lords and Oval.
  • Ireland succumb to Pakistan in a five-wicket loss. Couldn't be prouder though - that was a great contest, and hopefully there will be plenty of successes to come (especially once the further funding to grassroots and youth cricket pays dividends).

    As for the England squad though - Bess is an interesting call, and I'm intrigued as to the decision to play Bairstow as a specialist batsman when he averages several runs more when also keeping. If I wanted a keeper I'd have Foakes rather than Buttler - but Jos is currently proving me wrong in the IPL...
  • Would expect Stokes will bat at 5. Bairstow will bat at 7 if keeping, Buttler at 6.
    Wood maybe instead of Woakes.
  • Buttler has just hit 28 in one over

    Incredible
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  • PaddyP17 said:

    Ireland succumb to Pakistan in a five-wicket loss. Couldn't be prouder though - that was a great contest, and hopefully there will be plenty of successes to come (especially once the further funding to grassroots and youth cricket pays dividends).

    As for the England squad though - Bess is an interesting call, and I'm intrigued as to the decision to play Bairstow as a specialist batsman when he averages several runs more when also keeping. If I wanted a keeper I'd have Foakes rather than Buttler - but Jos is currently proving me wrong in the IPL...

    Two years ago Seb's Kent age group played Munster - and lost. It really took our lot my surprise because they were very good. Got talking to one of the dads of the Irish players and it turns out that he was a sports commentator by the name of Tector and that, in addition to his son playing in that game, he had two others - one at Glamorgan and the other at Somerset I believe. Then last year we played N. Ireland and they were worse than a lot of Club colts sides!

  • Would expect Stokes will bat at 5. Bairstow will bat at 7 if keeping, Buttler at 6.
    Wood maybe instead of Woakes.

    I would be very surprised if Buttler bats above Bairstow.
  • Buttler is barely a FC cricketer these days but Wood is the really insane call. I guess they're desperate for a different sort of quick bowler
  • Butler is a stupid call. T20 form means nothing in tests. Pointless selection.

    Should have been Foakes to keep and Bairstow moving up the order.

    Still England's loss is Surrey's gain. They have picked our worst performing batsman and ignored the 4 we have in the top 6 England qualified runscorers this year. If Rocky doesn't find form and whoever comes in for him does then he could find himself in a position where he is dripped by England only to carry the drinks for Surrey.

    Only other surprise is Bess. Don't know much about him tbh.
  • Would expect Stokes will bat at 5. Bairstow will bat at 7 if keeping, Buttler at 6.
    Wood maybe instead of Woakes.

    I would be very surprised if Buttler bats above Bairstow.
    If Buttler has been brought in as a specialist batter then there is no other logical reason. They wont bring him in as a batter and then bat him at 7.
    Now, if they have brought him back as keeper then I agree at 7 , and maybe Bairstow at 4.
  • Like Canters, I know nothing about Bess - lets hope its not another young player they bring in only for his confidence to be destroyed.
  • Don't get the negativity about Wood - he's the only real 'quick' we have. Would certainly rather have him bowling instead of Woakes.
  • My son is 8 and has just started cricket. His last school didn’t playa bus while we have watched some games on Sky, his mates who don’t go to private school don’t get the game at all.

    If we go down the park or out camping with a cricket set, his age group look pretty blank. It’s a disgrace and can only be resolved I think by making as many games as possible free to air.

    If the ECB can get their silly sounding structure on the tv for free, I’m with that. If they don’t, it’s rubbish.

    Hi Neil

    your son maybe a bit on the young side to get involved in competitive colts club games but id expect hed be warmly welcomed by local clubs with a colts set up for training and coaching ..i know all of the major cricket clubs in our area maybe inbox me and let me know where you live ...i ll be able to recommend the best local club and give e-mail addresses etc
  • Would expect Stokes will bat at 5. Bairstow will bat at 7 if keeping, Buttler at 6.
    Wood maybe instead of Woakes.

    I would be very surprised if Buttler bats above Bairstow.
    If Buttler has been brought in as a specialist batter then there is no other logical reason. They wont bring him in as a batter and then bat him at 7.
    Now, if they have brought him back as keeper then I agree at 7 , and maybe Bairstow at 4.
    I agree, but this is England.

    I also think he will keep wicket, and having Bairstow at 7 is a waste
  • Would expect Stokes will bat at 5. Bairstow will bat at 7 if keeping, Buttler at 6.
    Wood maybe instead of Woakes.

    I would be very surprised if Buttler bats above Bairstow.
    If Buttler has been brought in as a specialist batter then there is no other logical reason. They wont bring him in as a batter and then bat him at 7.
    Now, if they have brought him back as keeper then I agree at 7 , and maybe Bairstow at 4.
    I agree, but this is England.

    I also think he will keep wicket, and having Bairstow at 7 is a waste
    If Buttler keeps, then I would expect Bairstow to be in top 5. Maybe Malan at 3, Root 4.
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